Man, I hate Ice and Ish when it comes to real rap discussions. These nikkas always have the wackest talking points. Ice always got the numbskull pov and Ish talk from a "I ain't listened to rap since EPMD was moving units... Unless it's Jay Z" pov. Joe be cooking or at least fibbing a perspective from somebody that's fine this and know wtf he talking bout, then these 2 goofiest come in and fukk the whole discussion up. Them nikkas need to sit out and let Joe and Parks rock and bring in a special guest whenever they have these landmark rap moments.