Dem313wayz
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I agree on Davis about his arm strength. Buy with these piss poor weapons and avg o line I'm fine with him red shirting. Last thing we need is for his confidence to get broken
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I agree on Davis about his arm strength. Buy with these piss poor weapons and avg o line I'm fine with him red shirting. Last thing we need is for his confidence to get broken
eastside313
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I don’t care bout none of that. Michigan could’ve gotten a competent qb.
Vanderbilt's QB was available for a LONG time
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Klatt is 100000000000000% on point here. I found myself asking the same thing while watching, with the defensive calls.
Sending 6 and dropping back in zone?
Huh?Bunch formation with 3 out wide and only having 2 defenders to defend them? While having 2 defenders out wide on a single receiver on the other side of the field?
Sending a safety blitz in 85% of third and longs?
Someone said it on the forums and it made a million percent sense. Wink's an OG. And he's used to teaching scheme, not player development. In the NFL, the majority of guys are there to earn a check and they've done enough to 'make it'
College in a whole different animal.
If Jadyn Davis doesn’t want to play now given what’s in front of him, I’m not interested in seeing him in 2025 or 26. He was an early enrollee that participated in bowl practices. Either way we will all find out 1000% about Sherrone Moore this offseason. No more questions needed.
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Klatt is 100000000000000% on point here. I found myself asking the same thing while watching, with the defensive calls.
Sending 6 and dropping back in zone?
Bunch formation with 3 out wide and only having 2 defenders to defend them? While having 2 defenders out wide on a single receiver on the other side of the field?
Sending a safety blitz in 85% of third and longs?
Someone said it on the forums and it made a million percent sense. Wink's an OG. And he's used to teaching scheme, not player development. In the NFL, the majority of guys are there to earn a check and they've done enough to 'make it'
College in a whole different animal.
Wink was too old to go back to college. If no NFL team wanted him as a DC, Michigan shouldn’t either. We’ll see how fast Sherrone fixes mistakes
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The more I think about it, the more i realize that dude might never take a meaningful snap at UM (minus injury to starters)
I think it's highly likely that we try and get an instant impact QB in the portal this offseason. To the point where if he's gettin a bag dropped at his feet, then I'm assuming UM's gonna want a ROI .. which means Jadyn's gonna be backup. If that QB has multiple years left and not only one, then we'll have carter Smith with a year and a half (he's an early enrollee) in the program too. I see higher upside with Smith right now. The after Smith, we've got another early enrollee in Brady Hart. Not to mention, a decision hasn't been made if Hart might reclassify to 2025 instead of 2026. So that could be an option too.
So either Davis gets with the program, and does what the team needs, or his career at UM could be over before it ever even starts.
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That's weird. Sometimes sites bullshyt, but him not being available was reported by every damn site (rivals, On3 and 24/7)
I hope he's being truthful.. cause god forbid Tuttle goes down, I really don't wanna have to see Orji/Warren again.
The Tuttle era 
Three QBs before the bye is NASTY work
Three QBs before the bye is NASTY work
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Color me skeptical but internally there is plenty of optimism
Color me skeptical but internally there is plenty of optimism
now that Michigan has its quarterback. Barring injury, Jack Tuttle will be the guy the rest of the way. In a perfect world, he would have been the guy all along, but obviously injuries played a role. That he got in there last week, ahead of schedule, had everything to do with the desperation the coaching staff felt and the unequivocal admittance that try as he might, Alex Orji was not it.
I mentioned last week that coming off the bye there would be serious discussion about switching QBs. It would have been difficult if Orji was 3-0 as the starter, but there was momentum inside the program to make the switch regardless. The x-factor was of course Tuttle's arm strength, which wasn't close to 100% last Saturday but was good enough. He offered a steady, veteran presence at a moment when it could have gotten very ugly, a 14-0 deficit could have been 28-0 at the half.
The coaches will never admit this but they never fully bought into Orji as their guy and were extremely slow to adapt the offense to his strengths. There were obviously slight tweaks week to week, but not the wholesale changes to put him in the best position to be successful. When he started the game 3 of 7, and U-M was down two scores, it provided the staff the perfect cover to make a switch.
Now, the belief is Michigan can run the full gamut of its offensive playbook, with Tuttle as a weapon as a runner in addition to his passing potential. No one is talking about it - which defies belief - but U-M still very much has a receiver problem. The coaches think they will show dramatic improvement with Tuttle under center. "Sometimes the second or third read were there but Alex never made it through his progressions" and the belief is that with some confidence, all the receivers will make big gains.
This is a big week for the offensive line too as it appears all positions are being evaluated. Incredibly, there hasn't been a change at right tackle despite Evan Link posting the worst pass-blocking grade week after week, but Michigan is looking at this bye week as a reset. A few positions are locked (Tuttle, Mullings, Edwards, Loveland), but everything else is getting a fresh look as the Wolverines attempt to save their season.
