Essential The Official Coli Horror Film Thread: Discussion, Recommendations And Murder.

[Nicole0416_718_929_646212]

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...horror/psychological gem with Jeff Godlblum, Alicia Silverstone, and Rae Dawn Chong

Before Scream, there's alot of fogotten mid-90s horror joints

Facts. 90s- Early 2000s had a lot of underrated horror gems. Set the stage for our current movie genres.

 

[Nicole0416_718_929_646212]

I need to skip an afternoon at work to see this at the theater sans kids. SMILE is bodying the game right now, damn

Friday Box Office: ‘Smile’ Tops Again As ‘Bros’ Plunges 64%

'Smile' will drop just 24% in its second weekend, a shockingly strong hold for a horror movie. 'Ponniyin Selvan Part One' will drop 76% in weekend two.

www.forbes.com

Horror taking top notch spots at box offices and streams

 

[storyteller]

Hellraiser was solid, which is an improvement over most of the post-Hellraiser 2 movies. They cut a lot of the BDSM stuff that made Hellraiser unique, but tried to hang on to the whole "what would you do for something you desire" without it. They replaced the practical effects with CGI which allowed for some interesting concepts but didn't hit like the ole "jesus wept" moment or a few others. The Cenobites were cool, but didn't feel threatening enough to me in the latter acts and also didn't feel as memorable as the early iterations.

It wasn't bad, but it also was a Hellraiser movie that lacked the extra bite that Hellraiser had. Basically

Spoiler

Pinhead was more of a villain and less of a chaotic neutral looming threat.

Kills were done via threatening cutaway too often.

Characters weren't fleshed out enough to care about which is frustrating in such a long movie.

The box was too easy to solve and the stabby stuff didn't sell me beyond that opening blade through the entire hand part.

And the "desires" in this one was too tropey for me. One guy wants power, a girl wants her brother back, and someone requested sensation which is...a weird one that feels contrived for the sake of that cool contraption they came up with.

I'm disappointed. It's not a bad movie but it's too long just to be decent and I don't feel like it did anything that will have much lasting impact on the mythos of Hellraiser besides proving that Doug Bradley isn't the only person who can pull off a compelling Pinhead.

Just to throw in a positive, the way architecture shifted when people got pulled into the Cenobites world was pretty cool and had an uncanny valley feeling that was cool.

 

[Nicole0416_718_929_646212]

Finished watching Speak No Evil earlier. This movie is fukked, but I dug the overall message. Director meant it when he said he wanted to make the most unpleasant experience possible. It basically illustrated my thoughts on what would happen if I continuously ignored my gut instincts.

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What makes this film even more infuriating is how the hosts provide the parents with a plethora of opportunities to escape, but them dumbos missed out on or blatantly ignored such creases.

They’re very compliant, even in response to their own child. Agnes got me all the way fukked up. There’s no way I’m headed back to that couple’s house to search for a plush rabbit.

The scene when the unthinkable happens (the mutilation)…I legit felt sick to my stomach and would’ve spat out my drink if I had one. It’s very plausible for people to react like these two did due shock and utter hopelessness. Makes me wonder what the audience reception was like at the theaters and festivals.

It’s wonderfully acted despite the dumb decisions the main characters keep making. The tension building in this actually makes me want to watch it again sometime. I’m skipping out on the last act though.

When I’m watching movies that involve children and parents situations; I put myself in the role of the character- as a mother, at a certain point my motherly instinct would have kicked in and took over, which made this movie frustrating asf to watch with the increasingly dumbass decisions that were made. Like she listened to NOTHING her intuition told her and the father had no spine . Idiot. First of all, going to a remote area in unfamiliar territory with a couple that you only recently met is irresponsible as hell. Not only that - but FOR AN ENTIRE WEEKEND. The lack of situational awareness was so sooooooo ignorant and dismissive.

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the part where they “escaped” and turned around to get the stuffed animal was it for me- and when they get back to the house, only to have it in the car the entire time.

 

[Lootpack]

When I’m watching movies that involve children and parents situations; I put myself in the role of the character- as a mother, at a certain point my motherly instinct would have kicked in and took over, which made this movie frustrating asf to watch with the increasingly dumbass decisions that were made. Like she listened to NOTHING her intuition told her and the father had no spine . Idiot. First of all, going to a remote area in unfamiliar territory with a couple that you only recently met is irresponsible as hell. Not only that - but FOR AN ENTIRE WEEKEND. The lack of situational awareness was so sooooooo ignorant and dismissive.

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the part where they “escaped” and turned around to get the stuffed animal was it for me- and when they get back to the house, only to have it in the car the entire time.

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Definitely a very frustrating film to watch, and at some point I felt like they deserved to go out like that. How many hazard situations can you choose to ignore before fate hits you, right?

