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[patscorpio]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Next_Great_Champ

Speaking of Boxing TV shows........

i remember watching a few episodes...other than otis griffin...i dont know any of them other cats lol..i only know otis because jeff lacy struggled to beat him and it was controversial

 

[King P]

http://www.boxingscene.com/photos-canelo-back-camp-july-26th-return--75785

Who's it gonna be?

Lara. Makes the most sense. Molina is dealing with legal issues at the moment. The Charlo brothers aren't ready for that. Kirkland makes sense, but I doubt he'd wanna do business with GBP again.

Only thing that complicates this is that Lara has a fight with Ishe in May. Is that enough time to prepare? Maybe he pulls out of the fight for Canelo?

 

[ChocolateGiddyUp]

Lara got all of May, all of June, N July til the 26th...its a quick turn around but not that bad

jus did something similar for his Mando

 

[SuikodenII]

Lara. Makes the most sense. Molina is dealing with legal issues at the moment. The Charlo brothers aren't ready for that. Kirkland makes sense, but I doubt he'd wanna do business with GBP again.

Only thing that complicates this is that Lara has a fight with Ishe in May. Is that enough time to prepare? Maybe he pulls out of the fight for Canelo?

I would, fukk Ishe Smith

Ishe/Trout would suffice

 

[mr. smoke weed]

Lara gonna beat the shyt out of Ishe--is there a belt on the line? Why are they fighting?

 

[Amare's Right Hook]

thanks man. I am trying to drop a lot of shyt when I go to events

No problem, keep it up. Ill share it

 

[ChocolateGiddyUp]

Lyle Fitzsimmons (Boxing Scene) : 116 - 112 Garcia
Tom Gray (Ring Magazine) : 115-113 Garcia
Phil D Jay (World Boxing News) : 115-113 Garcia
V2 Boxing : 115-114 Garcia
Adam Abramowitz (Saturday Night Boxing) : 116-112 Garcia
Adam Roberts (Check Hook Boxing) : 116-112 Garcia
Lem Sattersfield (Ring Magazine) : 115-113 Garcia
Paul Daley (Top Class Boxing) : 114-114 Draw
Fat Dan (ESPN) : 114-114 Draw
Scott Christ (Bad Left Hook) : 114-114 Draw
Kurt Ward (Boxing Asylum) : 114-114 Draw
Mark Ortega (Ring Magazine) : 114-114 Draw
Livefight.com : 114-114 Draw
Bobby Hunter (Boxing News Online) 114-114 Draw




AND STILL...



#swiftset

 

[Willy Waffle]

Lara gonna beat the shyt out of Ishe--is there a belt on the line? Why are they fighting?

lara is now the "regular wba champion" (please don't ask me how wit the fukkery that goes on with them). it's ishe getting another title shot, plain and simple.

 

[ChocolateGiddyUp]

Mayweather looks out for his TMT crew

Jesse Vargas is a knuckle head for leaving...went from the undercard on Floyd PPVs to milk carton status

I bet TMT woulda got him a belt N headline Showbox or FS1 at the very least

 

[Yuzo]

Because compubox is always correct right breh?Because compubox shows defense and ring generalship. There's multiple things in scoring a fight breh.

punch stats are just a guy in the back nobody even knows about or has ever heard of pressing a button. the punch stat person is not a boxing person or someone that comes from boxing its just somebody that works for the tv network doing a job. punch stats cant measure if a punch was just a grazing shot or if it was a shot that really hurt a fighter. its all the same to the person pressing that punch stat button which means its all just empty numbers and cant really tell you about a real fight. its an attempt to try to turn boxing into a sport but boxing at the most basic level is not a sport the way basketball or baseball is a sport. you cant play boxing. punch stats dont really mean anything some things you just got to pass through your eye test and knowledge on what you know about boxing.

 

[surv2syn]

You ever hear of Fight Promoter University, which is a 3 day seminar in Irvine, CA where they try to teach all aspects of the business & bring in guys to talk about the game like Jim Lampley, Richard Schaffer, etc?

yeah....I been wanting to go to that ever since the first year it started. thought I was gonna be able to go that year and something came up. been keeping up with it every year and they have really grown since inception.

 

[patscorpio]

Lyle Fitzsimmons (Boxing Scene) : 116 - 112 Garcia
Tom Gray (Ring Magazine) : 115-113 Garcia
Phil D Jay (World Boxing News) : 115-113 Garcia
V2 Boxing : 115-114 Garcia
Adam Abramowitz (Saturday Night Boxing) : 116-112 Garcia
Adam Roberts (Check Hook Boxing) : 116-112 Garcia
Lem Sattersfield (Ring Magazine) : 115-113 Garcia
Paul Daley (Top Class Boxing) : 114-114 Draw
Fat Dan (ESPN) : 114-114 Draw
Scott Christ (Bad Left Hook) : 114-114 Draw
Kurt Ward (Boxing Asylum) : 114-114 Draw
Mark Ortega (Ring Magazine) : 114-114 Draw
Livefight.com : 114-114 Draw
Bobby Hunter (Boxing News Online) 114-114 Draw




AND STILL...