Defensively, there is a stubbornness in place that isn't good for anybody. As one source noted, it reminded him of the Don Brown days when DB was convinced it wasn't about scheme or play-calling but execution, refusing to acknowledge his deficiencies. Wink is certain the lightbulb will go on for the secondary with more practice and experience. One of the issues with this Michigan defensive staff (and really the whole staff) is a lack of big-time college experience, and no one really has the experience and moxie to challenge the status quo.
Of course, it would help if the veterans on the back end, Will Johnson and Makari Paige, weren't making glaring errors. Johnson has at least deterred teams from throwing his way, but Paige has been one of the defense's worst players this season, always one step from where he needs to be in allowing big plays. He's also dropped 2-3 interceptions that would have been game-changers.
One of the more underappreciated aspects of Mikey Sainristill's career was how sure a tackler he was, and how many times he closed quickly to get his hands on a pass. His replacement, Zeke Berry, is a poor tackler, a symptom of this defense overall.
One more thing, I asked one of my sources why we didn't see more of Amorion Walker after his nice catch. That left him shaking his head. In his opinion, there are several frustrating personnel decisions being repeated. Walker and Fred Moore are two of the more explosive receivers on the team, each capable of getting separation. They are not yet ferocious blockers, which we know is a must for Ron Bellamy, but once the QB change was made, and the tone of the offense shifted to more pass ... well, it was a missed opportunity to get them on the field more.
Oh, I'm adding another comment ... I asked about the transfer portal and Michigan very much intends to use it to address its quarterback situation next season. I asked if there were any early names, but they didn't have any (or none they wanted to share). What I did find promising was an acknowledgement that they needed to get the best QB on the market. This isn't about bringing in a quarterback to compete, but bringing in a bona fide starter.
I mentioned last week that coming off the bye there would be serious discussion about switching QBs. It would have been difficult if Orji was 3-0 as the starter, but there was momentum inside the program to make the switch regardless. The x-factor was of course Tuttle's arm strength, which wasn't close to 100% last Saturday but was good enough. He offered a steady, veteran presence at a moment when it could have gotten very ugly, a 14-0 deficit could have been 28-0 at the half.
The coaches will never admit this but they never fully bought into Orji as their guy and were extremely slow to adapt the offense to his strengths. There were obviously slight tweaks week to week, but not the wholesale changes to put him in the best position to be successful. When he started the game 3 of 7, and U-M was down two scores, it provided the staff the perfect cover to make a switch.
Now, the belief is Michigan can run the full gamut of its offensive playbook, with Tuttle as a weapon as a runner in addition to his passing potential. No one is talking about it - which defies belief - but U-M still very much has a receiver problem. The coaches think they will show dramatic improvement with Tuttle under center. "Sometimes the second or third read were there but Alex never made it through his progressions" and the belief is that with some confidence, all the receivers will make big gains.
This is a big week for the offensive line too as it appears all positions are being evaluated. Incredibly, there hasn't been a change at right tackle despite Evan Link posting the worst pass-blocking grade week after week, but Michigan is looking at this bye week as a reset. A few positions are locked (Tuttle, Mullings, Edwards, Loveland), but everything else is getting a fresh look as the Wolverines attempt to save their season.
Defensively, there is a stubbornness in place that isn't good for anybody. As one source noted, it reminded him of the Don Brown days when DB was convinced it wasn't about scheme or play-calling but execution, refusing to acknowledge his deficiencies. Wink is certain the lightbulb will go on for the secondary with more practice and experience. One of the issues with this Michigan defensive staff (and really the whole staff) is a lack of big-time college experience, and no one really has the experience and moxie to challenge the status quo.
Of course, it would help if the veterans on the back end, Will Johnson and Makari Paige, weren't making glaring errors. Johnson has at least deterred teams from throwing his way, but Paige has been one of the defense's worst players this season, always one step from where he needs to be in allowing big plays. He's also dropped 2-3 interceptions that would have been game-changers.
One of the more underappreciated aspects of Mikey Sainristill's career was how sure a tackler he was, and how many times he closed quickly to get his hands on a pass. His replacement, Zeke Berry, is a poor tackler, a symptom of this defense overall.
One more thing, I asked one of my sources why we didn't see more of Amorion Walker after his nice catch. That left him shaking his head. In his opinion, there are several frustrating personnel decisions being repeated. Walker and Fred Moore are two of the more explosive receivers on the team, each capable of getting separation. They are not yet ferocious blockers, which we know is a must for Ron Bellamy, but once the QB change was made, and the tone of the offense shifted to more pass ... well, it was a missed opportunity to get them on the field more.
Oh, I'm adding another comment ... I asked about the transfer portal and Michigan very much intends to use it to address its quarterback situation next season. I asked if there were any early names, but they didn't have any (or none they wanted to share). What I did find promising was an acknowledgement that they needed to get the best QB on the market. This isn't about bringing in a quarterback to compete, but bringing in a bona fide starter.
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