The Official Coach Prime and the Colorado Buffaloes Thread

[Karume]

This new o line isn’t overrated tho that’s my point it’s a coaching issue scheme wise and also Deion not bringing in a real o line coach

define real O line coach. Loadholt has playing experience and he was an analyst at OU . that's all about him I am aware of.

 

[hashmander]

define real O line coach. Loadholt has playing experience and he was an analyst at OU . that's all about him I am aware of.

with P4 money colorado shouldn't have to hire first timers in an important coaching positions. loadholt should be getting his experience in the G5.

 

[Karume]

which P4 money colorado shouldn't have to hire first timers in an important coaching positions. loadholt should be getting his experience in the G5.

CU isn't a big money program, so they won't be able to hire anyone away from the Big 10 or SEC. As for G5 experience, that's what they did last year. Now the question might be: Would O'Boyle do better with seemingly better talent than he did last year?

 

[Bigwhite2498]

define real O line coach. Loadholt has playing experience and he was an analyst at OU . that's all about him I am aware of.

Lots of people have playing experience that does not make you a good coach and like you said he was an analyst not the actual o line coach. If Deion was serious about fixing his oline he would have went out looked at all the g5 schools and picked a guy who’s had good o lines there and has been coaching up guys not go and get an analyst who’s never run a practice at any level before or shown that he can actually develop guys. I know someone either loadholt pat or Deion is the problem because benson played RT last year allowed one sack you bring him in and you move him to guard???? Especially when you have Tyler Johnson there. And the worse part is they did it so that Tyler brown could play RT who is and always has been an guard

 

[Bigwhite2498]

This isn’t just one loss, this is them playing the exact same way week 1 and week 2. Charlie aside the coaching is awful. I rock with Prime but this is glaringly obvious. I’m still rocking with CU but I ain’t blaming the linemen this time. This is pure coaching.

Charlie shouldn’t even touch the field with the talent at RB they have

 

[Karume]

Lots of people have playing experience that does not make you a good coach and like you said he was an analyst not the actual o line coach. If Deion was serious about fixing his oline he would have went out looked at all the g5 schools and picked a guy who’s had good o lines there and has been coaching up guys not go and get an analyst who’s never run a practice at any level before or shown that he can actually develop guys. I know someone either loadholt pat or Deion is the problem because benson played RT last year allowed one sack you bring him in and you move him to guard???? Especially when you have Tyler Johnson there. And the worse part is they did it so that Tyler brown could play RT who is and always has been an guard

CP may have been turned of the G5 route because that's what they did last season with O'Boyle

 

[Left.A1]

This is grade tier glazing Deion they were good they wouldn’t have been ranked that high in the portal if they weren’t.

Outside of Tyler Johnson most of these guys weren't ranked that high in the portal... I don't know where you're getting your information lmao like why do you keep lying about shyt nikka? I just showed you based on data why they weren't that good... i can pull up their portal rankings to show you they weren’t good either …I can post all of their grades like I did for the other players.... Now if you don't want to believe that because you've already decided to close your eyes and ears to reality and make up your own facts God bless you brother but nothing that you've posted so far has been based on anything but what you've created in your head

Again why does he continue to have the same problem every year but it’s never his fault or the scheme he runs fault. Benson literally only allowed one sack at IU last year against better competition so yes he was actually good

You can't even name the “scheme” he runs...you definitely can't name what blocking scheme they're utilizing ...please stop using terms you heard on YouTube that you clearly don't understand…it doesn’t make you sound more knowledgeable bro bro.

Sacks aren't the only measure of quality line play...if you allow 36 pressures in one year you are not playing good period.... Just becaue the QB can get the ball out before allowing the sack doesn't mean you did your job as far as giving him enough time to get through his progressions... This is like rudimentary football understanding that you're struggling with and fighting against data...why it’s weird …

facts are facts …..Khalil was a turnstile at Indiana ….36 pressures allowed last season ….in a 12 game season that’s 3 times a game he’s getting his QB heated up …that’s not “good” …just repeating some shyt you heard doesn’t change the reality of actual on field production …59 overall grade is a backup player nikka ….he’s somehow actually improved since coming to CU

 

[hashmander]

CU isn't a big money program, so they won't be able to hire anyone away from the Big 10 or SEC. As for G5 experience, that's what they did last year. Now the question might be: Would O'Boyle do better with seemingly better talent than he did last year?

no one is expecting him to hire away some SEC or Big 10 OL coach. although with the nature of position coaches being on year to year contracts if you have history with the person and they know you're not going to fukk them over after a year you can actually get one. there is a big gap between SEC or Big 10 OL coach and analyst, he needs to mine that gap for coaching talent.

 

[Bigwhite2498]

CP may have been turned of the G5 route because that's what they did last season with O'Boyle

O’Boyle is at Northwestern now and their oline looks fine matter fact they ran for 120 yards against Duke with one rb 6 yards from 100 yards by himself and have allowed zero sacks. He was a scapegoat.

 

[Karume]

O’Boyle is at Northwestern now and their oline looks fine matter fact they ran for 120 yards against Duke with one rb 6 yards from 100 yards by himself and have allowed zero sacks. He was a scapegoat.

scape goat for what exactly? I will say that perhaps the issue was more talent than coaching in his case.

 

[Bigwhite2498]

Outside of Tyler Johnson most of these guys weren't ranked that high in the portal... I don't know where you're getting your information lmao like why so you keep lying about shyt nikka? I just showed you based on data why they weren't that good... I can post all of their grades like I did for the other players.... Now if you don't want to believe that because you've already decided to close your eyes and ears to reality and make up your own facts God bless you brother but nothing that you've posted so far has been based on anything but what you've created in your head

You can't even name the “scheme” he runs...you definitely can't name what blocking scheme they're utilizing ...please stop using terms you heard on YouTube that you clearly don't understand…it doesn’t make you sound more knowledgeable bro bro.

Sacks aren't the only measure of quality line play...if you allow 36 pressures in one year you are not playing good period.... Just becaue the QB can get the ball out before allowing the sack doesn't mean you did your job as far as giving him enough time to get through his progressions... This is like rudimentary football understanding that you're struggling with and fighting against data...why it’s weird …



facts are facts …..Khalil was a turnstile at Indiana ….36 pressures allowed last season ….in a 12 game season that’s 3 times a game he’s getting his QB heated up …that’s not “good” …just repeating some shyt you heard doesn’t change the reality of actual on field production …59 overall grade is a backup player nikka ….he’s somehow actually improved since coming to CU

That’s 3 pressures a game is that supposed to be bad. He only allowed 1 sack that is a fact. You are doing any and everything to shift blame from Deion and shedeur

 

[Bigwhite2498]

scape goat for what exactly? I will say that perhaps the issue was more talent than coaching in his case.

For how bad they looked. One it was year one and two the talent was not amazing and three the scheme was set up to fail

 

[Deafheaven]

As an outside observer thsi is a fascinating thread to browse.

Seemingly Deion is gods gift to coaching, is what I have gathered.

 

[Karume]

For how bad they looked. One it was year one and two the talent was amazing and three the scheme was set up to fail

you considered last year's OL talent amazing? based on what? and what do you mean the scheme was set up to fail?

 

[hashmander]

you considered last year's OL talent amazing? based on what? and what do you mean the scheme was set up to fail?

based on every other word around that, i think he mean "wasn't".