The real reason Rocafella broke up is because Hov didn't want Biggs around- Dame Dash

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nikka changes the story every year :wow:


its timestamped, he shyts on Biggs and says he'd be embarrassed if he was Biggs right now :wow:




but Jay is still boys with Biggs tho:mjlol: , one of his closest friends. Whats Dame talking about?

NAH HE TOLD THIS STORY
YEARS AGO AFTER BIGGS PLAYED HIM
AT SOME FUNCTION

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Dame giving y'all the real story

There were rumors back then all the Roc signings post 2001 was all Dame & Jigga didn't want none of them on the label

Jigga wouldn't be where he is without a push from Dame (marketing) and Biggs (funding)

Dame pushed Kanye, not Jigga

I believe Biggs EP'd the Young Gunz first album
So what
 

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When did Jay associate himself with OG Juan and his wife?

Im asking cuz i believe that was another real reason they broke up (after the snitch rumors and reports). Dame has hinted at it for yrs but oddly nobody have noticed
what?

that timeline is so fukking out of sync and chronology

Dame has had multiple conflicting stories for years. Jay was moving away from him long before the break up. friction from the dipset era and Dame trying to make Cam VP while jay was on "vacation"

Dame had started running the shyt like he didn't have to consult anybody and shyt was never the same after that.
 

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what?

that timeline is so fukking out of sync and chronology

Dame has had multiple conflicting stories for years. Jay was moving away from him long before the break up. friction from the dipset era and Dame trying to make Cam VP while jay was on "vacation"

Dame had started running the shyt like he didn't have to consult anybody and shyt was never the same after that.

I already know the story. I said its prolly ANOTHER reason
 

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When did Jay associate himself with OG Juan and his wife?

Im asking cuz i believe that was another real reason they broke up (after the snitch rumors and reports). Dame has hinted at it for yrs but oddly nobody have noticed
Jay been having Juan around him. Juan was his connect in the streets also.

He was around Jay as far back as 2000 in rap shyt. He was talking on Jay mixtapes in 01-02 ect.

Nobody knew about his wife snitching on some king pins in the 80s or 90s until like 2008 to later when The NY Times ran a article on here pretty much which was smear cause she was challenging the establishment

Nobody still knows who she told on tho, but it was kingpin level traffickers tho.

Damn started using that as an excuse years later, he used Jay working with r Kelly also as one.

The real reason is Jay severed the relationship after dame was moving disrespectful and erratic shytting on bleek, using company money for his own businesses and used jay to blow up armadal liquor but it wasn’t a roc thing and it was a dame thing and paid no money to Jay. Making cam a leader of the roc ect.

Jay ended up killing the relationship and came to dame and Biggs and asked to be brought out and they could keep everything but he wanted reasonable doubt.

Dame said no

So Jay who def jam owed millions on millions of back money made a deal with Jay to let him be the president of roc, get all his masters back and everything cause if he was to cash the checks(it was said he didn’t cash any checks from like 98 royalty wise) it would have damn best bankrupt the company.

So no, dame didn’t end the relationship, jay did and dame was salty and pissed bout it for years on years, getting dips to diss Jay constantly.
 

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It was very obvious/known that Jay was throwing Biggs a bone out of pity once he came home from the pokey. He had him on the road managing new artists like he was a flunky. Dame has sour grapes but he’s right about Biggs.
I mean they wasn’t cool when he went in. Had fell out years prior and I’m sure didn’t speak at all.

If he would have came home to nothing he woulda went back to the streets. Jay gave him something stable and a foot to stand on and he’s still maintaining now.
 
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