Louise at the very least pointed things out as red flags throughout, but even she still complied. Bjorn never disclosed to his wife about the horrid things he saw in the hut. These two have big issues with communicating and this movie would’ve ended a lot earlier if that wasn’t the case.

I value this film highly but I also can’t blame others who immediately throw it to the bushes. The director blatantly ignored logic to get his point across. Things got silly too, like finding out the psycho couple had been doing the same thing to many other families. I’ve seen this played out before in Get Out, and it would’ve been creepier here had it been minimized to one other family.

You would think one of those families played the trip a lot smarter than Bjorn and Louise, lol.

 

[8WON6]

I'm running back th V/H/S series. Finished 1 and 2 last night. Still great. That story about the film crew visiting the asian cult still stands out as the something that could have been a full length film. Going to try to knock out Viral tonight.


edit: and I watched Hellraiser 2022 yesterday. it was average at best. Every single character was unlikeable.

 

[8WON6]

Caught Host (2020) earlier today and thoroughly enjoyed it. The scares were fun, with plenty of subtle details roaming in the background where if you blink once, you’ll miss them. Acting was pretty solid for a bunch of unknowns. With the amount of thrills packed into only 57 min, it’s still a well-paced flick that makes for an easy commitment.

Wish I paid this more attention during the year it dropped, but I guess I just wanted no parts of films with ZOOM calls at the time. It’s a little easier to deal with now, lol.

I actually watched that again about 3 weeks ago. I loved it. There was another zoom movie i saw too i gotta find the name of it.

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[Nicole0416_718_929_646212]

BUNKER - upcoming trailer drop

 

[Nicole0416_718_929_646212]

 

[Straw Hat Luffy]

Hellraiser was solid, which is an improvement over most of the post-Hellraiser 2 movies. They cut a lot of the BDSM stuff that made Hellraiser unique, but tried to hang on to the whole "what would you do for something you desire" without it. They replaced the practical effects with CGI which allowed for some interesting concepts but didn't hit like the ole "jesus wept" moment or a few others. The Cenobites were cool, but didn't feel threatening enough to me in the latter acts and also didn't feel as memorable as the early iterations.

It wasn't bad, but it also was a Hellraiser movie that lacked the extra bite that Hellraiser had. Basically

Spoiler

Pinhead was more of a villain and less of a chaotic neutral looming threat.

Kills were done via threatening cutaway too often.

Characters weren't fleshed out enough to care about which is frustrating in such a long movie.

The box was too easy to solve and the stabby stuff didn't sell me beyond that opening blade through the entire hand part.

And the "desires" in this one was too tropey for me. One guy wants power, a girl wants her brother back, and someone requested sensation which is...a weird one that feels contrived for the sake of that cool contraption they came up with.

I'm disappointed. It's not a bad movie but it's too long just to be decent and I don't feel like it did anything that will have much lasting impact on the mythos of Hellraiser besides proving that Doug Bradley isn't the only person who can pull off a compelling Pinhead.

Just to throw in a positive, the way architecture shifted when people got pulled into the Cenobites world was pretty cool and had an uncanny valley feeling that was cool.

I'm disappointed that you are disappointed.

Personally, I say that the new movie is in discussion for the top 3 in being along the best Hellraiser movies. I have it above III and of course, the other two in the top 3 are the first two films.

I know having this film in the top three doesn't say much since most of the franchise is ass, but it means a lot to me from the standpoint of being a stan for the series.

This reminds me how I enjoyed IT parts I&II but a lot of people didn't.

But

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I agree with not liking Pinhead being the villain. This creative decision caused a ripple effect with a lot of other cons for the film. We know that in the original film, Frank and Julia are the villains and the themes are family betrayal and lust. Kirsty and the family go through significant character changes, along with a plot that we can identify with three acts that have progression, until the climax and end of the film.

The Cenobites being the main antagonist vetos what the original did for the characters and story; the characters have room to grow and the film can come to a reasonable conclusion. This new adaptation doesn't allow these options based on the creative decision. But I actually liked the cast for the film, and I especially liked Riley's character. Riley's drug habits and financial instability causing havoc for her brother is a good approach to keeping the family issues as a theme, but it's also modern and relatable for a lot of young adult Americans.

The issue with the Cenobites being the antagonist is there are no resolutions for the family conflict or Riley's drug issues. It's just everyone trying to escape from the Cenobites with no real moral lesson and from a viewer's standpoint, the only thing you get out of this is the puzzle is bad. The twist with Trevor and Roland was a nice touch, but the overall message falling short overshadows the film for that reason. And with that, nobody can actually flesh out as characters.

I do believe they did a good job with Riley it's just the fact that that major creative decision fukks the series. Roland could be argued to be an antagonist but he's a weak one, and he too is just trying to escape so can anyone blame him?

