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It's really amazing that on a message board with a large proportion of mentally ill individuals, agent provocateurs, fake militants, and run-of-the-mill idiots, Nap still stands out as the worst poster here.

The glee with which he's wishing and hoping for death, bloodshed and destruction is beyond disgusting.
 

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There are no innocent civilians in an occupied land. Every one of those Israelis knew the only reason they had the land they party and live on is because they have bigger guns backing them up. fukk them for choosing to live the high life at the expense of other humans.

fukk Israel.
This thread is a mess, but it is expected for Israel/Palestine matters.

There is no legit reason to target civilians, none. If Hamas target military outposts, fine. If they go house to house in kibbutz or to a trance festival to slaughter civilians, it's not. It's that simple.

You can rationalize it the way you want, the very moment, you make it ok to do so, you open the pandora box. It's the same reason, there are outcries when Israel targets journalists, activists and other civilians. it's not ok no matter where it comes from.

It's totally fine to be anti zionist because zionism is an ethno-nationalism that is used to justify Israel's colonialism. But don't let this blind you to the point you're ok with hundreds of civilians getting massacred.
 

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Five things to know:

1. Netanyahu’s far-right government has intensified Israel’s violent repression of Palestinians since taking power earlier this year.

Before the latest surge in violence, Israeli soldiers had already killed more than 250 Palestinians, including at least 47 children, in the occupied West Bank, more than any year since the Second Intifada, or uprising, against Israel’s occupation in the early 2000s.
Extremist Israeli settlers have also ramped up their attacks on Palestinians in an attempt to push them off their land. In August, the UN warned of a dramatic increase in settler violence, with nearly 600 attacks recorded in the first six months of the year, averaging 99 incidents each month.
Israeli extremists have also increased their provocations in and around the Noble Sanctuary Mosque complex in occupied East Jerusalem, the third holiest site in Islam, which they want to destroy and replace with a Jewish temple. Israel’s notorious National Security Minister Itamar Ben-Gvir has repeatedly visited the site to demonstrate Israeli dominance over it.

2. Gaza has been under brutal Israeli military occupation for more than 50 years.

Under international law, Gaza remains under Israeli military occupation, despite Israel’s withdrawal of settlers and soldiers from the interior of Gaza in 2005, because it continues to control virtually all entry and exit, as well as Gaza's airspace and coastline.

3. Israel has imposed a suffocating, illegal siege and naval blockade on Gaza for more than 15 years.

More than 2 million Palestinians are trapped in Gaza under Israel’s draconian siege and naval blockade, unable to travel to get medical treatment, go to school, or visit family and friends, deprived of basic goods and supplies. Gaza’s economy has been devastated by the siege and blockade, and by repeated Israeli military assaults that have destroyed much of Gaza’s civilian infrastructure. The siege and blockade have been repeatedly condemned by the UN and human rights organizations as a form of collective punishment and illegal.

4. Most Palestinians in Gaza are refugees, expelled from what became southern Israel in 1948.

Two-thirds of Palestinians in Gaza are refugees who were expelled from their homes during Israel’s establishment in 1948, denied their internationally recognized legal right to return simply because they aren’t Jewish.

5. The source of the problem in all of Palestine/Israel is Israel’s brutal military occupation and apartheid system that was established in 1948.

In the words of Amnesty International: “Israel has established and maintained an institutionalized regime of oppression and domination of the Palestinian population for the benefit of Jewish Israelis – a system of apartheid – wherever it has exercised control over Palestinians’ lives since 1948.” The only way to end the violence is to end Israel’s occupation and apartheid system.

 

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It's really amazing that on a message board with a large proportion of mentally ill individuals, agent provocateurs, fake militants, and run-of-the-mill idiots, Nap still stands out as the worst poster here.

The glee with which he's wishing and hoping for death, bloodshed and destruction is beyond disgusting.

where did any of this happen?
 

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If you're a black American, this isn't your fight, and there's no need to throw on the cape for the Israeli or the Palestinians. I can't stand the Middle East, can't wait for climate change to cook all of those motherfukkers.


And I wouldn't trust any information coming from twitter, especially a twitter handle with American/Russian/Ukrainian/rainbow flags attached to them, they're likely on some bullshyt, and this isn't me on some "both sides" bullshyt either.
 

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That's it?

a few online clips of combating tear gas because they want international support? Is this all it takes for black people to think they have foreign allies?

Again, don't be ambiguous. We all know you're a muslim but you're not Palestinian so whats your investment in this beyond getting Israel to stop being so oppressive against Palestinians physically. Which I agree with.

Should Palestinians get their own country? Where? Why?

Or do you just not like jewish people?
 

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That's it?

a few online clips of combating tear gas because they want international support? Is this all it takes for black people to think they have foreign allies?

Again, don't be ambiguous. We all know you're a muslim but you're not Palestinian so whats your investment in this beyond getting Israel to stop being so oppressive against Palestinians physically. Which I agree with.

Should Palestinians get their own country? Where? Why?

Or do you just not like jewish people?

Palestinians deserve their own country. Absolutely.

Or a one state solution where they have full rights.

There's no other solution. Unless you support Israel annexing the territories and forcefully expelling the Palestinians to the Sinai or Jordan (which doesn't want this).

I have no issues with Jewish people. Most Jews I know are not fans of Israel.
 

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Knew it. I'm telling you, netanyahu and co. probably believed that even if shyt went left that he could blame his domestic opponents. Remember that the many leaders in the military/Intel agencies openly opposed his attempts to take over the supreme Court etc.

When some of the first videos showed up I was a little confused bc it was hard to tell just how many ppl were involved. But now it's wild seeing they had small convoys of trucks filled with fighters, the paragliders, dudes pouring into bases, breaching walls, drones. Some of the clips in the residential areas suggested they were organized into squad and even platoon sized teams.

Of all those ppl it's impossible that Israel didn't have at least a few informants either among the families of attackers/planners, that they didn't intercept any communications, didn't notice movements, didn't get wind of all these guns/drones/gliders/bombs etc.
 

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Just a few days ago, Assaf Pozilov, a reporter for the Kan public broadcaster, tweeted the following: “The Islamic Jihad organization has started a noisy exercise very close to the border, in which they practiced launching missiles, breaking into Israel and kidnapping soldiers.”
 
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