Essential The Official Boxing Random Thoughts Thread...All boxing heads ENTER.
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*sees Bradley only landed 19% of his punches in the fight compared to Manny landing 34% of his total punches*
I never had Bradley winning the fight period, and I JUST looked at the compubox numbers today for the 1st time. I have no dog in this fight, but facts are facts
I feel you breh, it's just that nikkas love going against the grain.
is he going to fight again anytime soon though#SOGgang
is he going to fight again anytime soon though
I think the better question is, is there anybody that is ready to step up to the challenge and fight him?
He's called out GGG, he's called out JCC Jr (who's now at 168 and they both fight on HBO), but neither of em want that work
He's gonna have to move up to 175 eventually and beat up on those unskilled cats (unskilled except Hopkins), because everyone at 160 and 168 is scared of him
People ask why does he keep calling out GGG, because GGG and JCC Jr fights with Andre Ward are PPVs and makes him more money than him fighting anyone at 175......including Bernard Hopkins. He wants that large payday and he's waiting around for it.
But, but but Bradley was on roller skates out boxing Manny and making him look stupid breh. You not judging the ring generalship of Timmy. I think you might have to watch this fight on mute and look at it in slow motion. I'm sure you'll have Bradley winning once you do.
this is the one thing about this fight that ppl say that pisses me off....
"i watched it on mute twice...without hearing the crowd or jim lampley...bradley def won it based on that...try doing that"
...im not deaf so why wouldn’t i want to hear whats going on? 
...ok so based off that logic let me go watch rios-abril again with the sound off...and based on that id agree that rios won the fight and not by sight where it looked like abril shut em out on the cards..stupid ass nikkas man
He should go up to 175 right nowI think the better question is, is there anybody that is ready to step up to the challenge and fight him?
He's called out GGG, he's called out JCC Jr (who's now at 168 and they both fight on HBO), but neither of em want that work
He's gonna have to move up to 175 eventually and beat up on those unskilled cats (unskilled except Hopkins), because everyone at 160 and 168 is scared of him
People ask why does he keep calling out GGG, because GGG and JCC Jr fights with Andre Ward are PPVs and makes him more money than him fighting anyone at 175......including Bernard Hopkins. He wants that large payday and he's waiting around for it.
hes cleaned up his division
also no one wants to fight in oakland, stevenson is filling up 15k arenas in canada
SuikodenII
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I don't know if the record label example is the same, since that's bound by contracts, but I get what you're saying. OFF the books, they're actually under Top Rank and do what they tell them to do. On the books, they're an independent promotional company that just so happens to do most to all of their business with Top Rank and HBO
The game is all fukked up B
this is the one thing about this fight that ppl say that pisses me off....
"i watched it on mute twice...without hearing the crowd or jim lampley...bradley def won it based on that...try doing that"
Exactly
I swear the shyt people say in order to justify their bad scoring.
For example Paulie throws a bunch of jabs at Broner that don't land and the 1 or 2 that do have no effect, yet some nikkas still think that was a close fight or gift decision.
Herrera throws a bunch of jabs that actually land and do physical/visual damage, yet now the focus is power shots now. nikkas weren't trying to hear that power punching shyt when Broner was snapping Paulies head back every damn round. Garcia's power shots never had that type of effect, but it's supposed to count for more for some reason.
Canelo/Trout is another one, but at least with Canelo's power shots he got a knockdown and hurt Trout like 2-3 times. Power shots don't mean much if they not hurting your opponent or making them back up or snap they head back.
It's like the scoring criteria changes for each fight.
I don't know if the record label example is the same, since that's bound by contracts, but I get what you're saying. OFF the books, they're actually under Top Rank and do what they tell them to do. On the books, they're an independent promotional company that just so happens to do most to all of their business with Top Rank and HBO
The game is all fukked up B
right...thats the difference....the contracts. I wont say they DONT have a contract with TR but I dont suspect they do. Ruslan is Banner's fighter. Alvarado is TR's fighter. People get confused about it. Really, if Pelullo wanted to work with GBP, I dont think there is anything stopping him contractually. As you say, the game is fukked up because if he tried that...GBP will tell him they arent fukking with him as long as he is working with Bob and TR will tell him to go fukk himself if he does biz with GBP. HBO has given BP their opportunity and they dont have enough star power on their roster to say we gonna go fukk with Showtime.
So contractually I dont think there is anything stopping a Swift vs Prov fight from happening.
In the cold war, one has to choose his side. Pelullo chose TR because he had already been working with them before GBP came into existence. When you have an alliance that long, you cant just switch sides.
Exactly
I swear the shyt people say in order to justify their bad scoring.
For example Paulie throws a bunch of jabs at Broner that don't land and the 1 or 2 that do have no effect, yet some nikkas still think that was a close fight or gift decision.
