The Official Israel-Gaza Thread

[2Quik4UHoes]

Those who speak of a 1 state solution know it will never happen. Virtue signaling...there is no way Jews will live in 1 state with hamas sympathizers who can rise to the office of prime minister to be in charge of nukes and the most powerful military in the middle east. Never.

Is that any different from the very violent ultranationalist settlers? They’re both the same symptoms but on opposite ends of the Palestine/Israel conflict. One state would mean the people on both sides that are simply interested in living in that land mass need to reimagine what their society looks like. Basically a similar action to ending apartheid South Africa, not to say SA is perfect now but it at least made it more possible to have oppressor and oppressed still in the same place.

If the extremists of Zionism decide to shoot nukes and act even more murderous then all it proves is that they are worse monsters that Hamas could only dream of being.

 

[Hood Critic]

Looks like he isn’t accepting it

He doesn't want it but he's going to ultimately accept it.

 

[85 East]

Those who speak of a 1 state solution know it will never happen. Virtue signaling...there is no way Jews will live in 1 state with hamas sympathizers who can rise to the office of prime minister to be in charge of nukes and the most powerful military in the middle east. Never.

Yet it happened in South Africa and Germany in my lifetime. They need to solve this problem. It's a snake eating it's own tail at this point.

 

[mastermind]

He doesn't want it but he's going to ultimately accept it.

we will see, but im unsure because he publicly saying fukk no. He also wants a war with Lebanon too.

Again, anything that stops this brings attention back to him and his criminal trial.

 

[voiture]

Is that any different from the very violent ultranationalist settlers? They’re both the same symptoms but on opposite ends of the Palestine/Israel conflict. One state would mean the people on both sides that are simply interested in living in that land mass need to reimagine what their society looks like. Basically a similar action to ending apartheid South Africa, not to say SA is perfect now but it at least made it more possible to have oppressor and oppressed still in the same place.

If the extremists of Zionism decide to shoot nukes and act even more murderous then all it proves is that they are worse monsters that Hamas could only dream of being.

Yet it happened in South Africa and Germany in my lifetime. They need to solve this problem. It's a snake eating it's own tail at this point.

The Jews are dealing with horrific memories of the holocaust. They will never take the chance of a 1 state solution where they will get outnumbered. No chance....this issue needs to be solved but it won't be a 1 state solution. Only a fool does not take lessons from history...human nature never changes...Why open the door for another Hitler to wipe them out?

A 2 state solution or the Arab states should absorb the Palestinians. It happens after wars all the time but since hamas wants to keep fighting, the best option is to settle it on the battle field.

 

[Robbie3000]

The Jews are dealing with horrific memories of the holocaust. They will never take the chance of a 1 state solution where they will get outnumbered. No chance....this issue needs to be solved but it won't be a 1 state solution. Only a fool does not take lessons from history...human nature never changes...Why open the door for another Hitler to wipe them out?

A 2 state solution or the Arab states should absorb the Palestinians. It happens after wars all the time but since hamas wants to keep fighting, the best option is to settle it on the battle field.

So you want to ethnically cleanse 5 million indigenous people from their lands for a petulant fascist state?

Palestinians are not going anywhere. Israel will have to kill all 5 million of them and that’s why Israel is destined to lose one way or another.

 

[voiture]

So you want to ethnically cleanse 5 million indigenous people from their lands for a petulant fascist state?

Palestinians are not going anywhere. Israel will have to kill all 5 million of them and that’s why Israel is destined to lose one way or another.

Who talked about ethnically cleansing anyone? Read what I said...if hamas keeps fighting, this will be settled on the battlefield.

You must live in an alternative universe if you think continuous cycle of violence leads to Israeli loss. History is clear, when the violence erupts, Israel gains more land. The Palestinians should know that by now and try for peace and take any deal that they can get.

 

[Robbie3000]

Who talked about ethnically cleansing anyone? Read what I said...if hamas keeps fighting, this will be settled on the battlefield.

You must live in an alternative universe if you think continuous cycle of violence leads to Israeli loss. History is clear, when the violence erupts, Israel gains more land. The Palestinians should know that by now and try for peace and take any deal that they can get.

Two state solution might work, but Arab nations absorbing Palestinians is ethnic cleansing by definition.

Israel is losing support on the world stage each day. They can’t maintain an apartheid state forever. The U.S is the only thing standing between Israel and pariah status.

 

[FAH1223]

 

[Json]

The Jews are dealing with horrific memories of the holocaust. They will never take the chance of a 1 state solution where they will get outnumbered. No chance....this issue needs to be solved but it won't be a 1 state solution. Only a fool does not take lessons from history...human nature never changes...Why open the door for another Hitler to wipe them out?

A 2 state solution or the Arab states should absorb the Palestinians. It happens after wars all the time but since hamas wants to keep fighting, the best option is to settle it on the battle field.

But wasn’t it the Israelis who killed their own prime minister who was trying to make true steps to a 2 state solution?

Hamas killed its own people to take control of the government.

Both sides will need to keep an eye on their own who don’t agree with meaningful steps to achievable peace( like the settlers giving back land or Hamas disarming) just because a small subset won’t get what it wants which is the whole point of negotiations.

 

[SCORCH]

 

[85 East]

The Jews are dealing with horrific memories of the holocaust. They will never take the chance of a 1 state solution where they will get outnumbered. No chance....this issue needs to be solved but it won't be a 1 state solution. Only a fool does not take lessons from history...human nature never changes...Why open the door for another Hitler to wipe them out?

A 2 state solution or the Arab states should absorb the Palestinians. It happens after wars all the time but since hamas wants to keep fighting, the best option is to settle it on the battle field.

You guys act like Hamas is an internationally backed military army, with weapons of mass destruction, and a land mass as big as Russia.

The fact they can make the IDF, backed by the biggest army in the world, supplied weapons and money, back down, shows that Israel doesn't have any real goals, plans, or ability to remove Hamas.

Hamas isn't China or even north Korea.

At this point anything said is really just an excuse for ethnic cleansing and keeping Netanyahu put of prison.

 

[voiture]

Two state solution might work, but Arab nations absorbing Palestinians is ethnic cleansing by definition.

Israel is losing support on the world stage each day. They can’t maintain an apartheid state forever. The U.S is the only thing standing between Israel and pariah status.

If this is the case then you should want Israel to continue their military operations since it will lead to their demise according to you?

 

[Robbie3000]

If this is the case then you should want Israel to continue their military operations since it will lead to their demise according to you?

Now why would I want that?



It's just a fact that Israel is losing in the court of public opinion. Ireland, Norway and Spain decided to recognize Palestine in 2024. The ICC is seeking arrest warrants for Net and Yahoo and the rest of the barbarians in his circle, pro palestinian protests all over, losing the youth etc.

By the way, here is a map of countries that recognize Palestine. Notice anything interesting?

International recognition of the State of Palestine - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Pressure]

You guys act like Hamas is an internationally backed military army, with weapons of mass destruction, and a land mass as big as Russia.

No, hamas is a terrorist organizing ham fistedly governing over Gazans.

The presumption is they cannot win a war against Israel and none of the Arab partners of value are offering them the support they’d need.

They tried and they’ve lost. They need to accept the L.

At this point anything said is really just an excuse for ethnic cleansing and keeping Netanyahu put of prison.

Hamas isn’t interested in peace. Neither is Bibi. He’s currently on trial, so this continued escalation is one of the few things keeping him in power.