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On another note, nikkas thought I was lying when I said Marcos Maidana is better than Lucas Matthysse with Robert Garcia in his corner


Matthysse struggling with John Molina while Maidana was giving that work to Floyd


That AB loss to Maidana doesn't look as bad anymore. Broner won 5 rounds at max against Maidana (3, 5, 6, 7, and 12). ...TBE won 7 rounds at Max.


Maidana with Robert Garcia is a problem brehs


He's a B fighter, but the pressure and volume punching he applies takes his talent up to a B+

ehh....breh, you have a habit of comparing fights when the styles are different. LM could still be a better fighter...but LM style just not suited for a lot of guys...plus I think he is having a problem with the weight. when you have weight issues its harder to take a punch. I think LM would KO AB...but I still think if AB fought Maidana again, he could win. it would be hard for him to beat the Maidana of last night but we are talking about different styles. AB would need to correct his defense. Offensively he was pretty good. LM and MM may fight one day at 147 and the outcome wont have anything to do with what we have seen in the past two weeks.

 

[ChocolateGiddyUp]

On another note, nikkas thought I was lying when I said Marcos Maidana is better than Lucas Matthysse with Robert Garcia in his corner


Matthysse struggling with John Molina while Maidana was giving that work to Floyd


That AB loss to Maidana doesn't look as bad anymore. Broner won 5 rounds at max against Maidana (3, 5, 6, 7, and 12). ...TBE won 7 rounds at Max.


Maidana with Robert Garcia is a problem brehs


He's a B fighter, but the pressure and volume punching he applies takes his talent up to a B+

THIS is what you shoulda opened with breh not

You are right Maidana proved hes better then Lucas

Garcia got chinos jab nice

Ariza deserves alot of fukking credit...his fighters stay with extra stamina N stay able to eat clean hard shots like scooby snacks

#arizashakes

 

[Newzz]

I got no Roy Jones vs Tarver vibes.


I feel like Floyd THOUGHT he was gonna be able to go toe to toe with Mar, because Maidana didn't KO AB...Floyd didn't think he was as strong as they say he is, and ended up giving away early rounds.

Once he switched back to his normal "hit and not be hit' style, he started picking Maidana off and connecting much cleaner and easier in the later rounds....which is how he clinched he the victory in my eyes.


I think a rematch is gonna be normal Floyd and he will beat Maidana much cleaner. No more toe to toe in the rematch

 

[ChocolateGiddyUp]

Maidanna was what 17 pounds heavier then Floyd??

How many 37 yr olds are fighting champs weighing damn near 20 pounds heavier then them on fight night??

 

[Newzz]

THIS is what you shoulda opened with breh not

You are right Maidana proved hes better then Lucas

Garcia got chinos jab nice

Ariza deserves alot of fukking credit...his fighters stay with extra stamina N stay able to eat clean hard shots like scooby snacks

#arizashakes

Them Ariza Shakes turns boys into men



I don't know what he puts in there, but I don't see why more fighters don't hire Ariza. Obviously, whatever he's doing is working.


This is not the same Maidana who lost to Khan, Kotelnik, and Alexander. Floyd couldn't even hurt him and besides the slight gassing, this dude just kept on coming. Floyd's body shots didn't do no real damage

 

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Kids, don't do coke

 

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Kids, don't do coke

but he had to get his weight down somehow breh

 

[ChocolateGiddyUp]

Them Ariza Shakes turns boys into men



I don't know what he puts in there, but I don't see why more fighters don't hire Ariza. Obviously, whatever he's doing is working.


