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I love how certain brehs giving Swift a pass for fighting Molina bum ass yet he dont get nearly the same treatment as Pac(who isnt champion) for fighting Vargas(an actual welterweight champion) coming off a great victory over a top 10 welterweight Sadam Ali:francis:

who is giving swift a pass for this?...even @ChocolateGiddyUp is not condoning this fight and he thinks every swift fight is fun and competitive
 

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ANDRE BERTO SOUNDS OFF ON DANNY GARCIA FAILED FIGHT: "NOBODY OUTPRICED THEMSELVES...THAT WAS A bytch MOVE"
By Ben Thompson | September 14, 2016


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BT: My man, you know I had to hit you after you put that meme out. Give me the scoop, man! The Garcia fight ain't happening?

AB: I just found out last night; a secret source hit me and kind of told me what was happening. I ain't even get no offer. Al knows that I've always been about my money and made sure I always made a lot of money because I always handle my business correctly. So if it wasn't right, he didn't even bring it to me because he already know what it is with me. So shortly after the conversation, I already see a post on Garcia vs. Molina. I wasn't going to say nothing about it, but then when I heard that they say, "Berto outpriced himself; the fight with Garcia is off," I'm like, hold on, man, I didn't even get no offer. Like, uh uh, don't do this. I just put the meme up like, boy, don't play with me! Don't play with me! If it was a situation where both of us couldn't get paid right, just say that, but don't say nobody outpriced themselves, nobody this, nobody that. Everybody know how you get down, you know what I mean. I ain't knocking your style of trying to fight less for the most money. Man, that's all good, but don't try to throw me in like I'm outpricing myself or I'm ducking you. Come on, man, I've been barking for that fight since after this last one. If it's some type of other capacity, say that, but don't throw my name out there on no other shyt, bro, don't do that.

BT: I know Danny has often said that he doesn't pick his opponents and that he just fights whoever Al wants him to fight. Do you think that's the case here? Was Danny simply told that he'll be fighting John Molina or...

AB: (Cutting in) I mean, if that's the case and that's what you doing, let it be known. Don't go and say some other bullshyt. Just tell them what's really going on, man, you know what I mean.

BT: Or do you think he was offered either you or Molina and he simply preferred Molina?

AB: I don't know. Like I said, I always had love and respect for Danny and his family, to be realistic, you know what I mean. I fukk with his pops, everybody, but I just think that was a bytch move. He just like his dad said in an old interview, man, it's all about fighting the fights for the most money with the less risk. Yeah, that's true sometimes when it comes to a point, but, you know, it also comes to a point of what are you in it for? Of course they here to get money, but fight the better opposition as well. You gonna get paid more fighting the better opposition at the end of the day. But it is what it is.

BT: You've been working with Al for a long time, so you know how fights like this get made. Are you surprised that, for whatever reason, you weren't able to get the fight with Danny?

AB: I'm not surprised because, like I said man, the good thing about Al is, you know, if he could put you in a position to make the most money for the least risk, you know, he's going to do that, which is great, you know what I'm saying, but this right here is a fight that, you know, you were at my last fight and you literally looked at me and you looking at everybody else like, "Yeah, I would love to have that fight next." You know, let's make it happen! My thing is I'm all about the business aspect. Everybody knows me from a long time ago; I've always been about my business. I've always made a shyt load of money because I've been about my business. And if that's the case, just say, "Listen, man, I wanted a good fight, but they wasn't trying to put up enough money for both of us to fight." Don't go and say, "Oh no, he outbidded himself and, you know, this and that and this and that." Come on, dude, don't do that! Don't do that, bro! I've been getting this Al Haymon money since I've been 22 years old, you know what I'm saying. I've been getting a million from 22, 23 and I ain't getting nothing less since, you know what I'm saying, so don't say nobody outbidded themselves, bro. Come on, now! Let's just make it do what it do. Just say, "Hey man, I would love to fight and let me just take this easier fight for the most money. They don't have to pay John Molina as much money and, you know, we gonna make it do what it do. That's it!"

BT: No disrespect to John, but I'm really surprised that he'd be the one to get the fight with Danny. I mean, I know he had a nice win against Provodnikov, but he also lost to Broner and Matthysse. I'm not exactly sure what a win over him does for Danny. I just don't see the point of that fight.

