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Barring a surprise snikt? No.
Joker is the ultimate example of character/plot armor. I'm having a hard time thinking of any other character in fiction who is more protected.
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Barring a surprise snikt? No.
Joker is the ultimate example of character/plot armor. I'm having a hard time thinking of any other character in fiction who is more protected.
hell, the nature of the character even makes his fans create elaborate and nonsense ways for the character to not be offed!
Joker would just go to Manhattan and automatically know who Aunt May is?
Joker's REALLY gonna find non-powered/non-ninja friends to entrap so Wolverine would have to choose?
Even if he does, Wolverine isn't gonna track this dude down by scent or whatever and kill him?
Guess Juker would automatically join The Hand first.
Joker's gonna double cross a Marvel Villain and get away with it like he does in DC too, right.
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And Joker wouldn't last a second in the Marvel Universe unless he was dealing with Captain America or Peter Parker.
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And Joker wouldn't last a second in the Marvel Universe unless he was dealing with Captain America or Peter Parker.
ExodusNirvana
Change is inevitable...
Nohell, the nature of the character even makes his fans create elaborate and nonsense ways for the character to not be offed!
Joker would just go to Manhattan and automatically know who Aunt May is?
Joker's REALLY gonna find non-powered/non-ninja friends to entrap so Wolverine would have to choose?
Even if he does, Wolverine isn't gonna track this dude down by scent or whatever and kill him?
Guess Juker would automatically join The Hand first.
Joker's gonna double cross a Marvel Villain and get away with it like he does in DC too, right.
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Yes
Batman finds Joker fairly easily all the time
No but he would have a very future oriented plan
And villains get double crossed every day b
No
Yes
Batman finds Joker fairly easily all the time
No but he would have a very future oriented plan
And villains get double crossed every day b
homie, Joker's flat out said that 3/4 of the fun of fukking with Batman and Batman only is the fact that Batman will only beat him up and throw him in Arkham, which he'll escape so he can troll him some more.
Hell, I halfway feel like no one wants to kill Joker cause they're afraid of what Batman would do to them. lmao
Marvel don't play that shyt. They would HAVE to shoehorn him in as a Spiderman villain for him to look anywhere NEAR that effective.
He wouldn't even be Owl status. He'd be a Power Pack villain.
Started reading The Ultimates from the scratch
@ Pym and Cap
Giant Man and Hulk got it hard
those early issues were great, right. The Pym/Cap fight was waay more satisfying than I thought it would be.
ExodusNirvana
Change is inevitable...
As far as I know Reed Richards has not killed Doom despite having many chances, Cap has not killed Red Skull despite having many chances, Daredevil has not killed Kingpin despite having many chances, etc.
Reed can't kill Doom. You can't even arrest Doom. Doom runs a country.
Cap not killing an enemy is a HORRIBLE, HORRIBLE example.
Daredevil HAS attempted to kill The Kingpin. Kingpin beat dat ass, dressed him up as a wino, put him in a cab and dumped him in the river.
Why don't you hand pick some more Marvel heroes that you feel wont kill so you can justify Joker running shyt there?
and besides, do yo REALLY feel like Joker is a on the same level as Villains that
1. Run their own countries and are dangerous enough for people like Thanos to keep under 24 hour watch "just in case"
2. Were Hitler's right hand man
3. Off and on is the DE FACTO head of organized crime on Marvel's East Coast?
1. Run their own countries and are dangerous enough for people like Thanos to keep under 24 hour watch "just in case"
2. Were Hitler's right hand man
3. Off and on is the DE FACTO head of organized crime on Marvel's East Coast?
Reed can't kill Doom. You can't even arrest Doom. Doom runs a country.
Cap not killing an enemy is a HORRIBLE, HORRIBLE example.
Daredevil HAS attempted to kill The Kingpin. Kingpin beat dat ass, dressed him up as a wino, put him in a cab and dumped him in the river.
Why don't you hand pick some more Marvel heroes that you feel wont kill so you can justify Joker running shyt there?
wait what happened with darewdevil what story was that? and with cap he would kill a villian he was a soldier him and wolverine kill i guess hand ,aim and them . im a joker fan when hes a wildcard type badguy and his unpredictability but ever since the storyline when he got myzpltyk powers in jla hes been running roughshod with his shenanigans.
that's old school. Karen Page sold Daredevil's secret identity to some dude for a hit of heroin. Dude took that info to The Kingpin...
Kingpin proceeded to fukk Daredevil's civilian life up over the course of 6 months (you know, the way everyone is saying Joker would do with the sooper dooper mind reading powers he would have when he went to Marvel or fought anyone other than the Bat Family
). Had him barred from being a lawyer, had the IRS take all his money, blew up his house, etc. etc.....
Matt snapped when he found out it was The Kingpin and went to kill him.
Kingpin beat the brakes off him, poured some liquor on him, put him in a cab and dumped the cab in the river to make it look like Matt's blind self got drunk and drove off a bridge.
You can read it in the "Born Again" trade.
I would love to know where this idea that Marvel is some badass place that DC villains wouldn't make it in. And if we are going to start talking about writers bending over backwards to make villains seem more special than they actually are I would just point everyone to the fact that Norman fukking Osborn was made into the greatest villain in the Marvel U and actually co-signed by the general public and the United States government despite his being a documented lunatic who dressed up like a Dungeons and Dragons cosplayer in his spare time.
As far as villains having issues with one another and pulling double crosses: Magneto tried to end The Red Skull's Nazi ass on one occasion, failed to get the job done and just decided to let that whole slaughtering of my family in concentration camp business slide. The Skull has been back in business for years but hasn't tried to get payback against Magneto.
The Skull has been fukking over Captain America since the 40s yet even when he was running around Europe with a gun during WWII Cap didn't kill Skull. Or Zemo or any of the other war time villains he still fights to this day.
The Incredible Hulk hasn't offed any of the villains that have been bothering him from the beginning and he is either clinically retarded or sociopathic depending on who is writing him each month.
Punisher has not killed any name brand costumed villains in his entire time being in existence.
Doom struts around the Marvel U like his shyt don't stink daring Reed Richards and any other hero to even look in his direction with a smirk on their face.
And since 90% of all Marvel villains (regardless of how disgusting their past behavior has been) seem to be turned into anti-heroes and accepted by the good guys, I would wager that Joker would be a member of the Avengers by his 5th year in the Marvel U and if they could retcon his ass a mutant he'd be running an X-Men squad by year 6.
And the fukking Hood, a loser in Wranglers and a Little Red Rididng Hood cape was for a time the #1 adversary of the Avengers making them look like morons for a couple years. The Hood. Just let that marinate for a second. The Hood. Owned. The. Avengers.
But The Joker wouldn't last in the Marvel Universe.
The Marvel fanboyism in this thread has been ridiculous from the jump but on this subject it is just out of hand.
Something special planned for Frank? Like what? He'd kill his entire family or something?
Frank Castle doesn't give a fukk and hasn't since that fateful day in Central Park. He'd pump the joker with lead and keep it moving. Real talk.
It's getting better and better as more reimagined characters are getting introduced. The last issue showed the new Dr. Fate and the issue before introduced Wonder Woman's daughter Fury along with our first indepth look at Steppenwolf.
And in the upcoming Earth 2 Annual #1 we are gonna get:
The new Earth 2 Batman!
I'm gonna assume that it's dikk Grayson or the E2 Damian.
As far as Fury goes, I guess they're not making her the daughter of Wonder Woman and Steve Trevor?