#swiftset

finish quoting the whole article for you...an overwhelming majority gave that fight to herrera

http://www.boxingnewsonline.net/lat...anny-garcia-deserved-to-beat-mauricio-herrera

Only 12 per cent of boxing media agree that Danny Garcia deserved to beat Mauricio Herrera
Bobby Hunter investigates the controversial scoring of Danny Garcia's latest victory

IT was meant to be a Homecoming Party for Danny Garcia, fighting for the first time in his father’s birth place of Puerto Rico. The party nearly became a nightmare as unheralded Mauricio Herrera pushed Garcia all the way before losing a hotly-disputed majority decision. In his post-fight interview Garcia said that he would talk to his team about a probable move to the welterweight division, and that he had been fighting at 140lbs for years. It had certainly been a lacklustre performance by the champion, as he allowed Herrera to dictate the pace of the fight. Garcia had looked lethargic from the first bell as Herrera grew in confidence round after round.

Herrera, of California, was boxing well, mixing up, and by moving in and out of range landing sneaky right hands off some harmful jabs to the body. The challenger’s speed was certainly a problem for Garcia, his father and trainer colourfully yelling at him between rounds to up his work.

As the fight entered the championship rounds on my card I had the fighters even. There was open scoring for this bout, certainly a talking point that some are for but many are against as it can have too much impact on how a fighter boxes the remaining rounds if he knows he is miles ahead. Garcia was ahead on the judges’ cards but that didn't stop him having his best round of the fight in the 11th. Herrera did respond in the 12th as he took the fight to the champion, determined to make sure he had scored the upset.

Herrera was to be disappointed. Two judges (Carlos Colon and Alejandro Rochin) scored this fight 116-112 for Garcia. Certainly far too wide for such a close fight. The judge that came out with most respect was Gustavo Padilla who had the fight a draw at 114-114. Garcia remains the champ although his time at 140 could be over with only an unification against Lamont Peterson a possibility. Herrera will hope to remain in the mix for titles, whatever happens to Garcia.


Bobby Hunter's Scorecard

Round 1.... 10-9 Garcia

Round 2.... 9-10 Herrera

Round 3.... 9-10 Herrera

Round 4.... 10-9 Garcia

Round 5.... 9-10 Herrera

Round 6.... 10-9 Garcia

Round 7.... 9-10 Herrera

Round 8.... 10-9 Garcia

Round 9.... 9-10 Herrera

Round 10.. 10-9 Garcia

Round 11.. 10-9 Gracia

Round 12.. 9-10 Herrera

TOTAL : 114-114 DRAW



Compubox Punch Stats

Herrera - 695 Punches thrown, 221 Landed = 32% connect rate
Garcia - 675 Punches thrown, 204 Landed = 30% connect rate



Average Score from Boxing Writers and percentage of votes

115-113 Mauricio Herrera

70 per cent of media scored for Herrera

12.5 per cent of media scored for Garcia

17.5 per cent of media scored fight a Draw

Boxing Media Scores:

Tom Gray (Ring Magazine) : 115-113 Garcia*

Andy Paterson (Boxing Asylum) : 115-113 Herrera

Phil D Jay (World Boxing News) : 115-113 Garcia*

V2 Boxing : 115-114 Garcia*

Paul Daley (Top Class Boxing) : 114-114 Draw **

Alex Morris (KTC Boxing) : 115-113 Herrera

UK Fighthype : 115-113 Herrera

Chris Davies (LCD Boxing) : 116-112 Herrera

John A MacDonald (Live Fight) : 116-112 Herrera

Kevin McRae (Bleacher Report) : 115-113 Herrera

Al Bernstein (Showtime TV) : 116-113 Herrera

Steve Farhood (Showtime TV) : 116-112 Herrera

Paulie Malignaggi (Showtime TV) : 116-113 Herrera

Michael Woods (The Sweet Science) : 116-112 Herrera

Scott Christ (Bad Left Hook) : 114-114 Draw

ESPN : 114-114 Draw **

Adam Abramowitz (Saturday Night Boxing) : 116-112 Garcia*

Adam Roberts (Check Hook Boxing) : 116-112 Garcia*

Victor M Salazar (Tha Boxing Voice) : 115-113 Herrera

Bradley Edwards (Freelance) : 116-112 Herrera

Cliff Rold (Boxingscene) : 115-113 Herrera

John Wharton (KCC Boxing Show) : 114-114 Draw**

Steve Kim (Maxboxing) : 115-113 Herrera

Jessie Ian Lardies (The Boxing Tribune) : 115-113 Herrera

Luis Sandoval (Boxingscene) : 115-113 Herrera

Kurt Ward (Boxing Asylum) : 114-114 Draw**

The Boxing Expert : 116-112 Herrera

Mark Ortega (Ring Magazine) : 114-114 Draw**

Tim Starks (The QueensBerry Rules) : 115-113 Herrera

Tommy Allan (Boxingscene) : 115-113 Herrera

Lem Sattersfield (Ring Magazine) : 115-113 Garcia*

Steve Lillis (Boxnation TV) : 116-112 Herrera

Barry Jones (Boxnation TV) : 116-113 Herrera

Ciaran Shanks (Irvine Times) : 115-114 Herrera

Gabriel Montoya (Maxboxing) : 116-112 Herrera

Mike Coppinger (USA Today) : 115-113 Herrera

Livefight.com : 114-114 Draw**

Boxing.com : 116-112 Herrera

The Cruellest Sport : 115-114 Herrera

lets see what 2 former champions chris byrd and paul vaden have to say along with andre dirrell



lots of 8-4's going around lol

 

[surv2syn]

they have something like that?

yeah breh. they sent me an invitation to it when it first started up. I think it was like $2500 and it was a 3 day course. the one day you did class stuff, another day for hearing speakers and one day you work an actual fight that they put on. its Roy Englebrecht who does it. He started it back in 2006. (for those who dont know, GBP purchased Englebrecht promotions when GBP first opened and Englebrecht was the first COO of GBP.)

http://www.fightpromoteruniversity.com/

just checked the website and they have online course now
I still want to go out and do the class in person. I think it may be a lot cheaper now then when they first started. Plus its expanded. They do MMA and all now. It was a great idea for Roy to start this and he has been making money from it ever since. I just hate that I missed it the first couple of years and time has flown by. now you got people attending it from different countries.

after I buy my new spot this year and get that outta the way, I am going in December. maybe one you may go too!

 

[patscorpio]

yeah breh. they sent me an invitation to it when it first started up. I think it was like $2500 and it was a 3 day course. the one day you did class stuff, another day for hearing speakers and one day you work an actual fight that they put on. its Roy Englebrecht who does it. He started it back in 2006. (for those who dont know, GBP purchased Englebrecht promotions when GBP first opened and Englebrecht was the first COO of GBP.)

http://www.fightpromoteruniversity.com/

just checked the website and they have online course now
I still want to go out and do the class in person. I think it may be a lot cheaper now then when they first started. Plus its expanded. They do MMA and all now. It was a great idea for Roy to start this and he has been making money from it ever since. I just hate that I missed it the first couple of years and time has flown by. now you got people attending it from different countries.

after I buy my new spot this year and get that outta the way, I am going in December. maybe one you may go too!

i might one day out of curiosity but that promoter life isnt for me...my homie, who is on hank lundy's team and who deals with other fighters, goes through some shyt with these fighters..the stories he's told me about the fukkery they get into..they are like babysitters at times lol

 

[Newzz]

Lyle Fitzsimmons (Boxing Scene) : 116 - 112 Garcia
Tom Gray (Ring Magazine) : 115-113 Garcia
Phil D Jay (World Boxing News) : 115-113 Garcia
V2 Boxing : 115-114 Garcia
Adam Abramowitz (Saturday Night Boxing) : 116-112 Garcia
Adam Roberts (Check Hook Boxing) : 116-112 Garcia
Lem Sattersfield (Ring Magazine) : 115-113 Garcia
Paul Daley (Top Class Boxing) : 114-114 Draw
Fat Dan (ESPN) : 114-114 Draw
Scott Christ (Bad Left Hook) : 114-114 Draw
Kurt Ward (Boxing Asylum) : 114-114 Draw
Mark Ortega (Ring Magazine) : 114-114 Draw
Livefight.com : 114-114 Draw
Bobby Hunter (Boxing News Online) 114-114 Draw




AND STILL...



#swiftset

finish quoting the whole article for you...an overwhelming majority gave that fight to herrera

http://www.boxingnewsonline.net/lat...anny-garcia-deserved-to-beat-mauricio-herrera



lets see what 2 former champions chris byrd and paul vaden have to say along with andre dirrell



lots of 8-4's going around lol

#swiftset not reporting back the all the scorecards and trying to manipulate your fellow brehs?