AB: That's crazy! It was just like so, like, so off the radar. But, like I said, a lot of these fights been off the radar lately, man. The Khan and Canelo, the GGG; they kind of just doing whatever they want to do, so, you know, it is what it is. But like I say, man, I ain't finna shyt on John Molina; like I said, that's my guy, but at the same time, listen man, give the people what they want to see, you know what I mean. It's going to be a certain point when you going to sit back and say, "Listen man, I'm at a certain status. I don't want to disrespect the WBC. I'm WBC world champion, you know what I mean. I don't want to fight this guy just because. I want to make sure that folks know I'm not playing. I'm that guy. I'm the WBC champion; I want to give these people fights they need to see. Of course they need to pay me, but these the fights I want." You know what I'm saying? But like I said, man, it's a different situation, different age now. It is what it is.

BT: You used the hashtag #DuckingSeason on a few of your posts. Do you think Danny is literally ducking you? Do you think maybe they saw something that made them think maybe you wouldn't be a good style matchup for him?

AB: I mean, he was up close and personal this last time. He was commentating, so he was up close and personal. So he knows that them punches are coming hard, they coming fast, they coming uppercuts, hooks, all types of different types of ways, and I'm in beast mode right now, you know what I'm saying. So he was able to see it up close and personal. It's a different type of feeling when you hear about it or you think somebody might be slipping or this and that, but really see it up close and see that this nikka is still an animal in so many different ways and he punching like a fukking mack truck, bro. It's a different type of situation, you know what I'm saying. And like I said, he was there my whole time for this last scrap and he just saw that my focus is different, my mentality is different, and, you know, it ain't going to slow down for nobody. Like I said, we just two completely different men athletes. When it comes to business, man, you know I'm all about my business, you know what I'm saying. Al already gave you; he gave you two gimmes them last two fights, so let's get some real shyt cracking, you know what I mean. But like I say, man, I'm not in his mind, I'm not in his head. They handle their business however they want to handle it. They don't want to worry about or care too much about legacy. I mean, they want to make sure they secure they bag, and that's, shyt, there ain't nothing wrong with that either, but when you coming out with it, man, make sure that everything is clear.

BT: Even before your rematch with Oritz, it seemed like all signs were pointing to this fight being next on the horizon. How does it affect your mindset moving forward now that you have to switch gears and start thinking about a different opponent?

AB: I mean, it's the fight game, man, so you just gotta refocus. While he's fighting John Molina, you know, whoever I'm fighting next, I just gotta continue just letting it be known that we one of the top and soon to be the best welterweight in the world, so I'm gonna make it evident that every move that anybody makes with me now is gonna be for a reason. If they don't wanna fight, we know why. You know what I'm saying! If they want to fight, hey, everybody gonna give them those kudos, but at the end of the day, man, listen, I'm on this road of destruction right now. Coming off this Floyd fight, coming off this Ortiz fight, you know, I'm a completely different fighter now just physically, mentally, health-wise. I'm just ready to wreck shyt and just continue moving; that's it. I can't knock a man for what kind of route he's taking, but I know what I'ma do. Everybody know what I'ma do though, you know what I'm saying. If my back's against the wall, everybody know what I'ma do. I'ma motherfukkin' scrap and I've been doing that. Eyes closed, whatever the case may be, they know I'm in that bytch scrapping. I don't care about nothing else.


ANDRE BERTO SOUNDS OFF ON DANNY GARCIA FAILED FIGHT: "NOBODY OUTPRICED THEMSELVES...THAT WAS A bytch MOVE" || FIGHTHYPE.COM


Reading that gave me a headache :russ:


Berto: I ant ever got no offer
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who is giving swift a pass for this?...even @ChocolateGiddyUp is not condoning this fight and he thinks every swift fight is fun and competitive

Hes getting nowhere near the amount of backlash and treatment being a paper champion who's only fought Guerrero and Paulie at 147 and now Molina bum ass) as Pacquiao getting for fighting the wbo champion.. the double standard is there and its cool
 

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Shiiiiiiiiiiiit HBO should have all of ggg's fight broadcast live from Mexico City, to go with the Mexican Style :heh:
They have actually discussed it. Word was they considered putting on a Mexico City fight. I think that was more pie in the sky to build a Mexican fan base and there aren't really any Mexican fighters he could legitimately pull to fight there and help be a draw, other than Canelo, and if they fought it probably will be in Dallas.

