The Rock is now bigger than Hulk Hoegan ever was!

[Waterproof]

Some of you dumb nikkas claiming Hoegan need to realize were not just talking about fukking wrestling

Rock N Wrestling Cartoons, Hosting Saturday Night Live, Co Starred with the one biggest 80 Pop Culture Icon Dolly Parton and Cyndi Lauper video's, was with Mr. T another Pop Culture Icon was in The A Team a hit show, was on MTV with the Rock N Wrestling, had a video called Pile Driver that got played on MTV, Hulk was up there with Captain America, Superman as an American Hero, Cereal, Ice Cream, Lunchpale's ect, ect

 

[mrken12]

Brendan Frasier and Brian Gewirtz stayed blessing Rocky.

You don't even believe that. Cut it out.

 

[James Dean]

Looking at this again.

Some of y'all in here bugging to the max. Hogan had a lot of wrestling star power in an era where more people tuned in. This works in his favor. Add that to the fact that he was able to cross over from wrestling. He just didn't have the Hollywood success.

Rock had a lot of wrestling star power in an era where people tuned in but not as much as Hogans prime. So Hogan wins here. However He too was able to crossover. Also His gain over Hogan is the Hollywood success and it's a big gain.

So overall if you take Wrestling, crossover appeal and Hollywood it's gonna balance itself out and just come down to what YOU think is the criteria. Is it wrestling? Mainstream success? Popularity? Its way too many factors

 

[MrWestGrand]

Looking at this again.

Some of y'all in here bugging to the max. Hogan had a lot of wrestling star power in an era where more people tuned in. This works in his favor. Add that to the fact that he was able to cross over from wrestling. He just didn't have the Hollywood success.

Rock had a lot of wrestling star power in an era where people tuned in but not as much as Hogans prime. So Hogan wins here. However He too was able to crossover. Also His gain over Hogan is the Hollywood success and it's a big gain.

So overall if you take Wrestling, crossover appeal and Hollywood it's gonna balance itself out and just come down to what YOU think is the criteria. Is it wrestling? Mainstream success? Popularity? Its way too many factors

I look at it like this, with Hogan as the marquee he helped get Vince to PPV. With Rock as the marquee, he helped Vince get to NYSE. If Rock doesn't develop, it's hard seeing WWE reach the business successes it's accomplished without him. Just being real.

 

[Waterproof]

Looking at this again.

Some of y'all in here bugging to the max. Hogan had a lot of wrestling star power in an era where more people tuned in. This works in his favor. Add that to the fact that he was able to cross over from wrestling. He just didn't have the Hollywood success.

Rock had a lot of wrestling star power in an era where people tuned in but not as much as Hogans prime. So Hogan wins here. However He too was able to crossover. Also His gain over Hogan is the Hollywood success and it's a big gain.

So overall if you take Wrestling, crossover appeal and Hollywood it's gonna balance itself out and just come down to what YOU think is the criteria. Is it wrestling? Mainstream success? Popularity? Its way too many factors

Not true "the Attitude Era was a surge in the popularity of professional wrestling in the United States as television ratings and pay-per-view buy-rates saw record highs"

Just admit it, The Rock is not touching Hulkamania

 

[R=G]

Dont sleep on scorpion king

2002 though

 

[James Dean]

Not true "the Attitude Era was a surge in the popularity of professional wrestling in the United States as television ratings and pay-per-view buy-rates saw record highs"

Just admit it, The Rock is not touching Hulkamania

It is true. More people were watching and invested during Hogans time. Hence the 33 mil. You keep boasting about. The Attitude era was the surge to the business after the lackluster few years before it

I don't need to admit anything. Its not an easy debate no matter how much you are in here trying to say so. Like I said, If you judge from just a wrestling viewpoint yeah you can argue Hogan but looking overall it is a legitimate debate.

 

[R=G]

Not true "the Attitude Era was a surge in the popularity of professional wrestling in the United States as television ratings and pay-per-view buy-rates saw record highs"

Just admit it, The Rock is not touching Hulkamania

Lol..the Attitude Era made Vince a billionaire. Nuff said.

 

[Homeboy Runny-Ray]

From a wrestling standpoint Rock wasn't even bigger than Austin.


From an overall entertainment industry standpoint no one is and probably ever will touch The Rock.

nah.

as buddy said earlier, Austin being greater than the rock is just WWE narrative.

