The Official Israel-Gaza Thread
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What historical claim? Seeing that the Semetic people settled in that area prior to Judaism. Some went on to become followers of Judaism, others pagan and then eventually Muslim.
So if it's ethnic historical claim, than all Semitic people have a claim to that land. It's only when you introduce religion, and the culture that stems from that religion, that a clear divide is shown.
My point is proven, it is rooted in religion. To argue otherwise would be to argue that Arabs have historical claim to that land as well.
I think it's not just spies who're lured by incentives, I think some of these Palestinian factions are happy to use Israel against other factions while decrying the Israeli actions in public
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you know we can sit on message boards and talk all day but what's going on in these situations is usually a lot more intricate than we understand
Outright defeat of Israel by Hamas is not going to happen I and others will admit that. For various reasons the main one being the obvious American funded military might of Israel. If Hamas was fully backed by let say a Russia or China this would be a different story but that's a whole other conversation. The battle in Gaza has always been one of continuous resistance against the occupation. In that sense they have achieved victory in my eyes. For this exact same reason though , continuous resistance there will never be peace in that region. The Palestinians will never bow in fear to there oppressors like so many other countries around the world have done with the U.S, they will ALWAYS fight like is happening in Iraq and like has happened in Afghanistan for hundreds of years.
What historical claim? Seeing that the Semetic people settled in that area prior to Judaism. Some went on to become followers of Judaism, others pagan and then eventually Muslim.
So if it's ethnic historical claim, than all Semitic people have a claim to that land. It's only when you introduce religion, and the culture that stems from that religion, that a clear divide is shown.
My point is proven, it is rooted in religion. To argue otherwise would be to argue that Arabs have historical claim to that land as well.
Maybe their historical claim was America..the land of the free (for being liberated)..give them montana or alaska
newarkhiphop let's be real though if Fatah was in control of Gaza things would be in a different place
the only thing Israel can really want that they don't already have in Gaza is for these guys to "move out" and neither Hamas nor Fatah would accept that just as they haven't for decades. Meanwhile Hamas is antagonizing people (including most Arabs) needlessly
the only thing Israel can really want that they don't already have in Gaza is for these guys to "move out" and neither Hamas nor Fatah would accept that just as they haven't for decades. Meanwhile Hamas is antagonizing people (including most Arabs) needlessly
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What historical claim? Seeing that the Semetic people settled in that area prior to Judaism. Some went on to become followers of Judaism, others pagan and then eventually Muslim.
So if it's ethnic historical claim, than all Semitic people have a claim to that land. It's only when you introduce religion, and the culture that stems from that religion, that a clear divide is shown.
My point is proven, it is rooted in religion. To argue otherwise would be to argue that Arabs have historical claim to that land as well.
Its a historical claim because their ancestors lived there for generations.
Why their ancestors lived there is 100% irrelevant to the fact that they were using history -- not religion -- to make their claim. It doesn't change the fact that they were anti-theists.
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Except that the Palestinians are being abused left and right by Hamas on a regular basis
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But their ancestors were Semitic people, which Arabs (and by extention of labels, Palestinians and Muslims) are a part of.
Why are you denying scientific and anthropological evidence?
Different place how?
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Yes, and Arabs had plenty of countries already so I'm not sure what your point is. Their ancestors being Semites does not mean that they weren't going to seek independent rule.
the West Bank is fukked up but at least it's not blockaded, you know? the PA is out there trolling the US at the UN meanwhile Hamas and Israel are just fighting for no reason... Hamas will never be neutralized and Israel won't either, so.. what's the point of the fighting
Alaska had a territorial pushes in 46 as legislation..it coulda been added on as an earmark...damnn..
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The point from Israel's side is to get Hamas to stop terrorizing its citizens. The point from Hamas's side is to quench their thirst for Jewish blood.
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