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This really begs the question, if you're not emotionally invested in the conflict, why are you so emotionally invested in attacking anyone who criticizes Israel or the US' role in it? Why go through the trouble if you don't actually give a shyt?

Because he's a dikk riding faccot he loves the attention
 

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Exactly. Therefore, they are supporting Trump.
That’s not how that works.
In 1948 Palestinians welcomed jew refugees into their country and allowed them to build up infrastructure to self sustain.( this is not excluding u.k colonial occupation of Palestine). Some how this has turned into Palestinians need to get out of Gaza and the west bank whether that be Jordan, Egypt or Yemen. This is genocide and ethnic cleansing by cac white supremacist who practice judaism
Indeed. They have a history of living and helping each other. The real hatred is Christians vs Jews.

its 18th/19th settler colonialism in the 21st century.
 

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We can all agree that Israel is doing too much.
We should all be able to agree Hamas fukked up and Gazans are paying the price.

But any discussion around long term solutions is going to require a lot of y'all to admit some uncomfortable truths you don't seem to be willing tohave and haven't been willing to have in the 10 years this thread has been going on.
 

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In 1948 Palestinians welcomed jew refugees into their country and allowed them to build up infrastructure to self sustain.( this is not excluding u.k colonial occupation of Palestine). Some how this has turned into Palestinians need to get out of Gaza and the west bank whether that be Jordan, Egypt or Yemen. This is genocide and ethnic cleansing by cac white supremacist who practice judaism
This the kind of stuff I'm talking about.

The first settlements weren't until 1967 and following the six day war.
 

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This the kind of stuff I'm talking about.

The first settlements weren't until 1967 and following the six day war.
Exactly that's my point. They came in as refugees fleeing the holocaust and in 20 years started land grabbing and haven't slowed down at all. fukk them.
 

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In 1948 Palestinians welcomed jew refugees into their country and allowed them to build up infrastructure to self sustain.( this is not excluding u.k colonial occupation of Palestine). Some how this has turned into Palestinians need to get out of Gaza and the west bank whether that be Jordan, Egypt or Yemen. This is genocide and ethnic cleansing by cac white supremacist who practice judaism

In this current situation, the game plan for Israel is the following.

1. Expel the Palestinians into the Sinai. Remember, as part of the Peace Treaty between Israel and Egypt, Sinai is divided into zones that mention what the security buildup should be.


MFO_Sinai.jpg


Zone C is probably where they want to put them. The Zones are as follows:
  1. Zone A: Between the Suez Canal and Line A. Egypt is permitted a mechanized infantry division with a total of 22,000 troops in Zone A.
  2. Zone B: Between Line A and Line B. Egypt is permitted four border security battalions to support the civilian police in Zone B.
  3. Zone C: Between Line B and the Egypt–Israel border. Only the MFO Peacekeepers and the Egyptian civilian police are permitted within Zone C.
  4. Zone D: Between the Egypt–Israel border and Line D. Israel is permitted four infantry battalions in Zone D.

2. Once the Palestinians are in Sinai, what's going to happen? They'll probably be able to get arms and they'll become a nuisance to Israel in the years to come to try to get back to their homes.

Then the Israelis will accuse Egypt of harboring terrorists. And the 1979 Peace Treaty goes to hell with the Israelis saying they'll need a buffer and will probably re-occupy parts of Sinai. This would be to push the Gazans further into Egypt closer to the Suez.

Israel doesn't have a Constitution and doesn't define its borders. So, don't be surprised.
 

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That’s not how that works.
That’s exactly how it works.

Barring some unforeseen unprecedented situation where a third party candidate has an actual chance to win the general election, the election will be a binary choice, as it always has been throughout our lifetimes.

Particularly in a state like Michigan, if a Democratic leaning segment of the population withholds support for Biden as a protest, and has the numbers to effect the outcome, which of course applies to Muslims in razor thin Michigan, they will swing the election to Trump. Their action will directly result in Trump winning the state and perhaps the Presidency. They know this. They aren’t denying it.

How is that not supporting Trump?
 

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That’s exactly how it works.

Barring some unforeseen unprecedented situation where a third party candidate has an actual chance to win the general election, the election will be a binary choice, as it always has been throughout our lifetimes.

Particularly in a state like Michigan, if a Democratic leaning segment of the population withholds support for Biden as a protest, and has the numbers to effect the outcome, which of course applies to Muslims in razor thin Michigan, they will swing the election to Trump. Their action will directly result in Trump winning the state and perhaps the Presidency. They know this. They aren’t denying it.

How is that not supporting Trump?
So they should vote for the guy supporting an ethnic cleansing against Arabs? its not cutting your nose to save your face when both options are to cut your nose. That’s the problem with the American political system.
 

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So they should vote for the guy supporting an ethnic cleansing against Arabs? its not cutting your nose to save your face when both options are to cut your nose. That’s the problem with the American political system.

The issue also is the fear of the voting public to register as independents and voting third party. Staying home and not voting at all makes less sense to me than throwing weight behind viable 3rd party options.

American politics will remain stagnant as long as the voters keep playing politics like it’s sports. fukk the red team vs blue team paradigm. Everyone from the Arabs who are the latest aggrieved voting bloc to various groups within the Black voting bloc like Ethiopians and Haitians who were aggrieved earlier on in Biden’s term should be aiming at 3rd party voting.
 
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