The removal of "under god" from the pledge is being debated in Massachusetts supreme court!

Should they remove "under god" from the pledge?

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    Votes: 27 62.8%
  • No

    Votes: 15 34.9%
  • I do not know

    Votes: 1 2.3%

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Pledge of Allegiance challenged in Massachusetts Supreme Court
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A new U.S. citizen recites the pledge of allegiance at a naturalization ceremony on May 17, 2013 in New York City.

By Sophia Rosenbaum, NBC News
A family in suburban Boston hopes to change the phrasing of the Pledge of Allegiance to remove two words they claim violate students' rights.

The family is challenging the pledge, which students recite daily in U.S. public schools, claiming the words "under God" violate the state's equal rights laws.

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The plaintiffs, who have requested anonymity through their lawyers, are taking an unconventional approach to challenging the pledge. Past cases argued the words “under God” violated the Constitution’s separation of church and state.

Congress added “under God” to the pledge in 1954.

This case, however, makes a different argument.

David Niose, former president of the American Humanist Association, and the plaintiffs' representative, opened his arguments Wednesday saying the pledge’s use of “under God” violates the Equal Rights Amendment of the Massachusetts Constitution and is an issue of discrimination.

Niose said the pledge’s repetitiveness in the public school system is indoctrinating and alienating to atheists.

“It validates believers as good patriots and it invalidates atheists as non-believers at best and unpatriotic at worst,” he said.

Eric Rassbach, deputy general counsel for the Becket Fund for Religious Liberty, intervened on behalf of a family in the Acton-Boxborough Regional School District, the defendant in the case, who would like to have their child continue reciting the pledge as it is presently written.

“Most people do not view reciting the Pledge of Allegiance as saying a prayer,” Rassbach said. “It would be terrible to enshrine in the law this kind of allergy to God that the plaintiffs have.”

Rassbach added that it has been illegal to force someone recite the pledge since 1943. The landmark U.S. Supreme Court case West Virginia State Board of Education v. Barnette ruled that students could not be forced to salute the American flag or say the pledge in school. It was considered a huge victory for Jehovah’s Witnesses, who cannot salute or pledge to symbols, according to their religious beliefs.

Both Noise and Rassbach said a decision will likely come within six months. Since this case is an appeal, there is no testimony and the panel of seven Massachusetts Supreme Judicial Court judges will decide the case based on court briefs.

Rassbach is worried that if the state Supreme Court rules in favor of the plaintiffs, the case would spur copycat lawsuits in other states with similar equal rights’ laws.

“If they succeed in their goals here,” he said, “they will attempt to replicate it elsewhere.”


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BTW, this is how the pledge was recited BEFORE 1954 (communist scare)

 

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I wish I led a life that allowed me to waste time with such bullshyt that this particular family is worried about.
 

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fck ngga it's too much real sht going on right now than to be concerned about the verbiage from the pledge of allegiance...entire cities is going bankrupt right now...nobody gives a sht about this....we get it you hate God...but guess what nobody cares...

I love how people always complain that "theres too much real shyt" going on when it doesn't pertain to them.
 

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I wish I led a life that allowed me to waste time with such bullshyt that this particular family is worried about.

Let me get this straight.

So living in a country where the rule of law is ALL we have, doesn't mean we shouldn't try to make a more perfect union by removing little details like this?

LEST YOU ALL FORGET, THE STATE OF MISSISSIPPI DID NOT OFFICIALLY RATIFY THE 13TH AMENDMENT UNTIL...2013. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/18/mississippi-13th-amendment_n_2712289.html

Yeah. This shyt matters :beli:
 

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Let me get this straight.

So living in a country where the rule of law is ALL we have, doesn't mean we shouldn't try to make a more perfect union by removing little details like this?

LEST YOU ALL FORGET, THE STATE OF MISSISSIPPI DID NOT OFFICIALLY RATIFY THE 13TH AMENDMENT UNTIL...2013. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/18/mississippi-13th-amendment_n_2712289.html

Yeah. This shyt matters :beli:

I'm glad that this was done and someone took the initiative to get that taken care of.

I could give two fukks about religion and am the furthest thing from a Churchy Joe, but I just don't see how people can get so bent out of shape over something like this. I'd rather be out enjoying life, but if this is what that family calls enjoyment, they can have it.
 
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