@R=G

""If you ask anyone who was in WWE witj access to all the numbers, from Vince on down, from both eras, and ask who was the biggest draw, everyone will reply Austin and without hesitation, because he sold more tickets, sold more merch, and sold more PPVs. Granted, there are huge differences in eras that mitigate those things, but...Austin beat Hogan in every financial category comparing peaks. Hogan did headline more successful shows because of far greater longevity. At his peak, Austin was bigger. For longevity, Hogan was."

- Meltzer

Love him or hate him I will take his word over yours any day. Rock was not in the same conversation.

As to RIGHT NOW, no shyt Rock is more famous. This is his hollywood prime. He is the biggest star in the world. What I was referring to is the fact that if you show 10 million people pictures of the rock and hulk Hogan, more will recognize Hogan. Not even a question.

Both are obviously popular. But Hulks peak and impact is bigger than Rocks.

Maybe that changes but as of now I simply disagree.

numbers are misleading, as you pretty much acknowledged in the bolded.

Austin just capitalized off the outlets that Hogan built in the WWF.
and he capitalized off the boom period that Hogan started in WCW. the attitude era piggy-backed off of that.

Austin never led any charge or built anything.

 

[R=G]

the rock BEEN bigger than Hogan.

but he didn't bring wrestling with him.

Hogan took wrestling to new heights twice.
the rock is a big-time actor that wrestles.....or wrestles part-time.....or used to wrestle?? people aren't sure cuz the rock didn't convert them into wrestling fans.

so yea, the rock is by far the bigger star.
but as a star wrestler to the general public that doesn't even watch wrestling, hulk Hogan is still the more synonymous name with the sport.





I didn't know "no holds barred" flopped.

Flopped big...which already entails u don't have a clue of the era and actuality of Hogan's worth. Rock is bigger than Austin too..it was Rock vs Hogan..Rock vs Lesnar was the goal with Austin being the lead in...it was Rock vs Goldberg. Basically the Rock kicked Austin out of the top spot. He returns for Summerslam 01 and his WCW title match main events..not Austin/Angle. He returns and it's his rematch with Hogan over the Austin return at No Way Out. Stop the silly perception that Austin was #1. Austin started as #1 and was never #1 again after the Rock broke records in 2000.

 

[R=G]

This is a ridiculous thread. Hogan is nowhere near the star Rock has been over the last 10 years. Neither is Austin. Neither is the WWE company.

 

[Waterproof]

It is true. More people were watching and invested during Hogans time. Hence the 33 mil. You keep boasting about. The Attitude era was the surge to the business after the lackluster few years before it

I don't need to admit anything. Its not an easy debate no matter how much you are in here trying to say so. Like I said, If you judge from just a wrestling viewpoint yeah you can argue Hogan but looking overall it is a legitimate debate.

Bruh the 33 Million viewers is because of the phenomena of Hulkamania. WWWF/WWF, NWA, AWA, Mid Atlantic, Stampede, CWF was still in the territory era and wrestling was still territorial with die hard fans deeply emotionally attached to their part of the wrestling map. Those numbers was unheard of.

It was because of Hulk Hogan crossing over and the hype and excitement and this phenomenon called Hulkamania that was running wild that drew 33 Million viewers it was wrestling fan's and non wrestling fan's that wanted to see this Man who taking the country by storm because that's how Popular Hogan was

 

[Heelish]

You don't even believe that. Cut it out.

 

[Waterproof]

This is a ridiculous thread. Hogan is nowhere near the star Rock has been over the last 10 years. Neither is Austin. Neither is the WWE company.

Did you read the title, We not talking about the last 10 year's.

The Rock is now bigger than Hulk Hoegan ever was!

That's what we discussing

And Rock is nowhere the level, until 33 Million sit they Asses down and see him wrestle then we can talk.

It took rock 10 years to get this huge when Hulk ruled from 83-88

 

[MrFirst2doit]

Hogan practically used as American branding for the world...MJ, Prince, Madonna, Tyson, Hogan, Freddy Kreuger, Oprah etc...these people were the epitome of American pop culture...were you around in the 80s?

Yeah I was and yes, Hogan was a house hold name and a big star... putting him in the same category as Michael Jackson is laughable.... he was probably as big as the the noid, balki from perfect strangers and max headroom.... no way was he near mj or anybody like that