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Honestly I can't front on that shyt.

Andrade is about one good win or two from a Nelo fight. Both Charlos are more deserving, so if Alvarez fought one of them first, I'd be cool as fukk with that.

Its better than that euro cac he bout to fight next.
never knew why that matters with a star like Canelo

it's almost completely whatever who he fights, people gonna tune in because it's Canelo who is fighting. It's not like the Charlos, Andrade or anyone who is not that big of a name would add that much to those numbers.
So if someone is really an A list star it's whatever who he fights cause people gonna buy the fight because of him not his opponent. :manny:
 

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imo Pac is a bigger, sharper puncher than Porter. Not sure about he former but think so.
Everybody respected Pac's punching power so far it's not like he can be waked down. AB will also respect it imo

I agree, but at the same time....Pacquiao has never fought someone who attempted to walk him down who was bigger & stronger than him, AND also just so happened to possess fast hands with power and countering ability as well. Everyone he's faced who's been bigger than him has either had much slower hands (Margs & Clottey), were washed up (DLH & Mosley), didn't have good power (Floyd), or didn't come forward (Cotto).



Im not saying that Pacquiao wont earn his respect early in the fight, trust me I know AB will get caught flush on numerous occasions, but your power is only as good as who you're facing. If AB can take his power, it's gonna be a loooong night for Pac. If he cant take his power, it might be a short night for AB. So we have to see:manny:



I feel their style clash will be good, because regardless what the betting odds say or people before the fight say, I think the fight will be much more competitive than anyone thinks. I don't think Pac will steamroll AB. Him winning is undoubtedly the safe bet, but I think AB's tools can make the fight interesting and at worst he has the opportunity to make people come away with a new respect for his talent/skill:yeshrug:
 

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never knew why that matters with a star like Canelo

it's almost completely whatever who he fights, people gonna tune in because it's Canelo who is fighting. It's not like the Charlos, Andrade or anyone who is not that big of a name would add that much to those numbers.
So if someone is really an A list star it's whatever who he fights cause people gonna buy the fight because of him not his opponent. :manny:


Right.


Canelo fought Angulo, Kirkland, and now he's about to fight Liam Smith. There's NO reason for him not to face Andrade and no excuses will be allowed on that.


Im not saying he needs to fight Andrade now, but Andrade is currently ranked #2 by the WBO (Canelo is #1 and Smith is WBO Champion). Once Canelo beats Smith...his mandatory is Andrade. Fight should happen because Andrade is currently the best 154lber, outside of Canelo, today.



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@Newzz you need to put some respeck on Pac-man's power+speed combination. Don't think he's ever faced another fighter with speed like Pac that also has power. IE Maidana had power but is more the lumbering type.
 

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@Newzz you need to put some respeck on Pac-man's power+speed combination. Don't think he's ever faced another fighter with speed like Pac that also has power. IE Maidana had power but is more the lumbering type.

I know Pacquiao has power...he has great power. That's why I said:


Im not saying that Pacquiao wont earn his respect early in the fight, trust me I know AB will get caught flush on numerous occasions, but your power is only as good as who you're facing. If AB can take his power, it's gonna be a loooong night for Pac. If he cant take his power, it might be a short night for AB. So we have to see:manny:


We cant act like it's out the realm of possibility that AB will be able to stand up to Pac's power (meaning just because Pac has great power, it doesn't automatically = AB will get knocked down in the fight).


Brandon Rios absorbed all of his punches and never went down once......but yet Timothy Bradley dropped Rios twice and KOd him:yeshrug:
 
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never knew why that matters with a star like Canelo

it's almost completely whatever who he fights, people gonna tune in because it's Canelo who is fighting. It's not like the Charlos, Andrade or anyone who is not that big of a name would add that much to those numbers.
So if someone is really an A list star it's whatever who he fights cause people gonna buy the fight because of him not his opponent. :manny:

every fight matters breh.

The problem is guys fighting twice a year and random match making. Nothing is ever being cultivated. Smith should have already had a fight in the US on a major network or be on a card with Canelo for the exposure. Instead this cat is being brought over fresh off the plane from EuroCac land to face a guy who already had a cherry pick this year.

and for the record Smith isn't garbage. He's decent with his skills and he has a decent size too, but he's kinda slow and his defense is average at best. This sucks since 154 is so fukking deep. You drop a belt only to run after some scrub for another one.

Canelo is basically running with the Stevenson blueprint for the year 2016.

