"The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun,"

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The county I grew up in had resource officers (city police for city schools; sheriff deputies for county schools) in all the middle and high schools ....

If the result of this tragic situation in Conneticut is to put officers in elementary school...then, although places are strapped for cash.. I support that...
 

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its not guns particularly....its all the other rights that have been diluted.... did you just exit the womb recently??....have you NOT been paying attention at all the past 10 years..

If many of the other amendments that supposedly legally protect us have been thrown in the bushes ... then how is it far fetched that the 2nd Amendment is also getting closer to being tossed or diluted even more............How is that :mindblown:???

Its sad case that I have to explain the background/reasoning behind what I'm saying....your rights/liberties/freedoms have been extinguished almost completely out in terms of how recent laws have been framed.....

I'm not just saying shiit for the hell of it..... damn breh......

NDAA
NDAA Case: Indefinite Detention Injunction Does Irreparable Harm, Obama Admin. Lawyers Argue

FISA
FISA Warrantless Wiretapping Bill Poised For Renewal Despite Unanswered Questions

^^both articles are in the last few days about the continuation of laws that don't quite square with the Bill of Rights.........and both come from a liberal leaning site (since bringing the same story from a MSM or non-liberal website, its suspect).....:rudy:...how is this shiit complicated?? unless you don't understand or know history?? then its probably complicated...

Edit:... you SN is Propaganda....you :troll:ing out here?

the fukk? how about you just stay on topic instead of trying to conflate the issue by bringing in that other shyt. obviously your "any excuse" statement is what i took issue with.

and that's because you completely marginalize the tens of thousands of gun deaths a year and then completely ignore the fact that you have hundreds of millions of firearms in the us and that the 2nd amendment isn't going ANYWHERE...you'll always have guns, eventually it might not be so easy to get your hands on a weapon that can wipe out 50 people in seconds but you'll always have your precious guns. so you're about 340 trillion miles away from being a "disarmed populace".

get your fukking head straight. bringing up gun regulation, especially after a massacre like in newtown isn't some nefarious conspiracy, it's a public safety issue.

you have a problem with fisa and shyt? fine. but this isn't the thread to stand on your soapbox about it.
 

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Explain.....curious to know what movie and better explanation??...
Bruce Willis as an action hero is :salute:

Shiits not complicated..yall act like the Bill of Rights hasn't been extremely diluted the past 10 years??? is that not true?? @The Guru

its funny liberals were saying this was the case, raving mad 2000 -08, and now conservatives (some anyway), are in fits of fury....and liberals give you the :childplease: .. which is why I took off them political party spectacles and looked at things for what they were.....



at what point did freedom become dated??? :whoo:

My bad, i was referring the original post. "The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun"
 
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And you think outlawing all guns or even assault rifles will prevent someone from obtaining one to do something like this again, in America, friend? You dont seem to understand where you live. Its a nice gesture just as a cover your butt policy but its actual effectiveness sounds terrible for preventing crimes like this.

That's why you don't ban assault rifles, machine guns or any other type of guns. You let the gun nuts have exactly what they want, which is no infringement upon their "right" to own a gun, to "bear arms".....

...but you outlaw the manufacture of ammunition.
 

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That's why you don't ban assault rifles, machine guns or any other type of guns. You let the gun nuts have exactly what they want, which is no infringement upon their "right" to own a gun, to "bear arms".....

...but you outlaw the manufacture of ammunition.

Silly. Its not hard to make a bullet friend. :smugdraper:
 

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Silly. Its not hard to make a bullet friend. :smugdraper:

...that's why it's called being "outlawed".

America makes this a harder problem than it really is....

But fine, America....don't do ANYTHING, then, and sit on your hands like you've been doing, and then have the audacity to be outraged when something like this happens again.
 

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...that's why it's called being "outlawed".

America makes this a harder problem than it really is....

But fine, America....don't do ANYTHING, then, and sit on your hands like you've been doing, and then have the audacity to be outraged when something like this happens again.

We'll b ok. We should instead work on changing the demonic culture of the country that mainstreams demonic entertainment and philosophies. Thats a more realistic approach.
 

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We'll b ok. We should instead work on changing the demonic culture of the country that mainstreams demonic entertainment and philosophies. Thats a more realistic approach.

IMO, that's the more UNREALISTIC approach. You can't erase generations of debauchery so easily.

We live in a society full of people unwilling to accept personal culpability.
 

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Which is why you need to keep them banned longer than 10 years. The guns that were made before that ban didnt just disappear.

You keep them banned long enough and they become harder and harder for some loon who just snaps one day to get their hands on one.

yea, and the only thing banning them longer than 10 years would do is expand the black market..With the internet becoming more advanced everyday, a ban on semi automatic rifles would not stop any loon from doing what there heart desires. At least with it being legal the government can regulate and track where the weapons are sold.
 

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yea, and the only thing banning them longer than 10 years would do is expand the black market..With the internet becoming more advanced everyday, a ban on semi automatic rifles would not stop any loon from doing what there heart desires. At least with it being legal the government can regulate and track where the weapons are sold.

Yeah, the black market. That place where the average person on the street has connections and can obtain anything they want. Every year lots of people get arrested trying to buy shyt on the black market and end up talking to FBI agents. If the black market was the only place to buy assault weapons then a lot more of these crazy idiots would end up being caught before they killed anyone.

How does you last statement make any sense? There is a black market for those weapons now even while they are legal. Also the mother of the killer in this CT shooting bought her gun legally and it was registered. That did nothing to protect the lives of those little kids now did it?
 

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The Kid's mom could have had two semi automatic pistols laying around and it still could have done the same damage as the semi automatic rifle did here, friend

what is he gonna do with two pistols? 'dual wield' them? :heh: you watch too many movies

he had an AR-15 with 30 round mags

and of course a higher caliber round than a pistol...

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-.45 ACP:

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-9mm NATO:

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-.223 (Adam's ammo):

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