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[mr. smoke weed]

Billy Joe Saunders' Mouth Writing Checks His Fists Refuse to Cash

Billy Joe Saunders has become a shining example of everything that is wrong with boxing today.
He’s a talker who refuses to become a walker.

The WBO middleweight champion will make the first defense of the title he won from Andy Lee last December when he tangles with relatively unknown Russian Artur Akavov on Oct. 22 at MotorpointArena in Cardiff, Wales, per Dan Rafael of ESPN.com.

This, apparently, is the one Saunders felt everyone was waiting for after seeing the last 10 months of his mouth running produce zero meaningful rounds.
The decision to face Akavov is an insult to the fans and shows the Brit simply isn’t serious about accepting the type of challenges he talks about whenever presented with a camera and a social media platform.

Akavov only carries one loss on his ledger—which came in 2012 against an opponent with four fights—but he doesn’t rate in the top 10 of the WBO’s most recent rankings (or that of any sanctioning body) and hasn’t fought a single round against world-class opposition.

But the Brit was hellbent on facing him.
Just look at the fights he turned down to get this one.
Saunders was offered a primo slot as the main support bout forCanelo Alvarez’s September 154-pound title showdown with Liam Smith on American pay-per-view before what turned out to be more than 50,000 fans at AT&T Stadium in Dallas.

Rafael reported at the time that it was dealer’s choice.
The champion was reportedly given his pick between veteran contenders Gabe Rosado, Willie Monroe Jr. and Curtis Stevens. None of them are world-beaters, and Saunders would be favored to defeat each one and had a pretty considerable back-end guarantee.
That guarantee included massive exposure to an American television audience and a possible chance to defend his belt against Canelo—the biggest commercial draw in the sport—in what figured to be the most lucrative start of his career.

Weigh that up for a second.
A winnable fight and exposure followed by the biggest star in the sport and a boatload of cash.
Not good enough. Get Saunders some anonymous Russian nobody has ever heard of before.
Make sense?

That’d be a terrible look for any fighter, but it’s particularly bad for a guy such as Saunders, who has been extremely vocal since winning his belt.
He briefly flirted with the idea of stepping up to challenge unified middleweight champion—and the sport’s resident wrecking ball—Gennady Golovkin before deciding a seven-figure payday was insufficient.

In his defense, how do you place a fair value on what’ll likely be just a few minutes of work on fight night and necessitate taking meals from a straw for a few weeks?

Saunders also posted a message via Twitter on Sept. 10, shortly afterGGG scored his 23rd consecutive knockout victory by forcing Kell Brook’s corner to pull the plug after its fighter suffered a broken eye socket (h/t the Sun).

He told him to pick a date and he'd be ready.

It’s a testament to how far his stock has fallen that few, if any, in the boxing media and fandom took his repeated reiterations that he wanted GGG seriously. It looked self-serving, and it was.

Instead, we get Akavov, who, no matter how much spin comes from Saunders or his promoter, Frank Warren, is wholly undeserving of a championship opportunity. But that won’t stop them from trying to pretend this fight is meaningful.

“This is Bill’s first fight in 10 months,” Warren said, per Rafael. “The Russian is a tough guy who is capable of making things awkward. Hopefully, Bill will shake off the ring rust with a successful defense to set up a superfight for early [in the new] year.”

It’s only his first fight in 10 months because he turned down challenge after challenge. It's not like it was an accident or he was hurt. He chose not to fight.
As it turns out, he ended up in exactly the fight he wanted—which says a lot—even if nobody else wanted it.

Fat boy being inconsistent again? No shock. Everyone knows BJS is a hoe, but since it affects triple g lets write an entire article about it!!

 

[#SOG_soldier]

Tyson fury




Told the fans to eat a dikk

 

[mr. smoke weed]

So boxers snorting coke is not even banned but smoking weed it is?

They should be able to do both at their discretion, neither is a PED

 

[GREENandYELLOW]

Fat boy being inconsistent again? No shock. Everyone knows BJS is a hoe, but since it affects triple g lets write an entire article about it!!

Found the article odd because it was written by Bleacher Report, yet used ESPN for all their "facts".

Any chance to call out BJS and show that he has legitimately ducked Canelo (and by proxy: Rosado, Stevens, and Monroe), GGG, and less publicized Danny Jacobs.

 

[GREENandYELLOW]

They should be able to do both at their discretion, neither is a PED

Especially weed, since it protects and supports the brain after trauma, plus can reduce inflammation, pain management, etc. Lots of benefits outside of getting high. One day they will realize it is far better and safer than prescription pain meds.

Edit: Should say they probably know all that, but maybe one day the money keeping weed illegal and other drugs/alcohol legal may change. One day...

 

[reservoirdogs]

They should be able to do both at their discretion, neither is a PED

true, cocaine is highly illegal though... unlike weed

 

[mr. smoke weed]

Especially weed, since it protects and supports the brain after trauma, plus can reduce inflammation, pain management, etc. Lots of benefits outside of getting high. One day they will realize it is far better and safer than prescription pain meds.

