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We can agree to disagree then

Garcia aint no ppv fighter... he a free tv fighter.. same with AB.. dont matter if you swift or Rios.. there's no knowledge of how many people are willing to pay $70 to watch Swift or AB who got whipped by Maidana and Porter in front of millions.. he should take $4 million opportunity on ppv, prove how big of a draw he truly is.. these new nikkas aint trying to put in the work..

Floyd 1st ppv he only made around $3 million.. and Pac, half that..

Danny Garcia and Adrien Broner are BOTH bigger draws now than Floyd was when he 1st fought on PPV......and Arum/HBO still gave Floyd got $3.2 million to fight Gatti as the B-side 11 years ago, but yet they're offering Swift/AB $3-4 million to face a fighter in Pacquiao who's pot is much bigger than Gatti's:camby:


What do you mean "prove how big of a draw he really is"?:dahell:


He drew over 12k in attendance vs Guerrero meaning, he'd sell out the MGM Grand vs Pacquiao:comeon:
 

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I'm disgusted by the fact that we keep missing out on good ass fights because they wanna lowball nikkas and pay them with EBT cards and shyt.

We didn't get Walters/Loma just because nikkas ain't wanna give Walters 800k.

No Broner or Swift vs Manny fights since they offering legit draws Rios and Bradley money.

Broner and Swift just need to do what GGG and Brook did and just fight each other.
this generation is the fukkin' worst man..
 

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Danny Garcia and Adrien Broner are BOTH bigger draws now than Floyd was when he 1st fought on PPV......and Arum/HBO still gave Floyd got $3.2 million to fight Gatti as the B-side 11 years ago, but yet they're offering Swift/AB $3-4 million to face a fighter in Pacquiao who's pot is much bigger than Gatti's:camby:


What do you mean "prove how big of a draw he really is"?:dahell:


He drew over 12k in attendance vs Guerrero meaning, he'd sell out the MGM Grand vs Pacquiao:comeon:

:stopitslime: Anybody Pacquiao fights at MGM will sell out.. you act like you just said something there


Theres nothing to misconstrue about what I meant when I said "prove how much of a draw he really is"

AGIAN.. Swift and AB are free tv fighters.. How many tickets were given away for AB fights?? No way to really measure that.. just like its way to predict how many ppvs Danny or AB(Who barely anyone really thinks can beat Pacquiao) can sell..

Yall calling it a lowball offer when $4 million plus a piece of the back end is career high paydays and an opportunity to truly become the man by winning and I guarantee would get a fight with Floyd if they won..

Like I said.. maybe they ducking.. If you cant beat Maidan, Porter, Harerra, and Peterson, maybe you dont want any parts of Pacquiao
 

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:stopitslime: Anybody Pacquiao fights at MGM will sell out.. you act like you just said something there

Oh really?:jbhmm:

Because he JUST fought at the MGM in April & couldn't sell it out:comeon:


The paid attendance at the MGM Grand Garden Arena was 13,046, with a total attendance of 14,665, making for a live gate of just $6,411,584. It's the worst live gate for a Pacquiao fight since he stopped David Diaz back in June 2008, back when he was not the mega-star that he would go on to become after beating Oscar De La Hoya.

Pacquiao-Bradley III lost money, might not even reach 400,000 buys


Swift did 12k vs Guerrero...he would sell out the MGM vs Pacquiao:usure:


Theres nothing to misconstrue about what I meant when I said "prove how much of a draw he really is"

You can't name 10 bigger draws in Boxing without mentioning Swift or AB's name. :camby:


AGIAN.. Swift and AB are free tv fighters.. How many tickets were given away for AB fights?? No way to really measure that.. just like its way to predict how many ppvs Danny or AB(Who barely anyone really thinks can beat Pacquiao) can sell..

Yall calling it a lowball offer when $4 million plus a piece of the back end is career high paydays and an opportunity to truly become the man by winning and I guarantee would get a fight with Floyd if they won..

Like I said.. maybe they ducking.. If you cant beat Maidan, Porter, Harerra, and Peterson, maybe you dont want any parts of Pacquiao


They're ducking bc they don't want to take the same deal as Brandon Rios got:snoop::snoop:
 

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:stopitslime: Anybody Pacquiao fights at MGM will sell out.. you act like you just said something there


Theres nothing to misconstrue about what I meant when I said "prove how much of a draw he really is"

AGIAN.. Swift and AB are free tv fighters.. How many tickets were given away for AB fights?? No way to really measure that.. just like its way to predict how many ppvs Danny or AB(Who barely anyone really thinks can beat Pacquiao) can sell..

Yall calling it a lowball offer when $4 million plus a piece of the back end is career high paydays and an opportunity to truly become the man by winning and I guarantee would get a fight with Floyd if they won..

Like I said.. maybe they ducking.. If you cant beat Maidan, Porter, Harerra, and Peterson, maybe you dont want any parts of Pacquiao

Selling out doens't mean shyt in boxing, gates never been high.
If its on PPV the buy rate is what gets you paid and since JMM put Manny to sleep those PPVs haven't been successes outside of floyd.
Rios, Algieri, Bradley 3 all failures as PPVs.
If Manny wants to have one last big PPV its Canelo, Floyd, or Broner in terms of generating interest and possbily hitting the 750 - 900k range of buys.
 