Of course, these Cenobites wouldn't match our expectations, but they're pretty damn good if you ask me. Jamie Clayton was the best part of the movie.
The other Cenobites are decent, they could have been directed/portrayed better though. And there weren't enough bars in the dialogue like there are in the original. But to be fair, Barker wrote and directed all that shyt and that's a high standard to live up to.

I didn't think the film was too long-- I remained invested in the film throughout without a moment feeling dull so that's a major plus. You do bring up a good point about this being too long for a film without an actual resolution/progression though. But I feel like this film will have a high replay value for what it is. I know I gave the new IT film props, but the replay value is so low based on how long it is. That's the definition of a film being way too long for its own good if you ask me.

 

[abominable1]

another VHS in the cut

'V/H/S/85' Announced With David Bruckner, Scott Derrickson & More Directing

Mike P. Nelson, Natasha Kermani & Gigi Saul Guerrero will also direct segments of the anthology horror film.

collider.com

 

[Lootpack]

another VHS in the cut

'V/H/S/85' Announced With David Bruckner, Scott Derrickson & More Directing

Mike P. Nelson, Natasha Kermani & Gigi Saul Guerrero will also direct segments of the anthology horror film.

collider.com

They got Derrickson.

 

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[Straw Hat Luffy]

I heard Nicole got whacked

 

[storyteller]

I'm disappointed that you are disappointed.

Personally, I say that the new movie is in discussion for the top 3 in being along the best Hellraiser movies. I have it above III and of course, the other two in the top 3 are the first two films.

I know having this film in the top three doesn't say much since most of the franchise is ass, but it means a lot to me from the standpoint of being a stan for the series.

This reminds me how I enjoyed IT parts I&II but a lot of people didn't.

But

Spoiler

I agree with not liking Pinhead being the villain. This creative decision caused a ripple effect with a lot of other cons for the film. We know that in the original film, Frank and Julia are the villains and the themes are family betrayal and lust. Kirsty and the family go through significant character changes, along with a plot that we can identify with three acts that have progression, until the climax and end of the film.

The Cenobites being the main antagonist vetos what the original did for the characters and story; the characters have room to grow and the film can come to a reasonable conclusion. This new adaptation doesn't allow these options based on the creative decision. But I actually liked the cast for the film, and I especially liked Riley's character. Riley's drug habits and financial instability causing havoc for her brother is a good approach to keeping the family issues as a theme, but it's also modern and relatable for a lot of young adult Americans.

The issue with the Cenobites being the antagonist is there are no resolutions for the family conflict or Riley's drug issues. It's just everyone trying to escape from the Cenobites with no real moral lesson and from a viewer's standpoint, the only thing you get out of this is the puzzle is bad. The twist with Trevor and Roland was a nice touch, but the overall message falling short overshadows the film for that reason. And with that, nobody can actually flesh out as characters.

I do believe they did a good job with Riley it's just the fact that that major creative decision fukks the series. Roland could be argued to be an antagonist but he's a weak one, and he too is just trying to escape so can anyone blame him?

Of course, these Cenobites wouldn't match our expectations, but they're pretty damn good if you ask me. Jamie Clayton was the best part of the movie.
The other Cenobites are decent, they could have been directed/portrayed better though. And there weren't enough bars in the dialogue like there are in the original. But to be fair, Barker wrote and directed all that shyt and that's a high standard to live up to.

I didn't think the film was too long-- I remained invested in the film throughout without a moment feeling dull so that's a major plus. You do bring up a good point about this being too long for a film without an actual resolution/progression though. But I feel like this film will have a high replay value for what it is. I know I gave the new IT film props, but the replay value is so low based on how long it is. That's the definition of a film being way too long for its own good if you ask me.

Fam, you really hit the nail on the head with my issues with the film and the lack of progress in that length of time. You're right that I should be more optimistic about it too though, because I agree that this is at least on par with Hellraiser 3 if not outright better. It's a good enough horror movie for me to suggest to friends and it works as an introduction to the Hellraiser universe for sure.

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Riley is a genuinely good lead. But between comparing her to Kirsty (my favorite final girl of all-time) and Mia from the new Evil Dead, I thought she fit my "it's okay but not great" feelings.

I cosign the twist being solid, though Trevor becomes a bit weaker as a result imo. The performances were mostly strong for what they were given, the brother's BF did a pretty good job too.

But that said, I think you're right on with It lacking replay value off run-time and I think this will end up like that. I'd imagine the big fans will still jump back to the original and Hellraiser 2, while more modern fans will throw on something with more popcorn value. I've got my fingers crossed that it drives a bigger push to make more with genuine budgets though. This was a solid remake, and it opens to door to someone coming in knocking a sequel out of the park.