The real reason Rocafella broke up is because Hov didn't want Biggs around- Dame Dash

[CoryMack]

nikka Dame said I can't rattle Hov, so let me try to sow some disagreements amongst the brehs lmao, never thought dude would embody going out sad

on the low attempting to sow discord among brethren

 

[Ethnic Cleansing]

I always like the old Death Row interviews, and even Bad Boy and No Limit,

for some reason, im sick of the Roc A Fella stories

That’s because No one talks candidly besides Dame, and to a degree, Oschino’s hating ass.. Jay Gives up nothing, Biggs never talked when they were on top off the world. State Property (except Oschino & Sparks) stay tight lipped and speak cryptically not trying to spoil that every 3 year concert money Jay throws them.

Whenever Jay signs Bleeks permission slip, he might hit Drink Champs or somewhere and drop a couple jabs, but for the most part everyone stays quiet about the situation and we’re stuck with Dame projecting everywhere and sounding bitter

 

[Ozymandeas]

That is an awkward situation for Biggs. From a partner to a worker.

 

[ReasonableMatic]

When did Jay associate himself with OG Juan and his wife?

Im asking cuz i believe that was another real reason they broke up (after the snitch rumors and reports). Dame has hinted at it for yrs but oddly nobody have noticed

I used to cop in Harlem.. hola, my Dominicanos
Right there up on Broadway, brought me back to that McDonald's
Took it to my stash spot, 560 State Street..

- Jay-Z (Empire State Of Mind)

GOAT #HovBarForEverything

 

[Secure Da Bag]

Dame didn’t know how to move in a room full of vultures.

He ain't as cunning and calculating as Jay and other music execs.

This part is true. He wears his heart on his sleeve. Applies the wrong parts of street code to business.

Maybe Jay didn't fukk wit Biggs. But clearly didn't fukk wit Dame either.

 

[zayk35]

I think They’ve been apart longer than they were together at this point

Just Move on already and launch a new failed company

Yep, when you really step back and look they met in 94, broke up in 04, and now it's 2024. For the last 30 yrs they were only associated for 10 of those yrs. Jay-z been doing big business for the last 20 yrs without Dame. While Dame teeth are randomly just falling out on camera today.

 

[Brehcepticon]

Dame going back to this dried up well?

 

[Mac Ten]

Dame has been acting like a chatty patty…


Dude is trying to kick someone while they’re down like his House in Harlem is clean.


Imagine if Dame had kept his issues with Jay in house and took responsibility for his role in the breakup, he’d be in a better position now.


If this was the mafia, Dame would have been killed ages ago.


Dude is out here airing out dirty laundry

 

[Ziggiy]

Jay been having Juan around him. Juan was his connect in the streets also.

He was around Jay as far back as 2000 in rap shyt. He was talking on Jay mixtapes in 01-02 ect.

Nobody knew about his wife snitching on some king pins in the 80s or 90s until like 2008 to later when The NY Times ran a article on here pretty much which was smear cause she was challenging the establishment

Nobody still knows who she told on tho, but it was kingpin level traffickers tho.

Damn started using that as an excuse years later, he used Jay working with r Kelly also as one.

The real reason is Jay severed the relationship after dame was moving disrespectful and erratic shytting on bleek, using company money for his own businesses and used jay to blow up armadal liquor but it wasn’t a roc thing and it was a dame thing and paid no money to Jay. Making cam a leader of the roc ect.

Jay ended up killing the relationship and came to dame and Biggs and asked to be brought out and they could keep everything but he wanted reasonable doubt.

Dame said no

So Jay who def jam owed millions on millions of back money made a deal with Jay to let him be the president of roc, get all his masters back and everything cause if he was to cash the checks(it was said he didn’t cash any checks from like 98 royalty wise) it would have damn best bankrupt the company.

So no, dame didn’t end the relationship, jay did and dame was salty and pissed bout it for years on years, getting dips to diss Jay constantly.