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Oh really?:jbhmm:

Because he JUST fought at the MGM in April & couldn't sell it out:comeon:


The paid attendance at the MGM Grand Garden Arena was 13,046, with a total attendance of 14,665, making for a live gate of just $6,411,584. It's the worst live gate for a Pacquiao fight since he stopped David Diaz back in June 2008, back when he was not the mega-star that he would go on to become after beating Oscar De La Hoya.

Pacquiao-Bradley III lost money, might not even reach 400,000 buys


Swift did 12k vs Guerrero...he would sell out the MGM vs Pacquiao:usure:




You can't name 5 bigger draws in Boxing without mentioning Swift or AB's name.:camby:





They're ducking bc they don't want to take the same deal as Brandon Rios got:snoop::snoop:



That right there kills the "just take the money N fight" argument

Theres no getting around it N I've yet to hear one reason how it makes sense

Brandon Rios fresh off a L to Mike Strugglerado...got More or the Same as what was offered to Swift/AB :dead:


Swift offers a bigger fan base, undefeated, WBC championship, Proven draw on both coasts, Angel to sell the fight

AB offers bigger fan base, Floyd relationship to sell the fight, Proven draw...Winning streak


Let's offer them Rios money :mindblown:
 

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Oh really?:jbhmm:

Because he JUST fought at the MGM in April & couldn't sell it out:comeon:


The paid attendance at the MGM Grand Garden Arena was 13,046, with a total attendance of 14,665, making for a live gate of just $6,411,584. It's the worst live gate for a Pacquiao fight since he stopped David Diaz back in June 2008, back when he was not the mega-star that he would go on to become after beating Oscar De La Hoya.

Pacquiao-Bradley III lost money, might not even reach 400,000 buys


Swift did 12k vs Guerrero...he would sell out the MGM vs Pacquiao:usure:




You can't name 10 bigger draws in Boxing without mentioning Swift or AB's name. :camby:





They're ducking bc they don't want to take the same deal as Brandon Rios got:snoop::snoop:

Keep bringing up ticketsales.. we dont even know how many tickets are just given away.. meanwhile none of those guys have headlined and sold ppvs.. they haven't reached that level and here Pacquiao and Arum is offering them an opportunity to get off FREE tv and they getting turned down after years of nikkas on here claiming arum would never work with Al on that level...
 

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That right there kills the "just take the money N fight" argument

Theres no getting around it N I've yet to hear one reason how it makes sense

Brandon Rios fresh off a L to Mike Strugglerado...got More or the Same as what was offered to Swift/AB :dead:


Swift offers a bigger fan base, undefeated, WBC championship, Proven draw on both coasts, Angel to sell the fight

AB offers bigger fan base, Floyd relationship to sell the fight, Proven draw...Winning streak


Let's offer them Rios money :mindblown:

:camby:

Its on record both Danny and AB have turned down Pacquiao... Bring on Keith
 

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These people on Twitter & NSB really think 3-4 Milly is a fair deal tho :dead:


How on Gods green Earf is Rios coming off a L >= Danny Garcia Undefeated 147 WBC champion... 3.5 Milly views on Fox etc etc etc


:dahell::rudy::camby:
Actually more than the Broner and Garcia's offers I am more surprised that Arum is trying to put Pacquiao at the MGM Grand in Vegas.

One of the biggest reasons a Rios PPV was able to do okay was because they held it at the MGM in Macau and they break Arum off a lot of money to hold the event there. With Pacquiao's political situation and the fact US fans aren't as interested with his controversial homophobic comments (and he just said he thought public hangings should be brought back), plus Mayweather ruining a lot of his mystique, pre any of this, I assumed Arum would do another lame headlined fight in Macau, cake off casino revenue and accept the lower PPV buys.
If he does that same strategy but holds it in Las Vegas :scust:.
 

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Keep bringing up ticketsales.. we dont even know how many tickets are just given away.. meanwhile none of those guys have headlined and sold ppvs.. they haven't reached that level and here Pacquiao and Arum is offering them an opportunity to get off FREE tv and they getting turned down after years of nikkas on here claiming arum would never work with Al on that level...


Bradley got 5 Milly his FIRST FIGHT against :deadmanny:


What PPV did Tim headline to deserve that 5 milly??:jbhmm:


What belt did Tim bring to the table to deserve that 5 Milly??:jbhmm:


What big fights, main events, fan base did Bradley have to deserve that 5 Milly??:jbhmm:




2016 Danny Swift Garcia > in every category (Draw, belt, fan base, notoriety,) 2012 Tim Bradley


Tim Bradley got 5 Milly
Swift offered 3-4 Milly


:deadrose::dead:




Like I said anything less then 5 Milly:pacspit:
 

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Yo there's no way I'm talking $4mm if Manny's getting $20mm and I have the belts :dahell:


Floyd was offering :deadmanny: a career high payday got turned down N it was "unfair" "Manny deserves more" "pac brings XYZ to the table"


But now :deadmanny: doing the same exact shyt


"Take the deal" "career high payday" "duck"



Boxing N its fukkery :banderas:
 

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Floyd was offering :deadmanny: a career high payday got turned down N it was "unfair" "Manny deserves more" "pac brings XYZ to the table"


But now :deadmanny: doing the same exact shyt


"Take the deal" "career high payday" "duck"



Boxing N its fukkery :banderas:

Yup, it repeats itself all the time. Just gotta switch out the names and you good.
 
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