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Marvel put The Punisher in the Thunderbolts :snoop:

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At least they didn't put him in the avengers

I'm curious to see how Agent Venom and Punisher work together. The venom comics have been nice lately

It's not that much of a stretch with him being there since Thunderbolts is now more of a black ops team.
 

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im still type skeptical of how marvel is gonna treat panther, i mean im glad he'll somewhat be the center of new avengers, but puttin namor on the same team with him after what he did 2 wakanda?? unless panther needs namor and plans on manipulatin the whole team 2 suit his needs i just can't see it, but hickman from what i heard is a capable writer, he also respects the panther so maybe this charade is well within panthers chessboard. im glad the illuminati gets their own book tho 2, the shyt they should be gettin into should be in the realm of stormwatch/authority/planetary all wrapped in 1.................so im anticipatin this shyt when it drops :ehh:

































also, does marvelNOW take a shyt on dc's nu52 already?? from the team rosters that have been revealed already u can tell their shakin shyt up a bit, plus bridging the mutant world with the superheroes is prolly the best thing they could of done from a business standpoint. marvel should really try not 2 drop the ball on this 1
 

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I know nothing about marvel comics but what's the difference between all these avengers? There's Avengers, new avengers, and secret avengers? And now they are adding uncanny avengers will that be 4 avenger teams?

The rosters are different as are the types of stories they'll be telling....The link in the post you quoted has the writer detailing what will make his Avengers books unique.
 
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still dont understand the marvel now concept... is it a complete reboot ala new 52? or is it just a reshuffling of their status quo/teams?
 

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still dont understand the marvel now concept... is it a complete reboot ala new 52? or is it just a reshuffling of there status quo/teams?

post avengers vs x-men.

think of it like when marvel was post civil war and House of M. Now mutants are back and avengers care about mutants.

never understood why they never took and interest before though because in most futures mutants run shyt over humans.
 
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post avengers vs x-men.

think of it like when marvel was post civil war and House of M. Now mutants are back and avengers care about mutants.

never understood why they never took and interest before though because in most futures mutants run shyt over humans.

will their current monthlies continue or are those starting at #1 again?
 

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will their current monthlies continue or are those starting at #1 again?


just to increase sales

amazing spiderman is going back to number 1 again also. Some crap about a new beginning but collectors always buy number 1 issues so. :childplease: They are just going to change it again when it gets close to 800.
 
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just to increase sales

amazing spiderman is going back to number 1 again also. Some crap about a new beginning but collectors always buy number 1 issues so. :childplease: They are just going to change it again when it gets close to 800.

:whoa:

i might have to cop some new #1 's then... :whoo:

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:whoa:

i might have to cop some new #1 's then... :whoo:

:snoop:

:sadbron:


unless you are a serious collector i would not recommend buying number 1 issues anymore. The Graphic Novel has killed collecting.

Unless you got the dough to pay for the alternative cover. :whistle:
 
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Marvel are fukkboys for the way they treated Rucka

The dirty little secret is that those Image guys made all these deals and almost to a man failed to deliver. They burnt Hollywood horribly on letting comics talent actually be a part of the production of the material they sold.

I’ve reached the end of my Work For Hire rope. I’m enjoying The Punisher, but that’s not mine, it’s Marvel’s, and l knew that going in. I have spent a lot of my comics career in service of other masters, – and I’ve had enough of that for now. I’m sick to death of the way the Big Two treat people.

I gave seven very good years to DC and they took gross advantage of me. That’s partially my fault, but not entirely. At this point, I see no reason why I should have to put up with that, I can sink or swim on my own.

You are seeing a grotesque Hollywoodisation of the two main companies. There was at least a period where I felt that the way they wanted to make money was by telling the best story they could; now the quality of the work matters less than that the book comes out. There is far less a desire to see good work be done.

Dan DiDio has gone on record, and this is the same man that said Gotham Central would never be cancelled as long as he was there, telling people what a great book Gotham Central was, but it never made any money.

Well, take a look at your trade sales! That book has made nothing but money as a trade. What I’m now being told is, ”lt was never worth anything to us anyway.”So, you know what? They can stop selling the Batwoman: Elegy trade and stop selling the Wonder Woman trades and everything else I’ve done, because clearly I’ve not done anything of service and those guys aren’t making any money off me.

Right now, where the market is, I have no patience for it.