And you already know if Canelo wins the belt, he's prolly gonna duck Andrade in 2017 (why risk that fight for May, when GGG is waiting in September) so we're prolly gonna see Canelo fight some lower tier middleweight to prepare himself at that weight. If its Saunders that's cool. No problem with that fight, but we'll see.

Andrade will prolly get a chance to fight for the vacant belt, but damn why can't nikkas get a chance to actually fight the champ for the belt.
 

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every fight matters breh.

The problem is guys fighting twice a year and random match making. Nothing is ever being cultivated. Smith should have already had a fight in the US on a major network or be on a card with Canelo for the exposure. Instead this cat is being brought over fresh off the plane from EuroCac land to face a guy who already had a cherry pick this year.

and for the record Smith isn't garbage. He's decent with his skills and he has a decent size too, but he's kinda slow and his defense is average at best. This sucks since 154 is so fukking deep. You drop a belt only to run after some scrub for another one.

Canelo is basically running with the Stevenson blueprint for the year 2016.

And you already know if Canelo wins the belt, he's prolly gonna duck Andrade in 2017 (why risk that fight for May, when GGG is waiting in September) so we're prolly gonna see Canelo fight some lower tier middleweight to prepare himself at that weight. If its Saunders that's cool. No problem with that fight, but we'll see.

Andrade will prolly get a chance to fight for the vacant belt, but damn why can't nikkas get a chance to actually fight the champ for the belt.


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every fight matters breh.

The problem is guys fighting twice a year and random match making. Nothing is ever being cultivated. Smith should have already had a fight in the US on a major network or be on a card with Canelo for the exposure. Instead this cat is being brought over fresh off the plane from EuroCac land to face a guy who already had a cherry pick this year.

and for the record Smith isn't garbage. He's decent with his skills and he has a decent size too, but he's kinda slow and his defense is average at best. This sucks since 154 is so fukking deep. You drop a belt only to run after some scrub for another one.

Canelo is basically running with the Stevenson blueprint for the year 2016.

And you already know if Canelo wins the belt, he's prolly gonna duck Andrade in 2017 (why risk that fight for May, when GGG is waiting in September) so we're prolly gonna see Canelo fight some lower tier middleweight to prepare himself at that weight. If its Saunders that's cool. No problem with that fight, but we'll see.

Andrade will prolly get a chance to fight for the vacant belt, but damn why can't nikkas get a chance to actually fight the champ for the belt.
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every fight matters breh.

The problem is guys fighting twice a year and random match making. Nothing is ever being cultivated. Smith should have already had a fight in the US on a major network or be on a card with Canelo for the exposure. Instead this cat is being brought over fresh off the plane from EuroCac land to face a guy who already had a cherry pick this year.

and for the record Smith isn't garbage. He's decent with his skills and he has a decent size too, but he's kinda slow and his defense is average at best. This sucks since 154 is so fukking deep. You drop a belt only to run after some scrub for another one.

Canelo is basically running with the Stevenson blueprint for the year 2016.

And you already know if Canelo wins the belt, he's prolly gonna duck Andrade in 2017 (why risk that fight for May, when GGG is waiting in September) so we're prolly gonna see Canelo fight some lower tier middleweight to prepare himself at that weight. If its Saunders that's cool. No problem with that fight, but we'll see.

Andrade will prolly get a chance to fight for the vacant belt, but damn why can't nikkas get a chance to actually fight the champ for the belt.

Preach, brother. 100% spot on.

Im trying to figure out why not fight the low tier middleweight now to get used to the full 160 weight, and a middle tier one in May to get ready for GGG in Sept.? What is the WBO 154 lb. title gonna do for Canelo?
 

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Preach, brother. 100% spot on.

Im trying to figure out why not fight the low tier middleweight now to get used to the full 160 weight, and a middle tier one in May to get ready for GGG in Sept.? What is the WBO 154 lb. title gonna do for Canelo?

Exactly.

It's like there's no rhyme or reason to these fights. Oscar not even plugging in the 2nd controller. nikka doing random player select for Canelo's opponents. :mindblown:

He could have moved up and fought Lemieux this fall and then go and fight Saunders in May 2017. Get that belt and make the GGG fight a unification bout.

I mean if the belts don't mean shyt. He could have fought one of the Charlos, Andrade, or JRock at 154 instead of Smith who hardly anybody knows or gives a shyt about.
 
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