Essential The Official Football (Soccer) Thread - We are SO back, the Premier League returns!

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With this being pushed by the American owners and them wanting it like American sports with closed league, no promotion or relegation

Do you think they will want to scrap how we buy and sell players aswell and have it like you do over there with trade offs etc ?

Of course they will. Why spend money when you can swap contracts. Swap shyt for shyt. Agnelli said something about the big clubs not going after each other players or some shyt.

Champions League clubs would be BANNED from signing each others' players under plans being discussed | Daily Mail Online
 

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With this being pushed by the American owners and them wanting it like American sports with closed league, no promotion or relegation

Do you think they will want to scrap how we buy and sell players aswell and have it like you do over there with trade offs etc ?

I can see them introducing a wage cap before they implement trades/drafts. It would be difficult for them operate with trades/drafts within the ESL and then have to deal with transfers with every other team in the world.
 

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When it was Rashford’s cause and taking a knee it was keep politics out of football, now the politicians are running in. :mjlol:

With this being pushed by the American owners and them wanting it like American sports with closed league, no promotion or relegation

Do you think they will want to scrap how we buy and sell players aswell and have it like you do over there with trade offs etc ?

It’s going to change. Less €200M transfers, more swaps, wouldn’t even be surprised if they did a draft.

I think players will run down their contracts more.
 

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With this being pushed by the American owners and them wanting it like American sports with closed league, no promotion or relegation

Do you think they will want to scrap how we buy and sell players aswell and have it like you do over there with trade offs etc ?


of course. This will also open the door to more American investment. Look at the quotes from Robert Kraft in this article.

Kraft: 'I'd rather give to charity than invest in EPL' - CNN
 

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Unfortunately fans have Stockholm Syndrome. But if Domestic fans are serious they need not to buy season tickets not buy merchandise and hurt these clubs. These owners have shown their contempt for you it's about time you show it for them by hurting them where it hurts their pockets. Obviously like I said previously they can make this lost revenue up with their sporting roadshow but the domestic fans of these clubs can still show defiance.
English fans bark the loudest and end up spreading their cheeks and lubing themselves up. We been seeing this since Thatcher put them in cages. They won’t do shyt.

Look at the contempt Arsenal ticket holders had at the club for the fans protesting rising prices a few years ago. Those protesting fans still went to the matches. Look at Newcastle’s pathetic protests against Ashley.

The fans only hope is Germany.
 
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I dont even think the NFL system is bad per se. Just that it works in North America because there are only a handful of pro teams ultimately and the way the US structures its sports is about franchises rather than grassroots clubs. The Sonics leaving Seattle is a perfect example.

There are probably like a thousand pro footy teams in the UEFA so the promotion/relegation system is the only way to make things work.

And the gall of the proposal to schedule those games mid week thinking that leagues will bend over and keem them playing in the league on week ends :heh: They know they need domestic leagues otherwise it's a mid week circus with no meaning at all.

Why would clubs like Leicester or Napoli accept to be donkeys and play in a league where some of the clubs gets preferential treatment and no matter if they finish last or first they get to play in their closed league for billions.

Ban those 12 from playing in domestic leagues is the only rational option. Get them to fully commit to the ESL.
 

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As I said in another post, the only leverage UEFA and the respective FAs have against these clubs is banning the players from domestic and international play.

Some players may be upset about that, but at the end of the day, these are professionals. If they can expect a pay raise while playing increased competition week in week out in a new format, they may definitely be down for it.

People keep missing the point. The appeal of the Champions League is just that; the storied and established clubs of Europe battling it out to see who is the best. This format gives them a chance to do that, but in a more complete league fashion. Clubs are businesses. They are only members of their respect FAs insofar as they are contracted to their leagues. There is nothing stopping them from hightailing it and forming a new league. Do you really think a league of the top 20 clubs in the world will not be more watched than a league without them?

By year 3 or 5 of the competition, I do believe it, yes. The reason is simple, only 5 of the clubs so far confirmed for the Superleague are actually considered the best in the world and have global appeal. And what makes them have that global appeal is the fact they dominate in their countries and have storied rivalries there. That's why they get the best player and spend so much money.

Once you take domestic play out of the equation, you take away the illusion of meritocracy for fans in each country. And most importantly, without a domestic competition, the large majority of clubs in the Superleague lose all of their appeal. Who is gonna give a shyt about Arsenal or a Milan that hasn't done shyt in a decade playing Real Madrid in 2025 when they do it every year? There's no novelty to it anymore and there's nothing that proves those are the best clubs in Europe because they literally wouldn't be competing in their countries. A club like Manchester City became bigger because it started to win in their country, you take that away from them and they become a hollow "big" club because they haven't won shyt in Europe.

That's why they rely so much on UEFA/FIFA letting them stay in their FA's competitions. Without that shyt this superleague will not be a Champion's League 2.0, it's gonna be Entitled 5 Clubs play against each other like it's an international friendly tournament in a FIFA video game. The project can't stand on it's own and these big clubs are betting on being so big that the rest of the continent will bow down to them and let them have their cake and eat it too. If they succeed, good for them, but if they are left by their own devices, they will fail sooner rather than later.
 
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