The Official Israel-Gaza Thread
Json
Superstar
Oil market doesn’t work like that. A year plus in Ukraine should tell you that. Especially since Israel has the American/ western oil markets behind it.the diplomatic calls ain't doing anything immediate or pertinentand its been over a month. yal really need to grasp the fact that hamas may have straight up finished this chapter of history off on its own people already.
for one of the worst months in a generation, help did not come. and the stuff that some people here are trying to boost up is nothing more than posturing against literal nonstop saturation fire. that's absurd.
you can't eat, bunker in, or get blood from empty threats, meaningless gestures, and hashtags. the plight of armenians or the closure of an embassy counts for next to nothing for people in gaza. like cmon... west bank getting hot is just further justification to punch down. great stuff.
lebanon's economy can barely even afford a show of force. they spent the last few years trying to dodge coups lol
saudi arabia could threaten oil flow and have everyone seated at the table, cease fires and supplementary governments and all, before the IDF even moved tanks in.
if anything, them not up and shelving israel's outreach completely at the onset of this just solidifies that they have passively approved this violence, the outcome, and the way forward.
saudi's stance is textbook impartiality and enablement
Y’all gonna have to explain to my slow ass how Hamas isn’t the government in Gaza, but they’re the ones doing all the negotiations for Gazans.
Ethnic Vagina Finder
The Great Paper Chaser
They're doing a hostage negotiation. I guess someone missed the we don't negotiate with terrorism trope of the 2000s?
why did biden and the whole admin scramble to access the reserves just a few years back
there was a whole round of applause for how it was handled as well.https://www.reuters.com/markets/us/...ncy-oil-sales-spark-us-production-2022-10-18/
Quick version: "The White House had an added sense of urgency after the Saudi Arabia-led Organization of the Petroleum Exporting Countries rankled Biden by siding with Russia and agreeing to a production cut, prompting the president to declare that the U.S.-Saudi relationship needs a revaluation."
SA plays oil games to apply pressure for much, much pettier reasons even if short memories paint a different picture. shyt, they checked the US harder for Ukraine than they did for Israel too. All this shows just how little SA gives a fukk in regard to warcrimes while they're content to slide any Israel alignment further down the calendar.
And there's way too many folks trying to boost Lebanon like they ain't been scrambling to salvage their economy since the start of the decade. Sending folks to die on the border could be seen as a way to diminish manpower that could be spun up for another coup attempt considering how paranoia has taken over after the bottom fell out of their banking if anything.
Ethnic Vagina Finder
The Great Paper Chaser
the pain in both their eyes.
So who is the government in charge there?
mastermind
Rest In Power Kobe
It’s 18th/19th century colonialism streamed to your phone.
Who bankrolls Hamas?
Qatar. Turkey. Iran.
Qatar is the chief patron. And Mossad has been going to Doha for years to negotiate with Hamas leaders via the Qataris.
And of course Doha has US military base right there. So the US is intimately involved. Biden pushed for this deal and Netanyahu is defying Ben Gvir and Smotrich who don’t want any hostage deal. Though they’ll win out because the Israelis will not stop carpet bombing Gaza.
This is nothing new.
From this, this is what I was mentioning to @42 Monks
But the administration remains wary about Netanyahu’s endgame and seeming lack of a plan for what to do once Hamas is defeated. There was no sense that the pause would turn into a lengthier cease-fire, a senior administration official said. And there was some concern in the administration about an unintended consequence of the pause: that it would allow journalists broader access to Gaza and the opportunity to further illuminate the devastation there and turn public opinion on Israel.
Israel is unlikely to ramp down its military operation in Gaza when the temporary pause ends, experts say. Israeli officials have vowed to continue the offensive until it destroys Hamas, arguing in some cases that the campaign from the enclave’s north to the south helped the hostage negotiations by making a halt more attractive.
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Json
Superstar
why did biden and the whole admin scramble to access the reserves just a few years back
U.S. sells oil reserves as Biden tackles pump prices ahead of elections
Quick version: "The White House had an added sense of urgency after the Saudi Arabia-led Organization of the Petroleum Exporting Countries rankled Biden by siding with Russia and agreeing to a production cut, prompting the president to declare that the U.S.-Saudi relationship needs a revaluation."
SA plays oil games to apply pressure for much, much pettier reasons even if short memories paint a different picture. shyt, they checked the US harder for Ukraine than they did for Israel too. All this shows just how little SA gives a fukk in regard to warcrimes while they're content to slide any Israel alignment further down the calendar.
And there's way too many folks trying to boost Lebanon like they ain't been scrambling to salvage their economy since the start of the decade. Sending folks to die on the border could be seen as a way to diminish manpower that could be spun up for another coup attempt considering how paranoia has taken over after the bottom fell out of their banking if anything.
context negro.
Biden/Ukraine are going to long term war against one of the largest oil/ energy producers. Biden is trying to calm oil markets so tensions do’t fly internationally.
Saudis aren’t the opponents here. They would be disrupting the oil market for something that doesn’t involve them inflaming tension internationally,
Israel is a small country that American oil reserves can handle no problem. Plus you have easier access to get to them where as Ukraine was on a two front antagonist. You ain’t going to squeeze them based on the scenario you are pushing. Saudi would just end of hurting the oil market of his ME allies which would weaken his position based on the what you are trying to say is their advantage to end things quickly.
Like I said. Oil market don’t work like that.
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So we happy about the hostages or naw?? Tell me the next move HL. Tell me what’s acceptable to feel next 