Essential The Official Boxing Random Thoughts Thread...All boxing heads ENTER.

[patscorpio]

Still waiting on your definition on what's a special fighter...

Pat opened the dictionary files on me but based on that he's special.

There's nothing about canelo I'd want to imitate and I can pull many receipts of myself since damn near the beginning of this forum saying the same damn things about him...that doesn't scream special fighter to me..it is what it is...but it's not too late for him to prove me wrong

 

[reservoirdogs]

There's nothing about canelo I'd want to imitate and I can pull many receipts of myself since damn near the beginning of this forum saying the same damn things about him...that doesn't scream special fighter to me..it is what it is...but it's not too late for him to prove me wrong

I can give it to you that he's not looking unbeatable like some other fighters out there, Loma, Crawford or Rigo but as you said it's still not too late to prove you wrong and I find surprising that you wouldn't want to imitate anything he does. I think his counter game, his combinations and his upper body movement are all great I'd definitely study those aspects of his game.

 

[reservoirdogs]

Oscar Valdez vs Carl Frampton next

would be nice

is it just a wish or you heard something?

 

[patscorpio]

I can give it to you that he's not looking unbeatable like some other fighters out there, Loma, Crawford or Rigo but as you said it's still not too late to prove you wrong and I find surprising that you wouldn't want to imitate anything he does. I think his counter game, his combinations and his upper body movement are all great I'd definitely study those aspects of his game.

not at all..all those things dont mean anything if you dont have the gas tank to execute..if anything id want to imitate GGG more...for all the talks of him being no frills...he reiterate the most important things to have in your arsenal...a jab...a hard effective jab plus solid fundamentals coupled with power..if you ask someone like for example lomachenko who he would imiitate..who do you think he would pick?

 

[Newzz]

what fighters would you say are special

I posted them already....Andre Ward, Guillermo Rigondeaux, & Vasyl Lomachenko.

Canelo ain't special

but a nikka who loses every time he steps up is special tho

This place is so trash now

It is trash, bc too many nikkas dont read posts no more..they just blindly comment looking for daps instead it seems.


Which one are you referring too? Ward, Rigo, or Loma? Being those are the only active fighters that have been labeled special in here by anyone, which one are you referring too as "a nikka who loses everytime he steps up is special tho"?

would be nice

is it just a wish or you heard something?

I read it.


Oscar Valdez vs Carl Frampton is trying to be made currently.

 

[patscorpio]

Oscar Valdez vs Carl Frampton is trying to be made currently.

depends if valdez gets by his title defense on friday of course (@mr. smoke weed)

 

[LauderdaleBoss]

not at all..all those things dont mean anything if you dont have the gas tank to execute..if anything id want to imitate GGG more...for all the talks of him being no frills...he reiterate the most important things to have in your arsenal...a jab...a hard effective jab plus solid fundamentals coupled with power..if you ask someone like for example lomachenko who he would imiitate..who do you think he would pick?

Exactly
the jab becomes meaningless once Godlovkin starts controlling and winning fights with it.

When everyone else does it, nikkas be like

 

[patscorpio]

Exactly
the jab becomes meaningless once Godlovkin starts controlling and winning fights with it.

When everyone else does it, nikkas be like

Right there are nikkas in here that stanned paulie malignaggi. .how the hell do you think he won his fights?

 

[Newzz]

Right there are nikkas in here that stanned paulie malignaggi. .how the hell do you think he won his fights?

Not only Malignaggi either, people in here stanned Klitschko as well, who only had 2 punches.....a jab and a straight right, and relied HEAVY on his jab


He spammed the jab button all night long & it was " Dr. Steel Hammer"


But now that Golovkin (who's signed to the Klitschkos) is showing that his jab is of the upper echelon also, we starting to hear rumblings in The Ring of "jabs don't matter" now huh?



Interesting

 

[reservoirdogs]

I posted them already....Andre Ward, Guillermo Rigondeaux, & Vasyl Lomachenko.










I read it.


Oscar Valdez vs Carl Frampton is trying to be made currently.

that would be a good fight

anyway I read last time who are the special fighters in your opinion I was just curious about the definition cause the word "special" in its own is kinda hazy and can mean different things to different people. If you're thinking of fighters who look unbeatable like Rigo, Loma or I would say TC too or fighters who not always looked unbeatable but only because they fought P4P top 5 opponent too otherwise looked unbeatable like Ward then you're right, Canelo is not special if that is the definition for special to you.

 

[reservoirdogs]

not at all..all those things dont mean anything if you dont have the gas tank to execute..if anything id want to imitate GGG more...for all the talks of him being no frills...he reiterate the most important things to have in your arsenal...a jab...a hard effective jab plus solid fundamentals coupled with power..if you ask someone like for example lomachenko who he would imiitate..who do you think he would pick?

idk breh... I didn't talk about completely mimic a fighter, that's a bs anyway, everybody should have their own style, if it's naturally the same as some other fighter's style which is almost sure give how many boxers were/are in the world then it's good but not like intentionally.

I talked about studying some element of a fighter's game. You can study Golovkin's jab and footwork with Canelo's counter punching and combinations at the same time

I doubt Loma would mimic any of them or what they do cause he has a completely different style, but if he would emulate something from any of them I'd rather imagine him studying some Canelo counters and combos than Golovkin's railroad jab and constant pressure, cause former ones just fit into his style better. Loma is not a particularly heavy handed guy, not a pressure fighter either. He has a nice snap and velocity in his punches if he wants to but not like a heavy handed fighter who could break people down with power jabs like Golovkin or Kovalev

 

[Newzz]

that would be a good fight

anyway I read last time who are the special fighters in your opinion I was just curious about the definition cause the word "special" in its own is kinda hazy and can mean different things to different people. If you're thinking of fighters who look unbeatable like Rigo, Loma or I would say TC too or fighters who not always looked unbeatable but only because they fought P4P top 5 opponent too otherwise looked unbeatable like Ward then you're right, Canelo is not special if that is the definition for special to you.

I told you already my definition Res....generational talent = special fighters.


What makes someone standout as "special" if they are on the same level of their peers, ya know?



"Special Fighters" are the best of the best, and they've proven it through high skill + dominance of anyone not on their tier.

 

[patscorpio]

The only one that's been on that jabs don't win fights wave for a min is @ChocolateGiddyUp ...obviously if he said that for Ggg-canelo I would disagree but I would respect it because he has been what with that view? Consistent

 

[patscorpio]

He controlled that round before that shot. wtf

This fukking gif kills me everytime I see it

 

[Newzz]

“I thought GGG won the fight. I'm not trying to sound like a sour puss or a guy who complains a lot but certain things are so adamant that it is kind of hard for you to not mention. If Canelo got a draw then I beat GGG," Jacobs stated.

“This is why I always stressed that they always wanted to make this fight and capitalize on this fight and it shows because a 118-110 scorecard lets you know their intentions, they are just going to do it again.

“These guys are not going to have a blemish on their record so a draw isn’t bad. I always thought that it was politics. I think that had something to do with my fight and the decision. I could be wrong. I don’t like to be one of those guys who likes to complain.

“Obviously I'm a fighter and my job is to get in there and do what I do - but if you want to know my immediate reaction, what I thought about the fight, I thought that it was fixed, I really did.”