This is not the same Maidana who lost to Khan, Kotelnik, and Alexander. Floyd couldn't even hurt him and besides the slight gassing, this dude just kept on coming. Floyd's body shots didn't do no real damage

Ariza Shakes are USADA approved

There was a few times Floyd hit Chino N I said uH oh this could be it N Chino was

Guerrero N Canelo felt them shots N was

Swift needs to hire Ariza for that 147 come up...Angel N Ariza together

 

[Black_Jesus]

because Floyd was winning the majority of the rounds after Maidana's arms got heavy. He only did well while he was fresh....after that he was getting beat. Maidana didnt sweep shyt. I aint talkin to u anyway cuz u dont know shyt about boxing. no fukkin way I am giving a draw to a guy who doesnt even land a 1/3 of his punches while the other guy lands 2/3 unless the guy landing least is killing the other dude. Floyd was never in any peril. Only in jeapardy of losing on cards of dipshyts like you who say percentage dont matter, when if you knew anything about boxing you would know it is directly relative to clean punching and ring generalship.

you have to struggle real hard to give MM 6 rounds knowing damn well he lost every second of the fight in the middle of the ring. so the rounds where he lost when Floyd was on the ropes automatically get chalked up to Floyd.

Ahh yes.. the famous faggity reply anytime someone disagrees with someone in here..

Like I said.. I had Floyd winning 115-113.. The one round I gave to Floyd in the first half wasnt decisive it was close but I thought Floyd edged it out with more accurate punches but a judge sitting at ringside who doesn't get our view in up close high def could've given that round to Maidana... I had Floyd winning the second half decisively except for 2 rounds(where he got dikk punched... Round 8?) where a judge could've given that round to Maidana..you can make an argument for round 8 and 10 in Maidana favor.. btw all 3 judges gave round 1 to Floyd which was complete bullshyt.. percentage matters but you acting like thats the only factor when scoring a round which you know damn well it aint

 

[Newzz]

nikkas like @Skip b says Canelo has no power. Floyd said in the post fight conference that Canelo hits hard and had hit him with a left hook that he can still feel today

 

[surv2syn]

I got no Roy Jones vs Tarver vibes.

thats all I was thinking about last night.

 

[surv2syn]

percentage matters but you acting like thats the only factor when scoring a round which you know damn well it aint

I just explained to you that percentage ties into clean punching and effective aggressiveness. percentage tells a lot about who is in control and who isnt when the disparity is wide

I gave you the criteria. If Floyd dominated 3/4 of the criteria, no way you can score a fight for another guy off the 1 remaining criteria unless he overwhelmingly dominated. but that's the pattern these days and its sickening. just because a guy is coming forward throwing a lot of punches doesnt mean he is winning. you are acting as if EA is the only factor.

 

[Newzz]

thats all I was thinking about last night.

I didn't because in that fight, I felt like Roy did the best he could do and hadahad a tough fight.

This fight, I feel like Floyd could've done more, but wasted the 1st half of the trying to "prove" that he could stand toe to toe with Maidana.

I think Maidana's performance was a combination of what Maidana was doing, but also, what Floyd WASN'T doing. He didn't fight Maidana like normally fights and Maidana was extremely prepared to get the KO or die trying.

I have no doubts Floyd is gonna destroy Maidana in a rematch now that he knows what to expect. The Rematch will look like the 2nd half of this fight.

Maidana did good, but not good enough to win. I compare this fight to Jon Jones vs Alexander Gustafson for my brehs that watch UFC as well

 

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nikkas like @Skip b says Canelo has no power. Floyd said in the post fight conference that Canelo hits hard and had hit him with a left hook that he can still feel today

I would never say Canelo doesnt have power, he obviously does. Sometimes you just dont know whats in guys heads when they make statements. Remember, Floyd said Shane doesnt even hit hard....and he wasnt the only one to say that...other WWs said Shane doesnt hit hard. also it depends on what you got hit with and how much as to what a fighter remembers.

 

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On another note, nikkas thought I was lying when I said Marcos Maidana is better than Lucas Matthysse with Robert Garcia in his corner


Matthysse struggling with John Molina while Maidana was giving that work to Floyd


That AB loss to Maidana doesn't look as bad anymore. Broner won 5 rounds at max against Maidana (3, 5, 6, 7, and 12). ...TBE won 7 rounds at Max.


Maidana with Robert Garcia is a problem brehs


He's a B fighter, but the pressure and volume punching he applies takes his talent up to a B+

fukk out here