Axum Ezana
Driving in the fast lane
lol...since he wanted to play that game I played it back.
not that it means much anyways...boxers predictions are wrong a lot of times.
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lol...since he wanted to play that game I played it back.
not that it means much anyways...boxers predictions are wrong a lot of times.
guzman's power is no joke...good for him...Rigo got a new opponent to hopefully rumble with there
these asian cats have been catching work lately in the lower divisions
Andrade's skill level > Austin Trout and Paul Williams.
You'll see one day soon
Basically, and nikkas is throwing around that Punisher fight like dude wasn't past it as hell at that point.
I don't know what's worse. Clottey not being able to stop Chico (RIP) or Lara not being able to stop that faded version of Paul.
All I remember from that fight, straight from memory, is that Paul Williams was throwing tons of punches and was very aggressive in the fight (coming forward while walking thru Lara's punches) and showing ring generalship by controlling the fight, while Lara wasn't nearly as busy....but he did land the cleaner punches over and over again (1 punch at a time though).
Lara won imo, but it wasn't a dominant victory. All those clean/flush shots he landed on Paul Williams, but never did he have Punisher in any danger of going down.
GREENandYELLOW
2x...and defending
Would be a good fight. Both careers feel like they are past their prime, yet the fight would be highly competitive. Khan has control over his career, so he could be on HBO.-........... Am I the only one who'd really like to finally see Bradley-Khan at 147?
I actually don't think the fight is horrible...just horrible as a PPV. Vargas has looked good recently, but I still think Pacquiao is in another league...although I feel he would still easily beat most opponents (including Broner and Garcia).-Pac-Vargas is not a bad fight, we just all know the outcome...
100%. No one can question Kell's toughness. I just don't see the point from Kell's side. He could have gotten close to the money with a lot of other fighters, without the risk. It is a tough spot. I hate telling a guy he has lost before he actually has and it is good Brook has this confidence, but it doesn't seem like a very smart move.-Kell Brook, as a non-fan, I'm just praying for your safety. Kell "Shook" should never be spoken or typed again (NEG on site)
Actually feeling like I don't want to see Brandon Rios in the ring...at least vs. someone good. He has started to really look like his warrior style is getting the best of him.-I'm happy to see him motivated and in shape but... who is Brandon Rios actually scheduled to fight?
I think Spence will stop Bundu. I don't want to crown him too soon, but if Spence stays at 147, I think he takes over the division and becomes the clear #1 fighter.-If Spence Jr. stops Bundu, it'll be his 6th opponent in a row that will have been stopped for the very 1st time... amazing. 151-8-4 combined of his last 6 including Bundu. Amazing.
Hadn't heard Thurman hurt his hand. Sounds like Thurman-Garcia wasn't imminent, so he could use the rest.-Sucks that Thurman injured his hand and will have to recover, only to be forced into a mandatory against David Ava.
You are right, even if they don't fight each other, what is the hold up getting them a date on TV? Honestly don't have any interest in them fighting each other.-September 24th, Danny Garcia vs Andre Berto, is this official yet? What's the hold up?
He was supposed to have an August "ish" date in DC, but haven't heard anything about it. Again, what is the holdup getting these guys fights?-Does Lamont Peterson plan on fighting, at all? Brandon Rios needs an opponent, and he whooped your brother's ass so...
After the fight I felt worried for him too. With all the shyt he has been through, made me think that adding more emotional distress could definitely be a negative thing. He said all the right things after the fight. Admitted he lost the fight and wants to get better and move forward.-Really disappointed in Sammy Vasquez's latest efforts. Vasquez doesn't strike me as being mentally stable in the long run anyway... PTSD, or shell shocked, is a real problem. Hate to say it but, wouldn't surprise me if he doesn't bounce back from this. Him vs Alvarado would be fitting.
I thought Lara won a 8 rds to 4 type of fight. Maybe 115-113, at worst, but he won it clearly. It's just that he wasn't all that impressive. He would land clean and rock dude while outboxing him, but would then get outworked for certain stretches at a time. If Lara fought with more urgency he could have prolly gotten a stoppage.