Edit: Should say they probably know all that, but maybe one day the money keeping weed illegal and other drugs/alcohol legal may change. One day...

Yea........I don't just say the weed thing because of my username. My ma would be crippled by now if I never got her blazin, so it's definitely for more than getting high.

I think that change is coming relatively soon friend. Now cocaine is dangerous, and can have you acting like a maniac, but shyt I don't see why it should be on the PED list unless you're snorting right before you hit the ring.

 

[firemanBk]

Lineal Champs are MUCH better than Organization belts imo bc they are based off of straight lineage, and if lineage has been broken, then it's re-started by a #1 vs #2 type matchup to determine the true King.



Being that Boxing DOES have multiple Champs that are recognized, then we have to accept them as Champions as well, but everyone knows the only true Champ in a division is the Lineal Champ (which is usually direct = to whoever the RING Champion is at the time)



It's the reason why no matter how many belts GGG wins, he'll never be THE MAN at 160, bc Canelo is Lineal Champ until he loses at 160 or leaves 160. Same with Kovalev at 175 and his 3 belts...he'll never be THE MAN at 175, bc Adonis Stevenson is Lineal Champ until he loses at 175 or leaves 175.

You're making my point for me. The fukk us that lineal belt worth if you've been fighting the competition that Adonis has been fighting? I understand there were roadblocks in place that kept the Krusher fight from happening but calling a guy 'the man' when he's out rhere fighting Tommy Karpency and Dmitry Sukhotsky (sp?) seems ridiculous. Hard to lose the lineal title when you're not fighting anyone worth a fukk

 

[Suspicious Dingo]

Especially weed, since it protects and supports the brain after trauma, plus can reduce inflammation, pain management, etc. Lots of benefits outside of getting high. One day they will realize it is far better and safer than prescription pain meds.

Edit: Should say they probably know all that, but maybe one day the money keeping weed illegal and other drugs/alcohol legal may change. One day...

shyt, if you can win a boxing match while stoned you deserve a medal IMO

 

[Black_Jesus]

If you dont have the RING belt, you aint LINEAL as far as im concerned..

 

[HeruDat1]

Come on man give my dude a fight we will tune in just for the fukkery

 

[Axum Ezana]

Come on man give my dude a fight we will tune in just for the fukkery

why cant a legit champ be this fun? fury almost was but hes a fukk up.

 

[Newzz]

IS DEMETRIUS ANDRADE THE MOST FEARED MAN IN BOXING?
03OCT2016 LUKIE KETELLE
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photo: Amanda Westcott / Showtime


Twenty-eight year old professional boxer, Demetrius “Boo Boo” Andrade (Providence, Rhode Island/pro record: 23-0, 16 KOs), a former WBO Light Middleweight Champion and a 2008 Olympian, last fought on June 11, 2016, in a Showtime televised appearance against tough title contender, Willie Nelson. In that fight, Andrade dominated Nelson with varied punch combinations, dropped him four times, and won by technical knockout at 1:38 of Round 12. In the past, Andrade’s boxing abilities created difficulties in finding elite opponents to fight him at 154 lbs. After dominating Nelson, the question must be asked if Andrade is now the most feared boxer in the super welterweight division.

Andrade’s next fight may be against Jack Culcay, the regular WBA Super Welterweight Champion at 154 lbs, a former Olympian, who tends to only fight in Germany under the Sauerland Promotion banner. Andrade fought Culcay in the amateur quarterfinals of the 2007 World Championships, and defeated him by unanimous decision. If the Culcay fight can’t be made, Andrade could face the winner of a potential fight between WBC champion and Al Haymon advisee, Jermell Charlo, and Don King-promoted fighter, Charles Hatley. On September 17, Mexican boxing superstar, Saul “Canelo” Alvarez defeated WBO titleholder, Liam Smith, by TKO, which could set up a potential matchup with Andrade if Alvarez remains in the 154 lb division. Cuban boxer and WBA Super Champion, Erislandy Lara, Puerto Rico’s Miguel Cotto, and England’s Kell Brook are also potential fights for Andrade.

Demetrius discussed the regular WBA champ at 154 lbs, Jack Culcay (Germany by way of Ecuador/pro record: 22-1-0, 11 KOs). He said, “I fought Culcay as an amateur in the 2007 World Championships, so we have some history together in the ring. Although our teams haven’t been able to come to terms on a fight yet, beating Culcay for his title would increase the leverage I have in future fight negotiations. He is a current world champion who wants to fight me, so that certainly gets my attention.”

Andrade addressed a potential fight with WBA 154 lb Super Champion, Erislandy Lara (Houston, Texas by way of Cuba/pro record: 23-2-2, 13 KOs). He said, “Lara always tells people that he beat me in the amateurs. I lost to him in international competition when I was just 17 years old. In that fight, he ran around as usual, and that was reflected in the final score, 4-9. I thought I had really won that fight. I had been averaging around 20 points per fight in the amateurs leading up to that fight. Recently, Lara made claims that his team sent over a contract to fight me on two different occasions. For the record, my team never received an offer. Lara can post on social media the next time his team sends me a contract offer, and I’ll be sure to review it with my team immediately. Ask anybody who has ever sent over a contract over to my team, and they’ll tell you that we get back to people with a response very quickly. Lara and I both had success in the amateurs, and we have continued to have successful professional careers. If we fight soon, his WBA Super Title would be up for grabs, so now would be a good time for me to get revenge from that robbery in the amateurs. Uncle Al knows that I’m ready to fight Lara wherever and whenever, so all he has to do is call.”