He should stick to NY and LA. He has done well there and has good fan bases there. They will probably have to re-visit the UK if they want that BJS belt. But there is a reason no one is real excited to go there (Brook said they offered Garcia and Broner fights in the UK and they turned it down), because the US fighter loses from the marketability aspect.
 

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But who actually wanted to see Garcia face Provodnikov? :what:

I have been wanting Garcia vs. Thurman, Brook, Porter, Spence, Pacquiao, or Bradley. Time for Danny to face one of the better guys at 147...a lot of those fights should be easy to make. I have said I have/had no interest in Garcia vs. Mayweather. Doesn't interest me and an easy win for Floyd.
 

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I love how certain brehs giving Swift a pass for fighting Molina bum ass yet he dont get nearly the same treatment as Pac(who isnt champion) for fighting Vargas(an actual welterweight champion) coming off a great victory over a top 10 welterweight Sadam Ali:francis:
Nobody in here is giving Garcia a pass breh.

I like that spin on Vargas though. That has me thinking I wonder if TR will make Ali/BATB :shaq2:

Edit: Breh Manny is getting paid $20MM to fight Vargas, which he wouldn't budge on. That's why he's getting a lot of flack, that and Vargas sucks.
 

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too much blatant ducking going on in boxing right now
al haymon really telling fighters i'm gonna get you the most money for the least risk:francis:
TBF it's mostly the name guys. Tevin Farmer will fight anyone, Floyd had Tank setup to fight Sosa, Mikey's fighting Zlatican, AB had Warren run it back with Payano this year and just had Easter in a hard ass fight.

The thing that :mindblown: to me is (just using this as an example) Danny beat Paulie in January. It was said then, he'd fight winner of Ortiz/Berto, which was in April. So if you're PBC/Lou DiBella/whoever's actually doing the promoting, why don't you get Swift a fight vs a jobber and do a double headline bout? Or literally call up a taxi driver from Argentina just so Swift stays active. The 'ducking' is always relative, but the inactivity is what's inexcusable.
 

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I love how certain brehs giving Swift a pass for fighting Molina bum ass yet he dont get nearly the same treatment as Pac(who isnt champion) for fighting Vargas(an actual welterweight champion) coming off a great victory over a top 10 welterweight Sadam Ali:francis:
Stans can't be impartial breh nikkas throw around that duck word all damn day:mjlol:
 

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TBF it's mostly the name guys. Tevin Farmer will fight anyone, Floyd had Tank setup to fight Sosa, Mikey's fighting Zlatican, AB had Warren run it back with Payano this year and just had Easter in a hard ass fight.

The thing that :mindblown: to me is (just using this as an example) Danny beat Paulie in January. It was said then, he'd fight winner of Ortiz/Berto, which was in April. So if you're PBC/Lou DiBella/whoever's actually doing the promoting, why don't you get Swift a fight vs a jobber and do a double headline bout? Or literally call up a taxi driver from Argentina just so Swift stays active. The 'ducking' is always relative, but the inactivity is what's inexcusable.
PBC don't know what the fukk they doing. AL need to stick to the numbers side of things he don't understandhow to build a fighter at all
 

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TBF it's mostly the name guys. Tevin Farmer will fight anyone, Floyd had Tank setup to fight Sosa, Mikey's fighting Zlatican, AB had Warren run it back with Payano this year and just had Easter in a hard ass fight.

The thing that :mindblown: to me is (just using this as an example) Danny beat Paulie in January. It was said then, he'd fight winner of Ortiz/Berto, which was in April. So if you're PBC/Lou DiBella/whoever's actually doing the promoting, why don't you get Swift a fight vs a jobber and do a double headline bout? Or literally call up a taxi driver from Argentina just so Swift stays active. The 'ducking' is always relative, but the inactivity is what's inexcusable.

Exactly what I said...if you goin fight bums at least fight 3 a yr

Guerrero in Jan

Diego Chavez, Brandon Rios type May/june

Molina in Oct

"Hit people with the money is tight, unification coming in 2017"

No different the what HBO doing

Lundy
Jean

Monroe
Wade

Washed Pascal
Chilemba

HBO does it smooth N slick

PBC stumbles all over themselves
 

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PBC don't know what the fukk they doing. AL need to stick to the numbers side of things he don't understandhow to build a fighter at all
I think that's actually the problem. Because Haymon is more of a manager than a promoter. They need to hire Gary Shaw and put him and Schaef Dog in a room and lock it til they get this shyt fixed. I think some of these dude's need to get reprimanded for their ducking ways.
 
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