Evertoni can see lukaku making that permament switch to ball with martinez, he'll def be first choice and would thrive with that type of confidence.
too good for Everton. Next you gon' say Tottenham 
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too good for Everton. Next you gon' say Tottenham 
multiple times, inspirational, interesting, etcAny of you brehs read/watched Into the Wild?
but did I go out and become a better person? ..
Interesting? Yeah, definitely.multiple times, inspirational, interesting, etc
but did I go out and become a better person? ..
Inspirational? I don't see it.
I think he was mentally ill and desperately needed help.
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I was so wrong about Lukaku. I can only think once Ba dug his heels in - and to be fair to him he had every right to do so considering he was signed just 8 months ago - moving Lukaku out on loan for a year made the most sense. Torres is here to stay, nobody else is going near that contract, he's like a fooking ball and chain.
Good move for him to develop his skills because West Brom just played the counter-attack. Everton dominate the ball so he has to learn how to work with less space and intricate build-up.
I give him until 2015 to be first choice at the Chels. That's two years for him to develop his game by which time he'll only be 23, there's no rush.
They weren't imposters.
Utd had the most shambolic summer of all time.
Turned down by everybody half decent and ended up overpaying for a club-footed oaf on deadline day in a panic.
But he's fugly tho
I was really worried about United this in a way. Fergie has the pulling power but felt they would go in hard for Moyes' first summer. Looks like all there last minute moves were rushed. The way Cesc played them was painful to watch even as a fan of a rival club.
Good read on the Ozil deal
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...ne-phone-call-from-manager-Arsene-Wenger.html
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Crazier shyt has happened, wouldnt be impossible for him to move to everton. also its been well documented that romelu hates avb, him moving here will neveeeeer be an option. in any case were about to overspend for benteke next summer
They weren't imposters. They were Bilbao based lawyers representing Herrera. They also represented Javi Martinez(who went to Bayern). They were just waiting for United to send the money so they could pay the fee. I think the bigger problem was the 45% tax fee, united would have had to pay which would pushed the fee to 54-55 million pounds.
Bayern practically had to go through the Financial Council to force Bilbao to sell Martinez
EDIT: From sid lowe
Ander Herrera's Manchester United move: what made the deal collapse
• Three lawyers were not imposters, Spanish league sources say
• Instead legal complexity of buyout clauses led to withdrawal
- Sid Lowe in Madrid
- The Guardian, Tuesday 3 September 2013 15.45 EDT
Manchester United's bid for Ander Herrera, left, foundered on the complexities of Spanish players' buy-out clauses. Photograph: Action Images / Pool Pic/Action Images
Manchester United missed out on signing the Athletic Bilbao midfielder Ander Herrera not because the deal was hijacked by "imposters", but due to their failure to understand the complexities of Spanish buy-out clauses. The Guardian understands that the club were not prepared to risk testing the legal framework of the system and pulled out of the deal, later seeking to distance themselves from another unsuccessful bid by claiming the lawyers were "not acting on their behalf". Yet according to well-placed sources at the Spanish league, the three men who visited their offices were indeed working for United.
Rodrigo García Lucas, Alvaro Reig Gurrea and Guillermo Gutiérrez were photographed entering the league's offices on Monday afternoon, with less than 12 hours to go in the transfer window. The three men represent the Spanish law firm Laffer, which oversaw Bayern Munich's successful move for Javi Martínez. That deal was completed by paying the buyout clause, against the wishes of Athletic Bilbao.
It is understood the lawyers had been instructed by United to attempt to find a resolution to the transfer and, according to sources at the Spanish league, did so with the formal authorisation from Manchester United.
Herrera's agents were not directly involved in the operation and nor were Athletic Bilbao; they later confirmed to the league that they would seek to block the move, refusing to accept the transfer of money.
The lawyers did not deposit the €36m stipulated in the clause and were not able to meet the necessary requirements as far as documentation was concerned but they did hold talks with league officials. They departed over an hour later citing "bureaucratic difficulties".
They later briefed United as to the difficulties of closing a deal so late in the window; they could not guarantee that it would be completed successfully and without subsequent risks. The Martínez deal, by contrast, had been put together over more than a month.
Faced with the uncertainty and potentially extra costs involved in tax, United decided not to proceed, thereby forcing Herrera to stay in Spain, the sources state. United had told the midfielder to be prepared in the event of a deal going through. Once the deal collapsed, United claimed that the three men had nothing to do with them.
Spain's official buyout clauses are complex and United appeared not to be fully aware of the difficulties inherent in using them. In principle, it is the player, not the buying club, who is supposed to deposit the money with the Spanish football authorities.
However, Manchester United insiders again insisted on Tuesday night that the lawyers were not working directly for them and the deal collapsed at an early stage because they were not prepared to meet the €36m buyout fee.
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