Another fight that intrigues Andrade is a potential fight with Kell Brook (United Kingdom/pro record: 36-1-0, 25 KOs). He said, “Brook showed lots of heart against GGG, and I think people would be interested to see how he’d do against someone with my skill set. I get a lot of positive messages on social media from the boxing fans in the UK, and they let me know that Brook recently announced his plan to move to 154 lbs. Eddie Hearn is good at making fights that the fans want to see, and I think he would make a lot of people happy by allowing Brook to fight me without any hesitation.”

On fighting either of the Charlo brothers, Andrade said, “I’m not really sure what the Charlos are planning to do. One Charlo brother was supposed to fight Hatley, but that doesn’t seem to be happening yet for some reason, and I don’t know what the other one is doing. Honestly, I have no problem fighting both Charlo brothers in the same night. Besides their trainers and girlfriends, is there anyone in the world who really believes I’d lose to either one of those guys?”

Miguel Cotto (Puerto Rico/ pro record: 40-5-0, 33 KOs) is also on the Team Andrade radar. Andrade said, “Cotto is a hall of fame fighter and I would love to fight him. He is a former four-division world champion, and he brings a lot of experience to the ring. He may be campaigning for a title in my division soon, so I want the fans to mention my name when he gets ready to finalize an opponent for his next fight date. A fight against Cotto would excite the boxing fan base, plus it would make for a fun promotion. We were both born in Providence.”

Andrade believes that his talent poses a threat to the new WBO 154 lb champion, Saul Alvarez (Mexico/ pro record: 48-1-1, 34 KOs). He said, “I watched the Liam Smith-Canelo Alvarez fight, and it’s a shame that people paid good money to watch that fight. If Canelo wants to see how good he really is, then he needs to fight me. My boxing skills are superior to his, not to mention that I have more speed and power than anyone he has fought, including Floyd. The Mexican fans cheer on their countrymen, and I respect them for that, and they also admire great boxing talents. If Canelo fights me, I guarantee you that I’ll open their eyes to what a real boxing talent looks like. The low pay-per-view buys for Canelo’s recent fight prove that boxing fans can’t be fooled. People knew that fight wouldn’t be competitive, so they chose not to buy it. I’ve been reading that Canelo may move up to 160 to test waters for a GGG fight. Tell Eric Gomez and Oscar De La Hoya that I’m ready for Canelo at 154 lbs.”

Team Andrade boxing trainer, Paul Andrade, said, “Right now, the top names to beat in the 154 division are Saul “Canelo” Alvarez, Erislandy Lara, Miguel Cotto, and the Charlo brothers. Canelo is likely giving up his WBO 154 lb belt, knowing very well that Demetrius is the mandatory. I call Canelo a flip-flop boxer. He flips and flops to avoid all the top contenders in the 154 lb division, but then again, so do Lara and the Charlo brothers. Jermall Charlo and Charles Hatley have not signed to fight each other yet, probably because the winner would have to fight Demetrius. We’ve called Lara out in the past. I can’t think of a better story line for a fight than to have two native sons of Providence, Rhode Island, fight each other here in Providence – Demetrius Andrade and Miguel Cotto. Which one of these fighters want to step in the ring with Demetrius Andrade? These boxers say they will fight anybody. Therefore, I am on my way to City Hall and the court building, so that I can change my son’s name to ‘Anybody.’

If there’s one boxer who will likely step up and fight Demetrius, it’s Kell Brook. By moving up two weight classes to fight GGG, he proved that he had the heart of a warrior. If Brook is going back down to 154 lbs, we would love to shake hands with him in the middle of the ring and get it on. Like Brook, I have a lot of respect for Jack Culcay. Although we haven’t yet received the fight contract from Culcay’s team, he seems to be willing to do what other fighters are afraid to do, and that’s accept a challenge from Demetrius Andrade.”


Is Demetrius Andrade the most feared man in boxing?


So Lara & Andrade when Lara was 22 & Andrade was only 17? Man, I don't never wanna hear about their "amateur fight" again



#ATeam

 

[mr. smoke weed]

You're making my point for me. The fukk us that lineal belt worth if you've been fighting the competition that Adonis has been fighting? I understand there were roadblocks in place that kept the Krusher fight from happening but calling a guy 'the man' when he's out rhere fighting Tommy Karpency and Dmitry Sukhotsky (sp?) seems ridiculous. Hard to lose the lineal title when you're not fighting anyone worth a fukk

What is the lineal belt worth when you're fighting the guys (up until Ward) that kkkov fought?

 

[mr. smoke weed]

Lol.........No he is not