My run on Punisher ends on #16, and we are then doing a five-issue mini called War Zone and then I’m done. That’s it! The Powers-That-Be at Marvel, without talking to me, decreed that he’s going to join a team on another book.

That’s their choice, they own him, but I don’t have to be happy about it. I am glad I had the opportunity to work on the character and I’m proud of the work I’ve done.

Despite what the publishers say, their interest in the talent is minimal now, the interest is only in promoting the financial worth of their properties. That was not the case as of two or three years ago, when there was an ‘Exclusives war’, but that’s all gone by the wayside now. Ultimately, they are saying, “We don’t need you,’ because they can get a million more just like you.

For every person who passes on the opportunity to write Spider-Man or Superman, I guarantee there are 5000 hungry writers who would give their eye-teeth to do it. But just because they want to do it, it doesn’t mean they are capable of doing it. It comes down entirely to Warner Bros. realising what they owned but had not exploited. At the end of the Harry Potter franchise, they went “Oh, crap, we need something else fast’, looked over at Marvel’s very very successful film program.

DC are playing catch up with Marvel, because of things like The Avengers breaking six hundred million domestic. That’s a lot of money, I don’t begrudge Warner Bros wanting to make bank it would be like blaming a shark for eating, but l do think that the pursuit of that financial windfall bears a detrimental effect on the creative and artistic side.

Greg Rucka On Leaving Marvel And DC Behind | Bleeding Cool Comic Book, Movies and TV News and Rumors
 

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Marvel are fukkboys for the way they treated Rucka

The dirty little secret is that those Image guys made all these deals and almost to a man failed to deliver. They burnt Hollywood horribly on letting comics talent actually be a part of the production of the material they sold.

I’ve reached the end of my Work For Hire rope. I’m enjoying The Punisher, but that’s not mine, it’s Marvel’s, and l knew that going in. I have spent a lot of my comics career in service of other masters, – and I’ve had enough of that for now. I’m sick to death of the way the Big Two treat people.

I gave seven very good years to DC and they took gross advantage of me. That’s partially my fault, but not entirely. At this point, I see no reason why I should have to put up with that, I can sink or swim on my own.

You are seeing a grotesque Hollywoodisation of the two main companies. There was at least a period where I felt that the way they wanted to make money was by telling the best story they could; now the quality of the work matters less than that the book comes out. There is far less a desire to see good work be done.

Dan DiDio has gone on record, and this is the same man that said Gotham Central would never be cancelled as long as he was there, telling people what a great book Gotham Central was, but it never made any money.

Well, take a look at your trade sales! That book has made nothing but money as a trade. What I’m now being told is, ”lt was never worth anything to us anyway.”So, you know what? They can stop selling the Batwoman: Elegy trade and stop selling the Wonder Woman trades and everything else I’ve done, because clearly I’ve not done anything of service and those guys aren’t making any money off me.

Right now, where the market is, I have no patience for it.

My run on Punisher ends on #16, and we are then doing a five-issue mini called War Zone and then I’m done. That’s it! The Powers-That-Be at Marvel, without talking to me, decreed that he’s going to join a team on another book.

That’s their choice, they own him, but I don’t have to be happy about it. I am glad I had the opportunity to work on the character and I’m proud of the work I’ve done.

Despite what the publishers say, their interest in the talent is minimal now, the interest is only in promoting the financial worth of their properties. That was not the case as of two or three years ago, when there was an ‘Exclusives war’, but that’s all gone by the wayside now. Ultimately, they are saying, “We don’t need you,’ because they can get a million more just like you.

For every person who passes on the opportunity to write Spider-Man or Superman, I guarantee there are 5000 hungry writers who would give their eye-teeth to do it. But just because they want to do it, it doesn’t mean they are capable of doing it. It comes down entirely to Warner Bros. realising what they owned but had not exploited. At the end of the Harry Potter franchise, they went “Oh, crap, we need something else fast’, looked over at Marvel’s very very successful film program.

DC are playing catch up with Marvel, because of things like The Avengers breaking six hundred million domestic. That’s a lot of money, I don’t begrudge Warner Bros wanting to make bank it would be like blaming a shark for eating, but l do think that the pursuit of that financial windfall bears a detrimental effect on the creative and artistic side.

Greg Rucka On Leaving Marvel And DC Behind | Bleeding Cool Comic Book, Movies and TV News and Rumors

The man has a real good point.
 
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