Lara could have done what Andrade did to Nelson, but he only did just enough and it came back to bite him.
I haven't watched that fight in years.
I hardly ever rewatch Lara fights though.
Best I Faced: Buddy McGirt - Ring TV
James “Buddy” McGirt was a two-weight world champion in the late 1980s and early ’90s. He fought some of the best fighters of his generation in his 80 pro bouts before becoming a world-class trainer.
McGirt was born and raised in Brentwood, New York; he was one of six children, his parents were separated. His elder brother kept him away from the vices of the streets – in particular, the notorious La Placita shopping center.
“Everyone hung out there – the pimps, drug dealers. If I was hanging out there my brother would tell me, ‘You’ve got exactly two minutes to get off the block.’ I’d get on my bike and leave,” McGirt told RingTV.com.
He never strayed and continued his progression in school as well as in amateur boxing. He graduated from Brentwood high school and looked set to go to college to study business.
However, he received some life-changing news that curtailed those plans.
“My girlfriend got pregnant,” he said. “So I figured if I turn pro, I’ll get rich overnight … That was lie.” (Laughs)
He exited the amateur game with a modest 54-9 ledger, turning pro in March 1982. After drawing in his pro debut, he won his next 28 bouts to set up his most significant challenge to date when he met fellow unbeaten Frankie Warren.
Warren outpointed McGirt over 10 rounds. Undeterred, McGirt continued to hone his skills over the next 18 months, staying active before facing Warren in a rematch, this time for the vacant IBF junior welterweight title. McGirt was ahead on the cards but closed the show midway through the 12th round.
He met two Olympic gold medalists with contrasting results. McGirt stopped Howard Davis Jr. in a single round in his maiden defense before losing to Meldrick Taylor, getting stopped himself in the 12th frame.
The crafty boxer-puncher pieced his career back together over the next three years, winning all 16 fights to set up a meeting with WBC and lineal welterweight champion Simon Brown.
McGirt produced a virtuoso performance to stun the defending champion, winning a wide unanimous decision.
“I was in such a zone for that fight I couldn’t tell you if he was strong or he could punch. Nothing mattered that night,” he said, before reflecting. “Everyone says my best performance was against Simon Brown but I believe my best win was against Frankie Warren.”
He made three successful defenses, including one on the road in Italy against the underrated Patrizio Oliva. Unfortunately for McGirt, his career intersected with one of the all-time greats, Pernell Whitaker. To make matters worse, he tore his left shoulder a few months prior to their fight, which he lost by unanimous decision.
McGirt got a few wins and called out Whitaker, who again bested him on points.
The gutsy New Yorker stuck around for a few more years but never again dined at the top table of world boxing. Days after his 33rd birthday McGirt retired from boxing after dropping a unanimous decision to Darren Maciunski. He walked away with a very respectable record of 73-6-1 (48 knockouts).
He says the biggest disappointment in his career was “when I had to retire.”
Unlike many boxers, McGirt knew where his future lay. It was something he’d long prepared for.
“I started boxing Jan. 17, 1976; I started on my 12th birthday. The very next day I wanted to be a trainer instead of a fighter,” he said, recollecting his earliest boxing memory. “The mid-part of my career, after a fight I would go home and train amateur boxing in my spare time.”
In the 20 years since retiring, he estimates he has worked with 10 world champions, including Antonio Tarver, Vernon Forrest, Paulie Malignaggi and Arturo Gatti.
McGirt worked the corner of Tarver’s incredible KO over Roy Jones Jr. and all three of Gatti’s bouts with Micky Ward.
He knew he was involved in something special: “Being a part of it (Gatti-Ward trilogy) … the crowd is going crazy for both guys and you get chills. You’re like, ‘Holy sh_t.”‘
McGirt had been due to be in Isaac Chilemba’s corner for his fight with Sergey Kovalev but was unable to travel due to visa issues. He has remained in the U.S., where he’ll be with exciting up-and-coming junior welterweight Sergey Lipinits, who faces Walter Castillo in the main event of a “Premier Boxing Champions” show on Friday.