Herrera throws a bunch of jabs that actually land and do physical/visual damage, yet now the focus is power shots now. nikkas weren't trying to hear that power punching shyt when Broner was snapping Paulies head back every damn round. Garcia's power shots never had that type of effect, but it's supposed to count for more for some reason.
Canelo/Trout is another one, but at least with Canelo's power shots he got a knockdown and hurt Trout like 2-3 times. Power shots don't mean much if they not hurting your opponent or making them back up or snap they head back.
It's like the scoring criteria changes for each fight.
5 of Ward's last 10 fights have been in Oakland (and that's mainly because of the Super Six)
His last 5 fights have been in:
Oakland vs Sakio Bika
Carson, California vs Arthur Abraham
Atlantic City vs Carl Froch
Oakland vs Chad Dawson
Ontario, California vs Edwin Rodriguez
So he doesnt ALWAYS fight in Oakland. Besides, a fight with JCC Jr or GGG can be done in Staples Center....which is where I believe Ward is gonna have to start fighting soon.
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Andre Ward Options:
-Froch-Groves winner (Much BETTER if Groves wins, since Froch refuses to take a rematch in Oaktown)
-GGG/Chavez Jr winner (No guarantee he'd get the winner since both turned him down, one wants to jump to 175, the other wants Martinez/Cotto winner)
-Sakio Bika 2 for unification (Golden Boy/Showtime.........maybe, he's not on their website...Was completely shut-out last time)
-Arthur Abraham 2 for unification (Abraham clearly beaten the first time though he put on a spirited effort)
-Robert Stieglitz (Was KO'd the last two times he fought in the U.S., strictly a stay busy against a top 10 168 coming off a close loss in his rubber-match with AA)
-Andre Dirrell (Refused the fight during the Super 6, now signed with 50, not sure if anything has changed)
-Anthony Dirrell (Coming off somewhat controversial draw to Sakio Bika)
-Mikkel Kessler 2 (I'm sure Kessler wants to avenge this loss, but he was soundly dominated the first time around)
-James DeGale (I like this option, DeGale was supposed to have to fight Badou Jack for a final eliminator, now he's in limbo)
-Brian Vera (REALLY grasping at straws here.......)
-J'Leon Love (^^read above)
That's 168, unless he takes someone no one has ever heard of
Andre Ward Options:
-Froch-Groves winner (Much BETTER if Groves wins, since Froch refuses to take a rematch in Oaktown)
-GGG/Chavez Jr winner (No guarantee he'd get the winner since both turned him down, one wants to jump to 175, the other wants Martinez/Cotto winner)
-Sakio Bika 2 for unification (Golden Boy/Showtime.........maybe, he's not on their website...Was completely shut-out last time)
-Arthur Abraham 2 for unification (Abraham clearly beaten the first time though he put on a spirited effort)
-Robert Stieglitz (Was KO'd the last two times he fought in the U.S., strictly a stay busy against a top 10 168 coming off a close loss in his rubber-match with AA)
-Andre Dirrell (Refused the fight during the Super 6, now signed with 50, not sure if anything has changed)
-Anthony Dirrell (Coming off somewhat controversial draw to Sakio Bika)
-Mikkel Kessler 2 (I'm sure Kessler wants to avenge this loss, but he was soundly dominated the first time around)
-James DeGale (I like this option, DeGale was supposed to have to fight Badou Jack for a final eliminator, now he's in limbo)
-Brian Vera (REALLY grasping at straws here.......)
-J'Leon Love (^^read above)
That's 168, unless he takes someone no one has ever heard of
Got dayum
Those are some slim pickings right there.
Andre Ward Options:
-Froch-Groves winner (Much BETTER if Groves wins, since Froch refuses to take a rematch in Oaktown)
-GGG/Chavez Jr winner (No guarantee he'd get the winner since both turned him down, one wants to jump to 175, the other wants Martinez/Cotto winner)
-Sakio Bika 2 for unification (Golden Boy/Showtime.........maybe, he's not on their website...Was completely shut-out last time)
-Arthur Abraham 2 for unification (Abraham clearly beaten the first time though he put on a spirited effort)
-Robert Stieglitz (Was KO'd the last two times he fought in the U.S., strictly a stay busy against a top 10 168 coming off a close loss in his rubber-match with AA)
-Andre Dirrell (Refused the fight during the Super 6, now signed with 50, not sure if anything has changed)
-Anthony Dirrell (Coming off somewhat controversial draw to Sakio Bika)
-Mikkel Kessler 2 (I'm sure Kessler wants to avenge this loss, but he was soundly dominated the first time around)
-James DeGale (I like this option, DeGale was supposed to have to fight Badou Jack for a final eliminator, now he's in limbo)
-Brian Vera (REALLY grasping at straws here.......)
-J'Leon Love (^^read above)
That's 168, unless he takes someone no one has ever heard of