God DAMN Jay is a great businessman. I know all of this is public knowledge but just reading it in real time how he finessed Def Jam and leveraged that Presidential role into something greater down the line with Roc Nation is genius level foresight. Most people would’ve taken the money owed.

 

[chunky_mcdaniels]

And they werent cool for awhile

Not only that, Biggs took Dame's side regarding the Roc fallout. Then after he got knocked for selling weed, went broke, he crawled back to Jay trying to get on, any which possible. aka He sold his soul, and got used like a pawn.

That's what Dame means when he says he'd be embarrassed if he was Biggs. Very un-Harlem like.

 

[IAMDetroit]

Im asking cuz i believe that was another real reason they broke up (after the snitch rumors and reports).

Desi Perez

 

[Ineedmoney504]

Not only that, Biggs took Dame's side regarding the Roc fallout. Then after he got knocked for selling weed, went broke, he crawled back to Jay trying to get on, any which possible. aka He sold his soul, and got used like a pawn.

That's what Dame means when he says he'd be embarrassed if he was Biggs. Very un-Harlem like.

I don’t think Biggs crawled to Jay.

You never heard Biggs publicly outside shytting in jay. Yea dame was his mans, so obviously he gonna take his side.

Hip hop who is Biggs brother was still around Jay during the fallout also.

Biggs came out of jail with nothing and probably had some bad dealings with dame and Jay looked out for him.

Jay has also looked out for dame over the years also. We seen them in a room together and dame looked the happiest he have looked in decades. But I don’t think Jay ever wants him around him much fr. So I’m sure Jay just ignored him afterwards.

 

[chunky_mcdaniels]

Biggs came out of jail with nothing and probably had some bad dealings with dame and Jay looked out for him.

Jay has also looked out for dame over the years also. We seen them in a room together and dame looked the happiest he have looked in decades. But I don’t think Jay ever wants him around him much fr. So I’m sure Jay just ignored him afterwards.

Literally none of what you wrote here is true....at all. Why would you make this up? I dont understand? What's the motivation to make stuff like this up?

 

[Ineedmoney504]

Literally none of what you wrote here is true....at all. Why would you make this up? I dont understand? What's the motivation to make stuff like this up?

Dame was in interviews talking bout how nobody looks out for Biggs, after bog had got sent to jail on being the head of a weed selling ring.

Dame was using his name to diss tons of people like ye ect

So as he came home he didn’t fukk with dame at all. And went to work with jay immediately.

I don’t believe he just came home and disowned dame for no reason. I’m sure they had had some kinda falling out.

We seen dame bring his kids to a jay concert and he in pictures with the biggest smile, and after that nothing more and he went right back to dissing him, while Jay don’t mention him.

So what’s the incorrect part.

 

[chunky_mcdaniels]

Dame was in interviews talking bout how nobody looks out for Biggs, after bog had got sent to jail on being the head of a weed selling ring.

Dame was using his name to diss tons of people like ye ect

So as he came home he didn’t fukk with dame at all. And went to work with jay immediately.

I don’t believe he just came home and disowned dame for no reason. I’m sure they had had some kinda falling out.

We seen dame bring his kids to a jay concert and he in pictures with the biggest smile, and after that nothing more and he went right back to dissing him, while Jay don’t mention him.

So what’s the incorrect part.

None of what Biggs grovelling to Jay when he got out is about Dame, it’s about him as a man, and his self value. Dame and Biggs got jerked by Jay when he split from them, took the brand name, and played them for Roc-a-wear, whether or not it was their fault is for another discussion.

But that is Dame’s point here regarding Biggs.

Dame didn’t say anything about Jay for the longest, he tried to play it cool, but in the end his ego and self pride got the better of him and started talking reckless. He started feeling himself too much when Kanye broke him off a big cheque 4-5 years ago. Now he is in no man’s land.