McGirt, 52, has been married for 27 years and has eight children. He currently lives in Vero Beach, Florida, where he works with several fledgling fighters, including his son James McGirt Jr.
He graciously agreed to speak to RingTV.com about the best he faced in 10 key categories.
BEST JAB
Pat Coleman: It’s a pick between two guys: Saoul Mamby and Pat Coleman. Saoul Mamby, when he jabbed he had a sort of half open glove. It was just annoying, he could hit you from different angles because he had so much experience. Pat Coleman had that stinging jab; it was a jab you had to think about. You couldn’t just walk through it. I’m going to go with Pat Coleman.
BEST DEFENSE
Pernell Whitaker: Pernell had a natural ability and his natural ability, along with Georgie Benton’s teachings, just made him better and harder for everybody else to hit him. It’s very deceiving because he’d be right there one minute, and when you punched he didn’t go anywhere, he stays there. He just had this natural instinct of going with the punches and catching them.
BEST CHIN
Frankie Warren: When we fought the second time, I hit him with shots that would have knocked anybody else out. Some of the shots I hit him with I put my ass into. (Laughs) He wouldn’t go anywhere. Even though I knocked him down he was just in my ass constantly. I had nightmares about him for about two months after the fight!
FASTEST HANDS
Meldrick Taylor: He didn’t have the best defense but his hand speed was so fast that you thought you were surrounded! (Laughs)
FASTEST FEET
Whitaker: That’s an interesting question. Even though Frankie Warren was a pressure fighter his foot movement was really good, especially on the inside. He would get inside and give me different angles. He’d be right in your face, quick. His balance was perfect. Pernell didn’t move much, he’d stand in front of you and turn you around. From that southpaw stance he was phenomenal – he could turn you and slip, he could get under the shots and still be in the same place. His balance was great. He had it down to a tee.
SMARTEST
Saoul Mamby: He was very tricky. I hit him with a shot, a good right, I saw his legs buckle and I’m going in for the kill. I thought I’d be the first one to stop him. When I threw a right hand he slipped and hit me with a left hook to the liver. I’ve never in my life been hit like that to the liver. When we got into a clinch he told me “to slow (your) young ass down.” (Laughs)
STRONGEST
Warren: That’ll be tough. Frankie Warren and Vincent Releford. If I had to pick I’d go with Frankie Warren; he was short, he’s an ex-football player and was on me so much you felt you were fighting two people.
BEST PUNCHER
Vincent Releford: He could just punch. He could punch with both hands. He hit me with a bodyshot and I felt it in my nasal passage. He could punch. I didn’t go down. I went down against Tony Baltazar. For seven rounds I didn’t know where I was or who I was fighting. When I looked up it was Round 9 and I said to my manager, “How did we get to Round 9?” and he said, “Keep doing what you‘re doing.” And I said, “What’s that?” He said, “Keep boxing.” I won every round after I got knocked down but I don’t remember anything from the fight to this day.
BEST SKILLS
Whitaker: I’ve got to say Pernell. Meldrick could box but he was easy to hit. Pernell could box but he was hard to hit.
BEST OVERALL
Whitaker: Pernell, believe it or not, he was a helluva bodypuncher. I give credit where credit is due and he was the best.
Axum Ezana
Driving in the fast lane
as always sweet pea gets love. I think he has the most overall best votes ive seen so far.
fukk crack n reagan!
I noticed Lara doesn't throw with power until he feels absolutely comfortable in the Ring. Dunno why though, his hands are super fast, it'd probably take him 2/10ths of a second to sit down on his left cross consistently.
Lara gon lara
I remember sweet pea trying to train Zab (
) but haven't heard of him trying to train outside of that. Anyone have a scoop on that?
) but haven't heard of him trying to train outside of that. Anyone have a scoop on that?
Is that a DR champ?
Hopefully Rigo can unify with this cat.
yeah thats a dominican