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He was flabby and the ref for that fight was terrible if I remember correctly.

What agenda am I trying to push?

 

[Newzz]

Yeah, Kostya Tszyu wasnt washed up. Ricky Hatton WASHED him up and mauled that nikka


I really believe that Hatton, fighting in England, was one of the hardest opponents to beat. That mauling style + the ref letting his "rough em up" style go unpenalized + his stamina + his toughness + his aggressiveness + that atmosphere (chanting, the singing, the band) =


I miss old Ricky Hatton fights brehs

 

[krackdagawd]

You just trying to big up Hatton as a way to big up Floyd via proxy

 

[Skip b]

You just trying to big up Hatton as a way to big up Floyd via proxy

Lets not act like Floyd wasn't ducking Hatton


Hatton KT TKO>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Any Cotto win deal with it..........

 

[Newzz]

http://www.fighthype.com/news/article15879.html


Wow

First time I've heard some saying they didn't even like his chances at 140........ @Newzz agree or disagree?

I disagree.

First of all, AB was fighting Maidana.....Thurman was fighting Soto-Karass. Maidana is a bigger puncher and a much better fighter/boxer than Soto-Karass.

Secondly, if recent washed up Zab can survive at 140 (and he's naturally smaller than AB), than why couldnt AB?


I definitely disagree with Al Bernstein

 

[krackdagawd]

Lets not act like Floyd wasn't ducking Hatton


Hatton KT TKO>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Any Cotto win deal with it..........

I don't give a fukk about Cotto breh.

 

[SuikodenII]

"All the stories you hear about Pacquiao is a lie," stated pound-for-pound king Floyd "Money" Mayweather, who set the record straight regarding any and all rumors linking him to a potential 2014 showdown with Manny Pacquiao. Last month, reports first surfaced about a proposed meeting that Pacquiao was hoping to have with the undefeated welterweight and jr. middleweight champion. It didn't take long for that rumor to transform into the latest misleading story, where a "source" allegedly claimed that a Mayweather vs. Pacquiao showdown was a "done deal" for this September.

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@ those text messages

 

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I disagree.

First of all, AB was fighting Maidana.....Thurman was fighting Soto-Karass. Maidana is a bigger puncher and a much better fighter/boxer than Soto-Karass.

Secondly, if recent washed up Zab can survive at 140 (and he's naturally smaller than AB), than why couldnt AB?


I definitely disagree with Al Bernstein

Dude if a half dead corpse looking Morales can box the shyt out of Maidana far outside of his natural division, Broner aint built for that 140 life , get that through your head nikka


There's levels to this shyt and Broner is a c class fighter

 

[Newzz]

Matter of fact @SuikodenII....didnt Maidana TKO Soto-Karass?

He's a much stronger fighter and better fighter, while Thurman is a much bigger and stronger fighter than AB is. There's no comparision in their 2 fights in my mind. Besides, AB DID recover and started walking down Maidana and even hit him with some great shots as well. People try to act like it was just a Maidana beating from pillar to post from round 1 thru 12, but that's not true

Like Julian Williams said:

PC: Before I let you go, I gotta let you touch on the Adrien Broner situation because you were very vocal on your Facebook page basically stating that boxing media and fans alike kind of prey on certain fighter's downfall. I wanted to let you elaborate on that.

JW: I just didn't like the fact that so many people were so happy, and I don't want to make it a race thing because I seen black people happy, Mexicans, just so many people happy that this kid lost. And he brought a lot of this stuff on himself because some of the things he do is extremely ignorant, but first of all, what he choose to do with his life, in his personal life and with his money, is all his business. Now, he makes it other people's business when he put it on social networks and World Star and stuff like that, but at the end of the day, I just don't agree with nobody wishing bad on anybody. It kind of like really got me pissed off a little bit because let me tell you something, Brandon Rios is the same kind of a$$hole that Adrien Broner is and he don't get none of the blame for it. They didn't even give him a hard time about the failed drug test; he gets on TV and curse, he made fun of the great Freddie Roach, he does a lot of things, but he don't get none of the flack that Adrien Broner gets. And I don't know why, you know what I mean, but I just don't like it. And I don't like nobody preying on someone's downfall because listen, let me tell you something, they don't talk about how much nuts the kid got. That shyt is not easy getting up two times from being hurt badly, and he was coming forward at the end of that fight. He still lost the fight, but he showed tons of heart. This boxing shyt is not a game; this shyt not basketball and ain't none of that shyt funny when people want to do up pictures of a man hurt or knocked out. I take my hat off to Adrien Broner because he showed a lot of heart and he kept on pushing. He talked all that shyt he talked and, in my opinion, he backed it up; he just didn't win.

The same way I feel. nikkas acting like AB was Ricky Hatton'd vs Pacquiao or something. And he was the smaller fighter, but STILL came forward. Aint no Maidana's at 140

 

[InvictusAeternusEternus]

@ those text messages

 

[Newzz]

Dude if a half dead corpse looking Morales can box the shyt out of Maidana far outside of his natural division, Broner aint built for that 140 life , get that through your head nikka


There's levels to this shyt and Broner is a c class fighter

You said Paulie Malignaggi is now a top 5 WW, because he beat Zab Judah


I dont wanna hear anything you have to say about the 147 division

 

[Skip b]

You said Paulie Malignaggi is now a top 5 WW, because he beat Zab Judah


I dont wanna hear anything you have to say about the 147 division

He exposed Broner first, he gets major credit for that, does Maidana chose to dummy fight and outwork/outmaul Broner if there wasn't no blueprint on his 10 punch a round throwing ass


Post where I said top 5 WW

 

[SuikodenII]

Matter of fact @SuikodenII.

Aint no Maidana's at 140

Yeah you right.......there's three BETTER Maidana's at 140, Garcia, Matthysse and Provodnikov

 

[Newzz]

Yeah you right.......there's three BETTER Maidana's at 140, Garcia, Matthysse and Provodnikov

Prov? Yall gotta stop overrating him until he beats somebody official first

Garcia? He's the King at 140

And Matthysse? He's still on the bubble to me. He can be the real deal or a real hype job truthfully. He's lost all 3 fights to his best 3 opponents to be honest

What I meant about them not being Maidana, is that they are smaller than Maidana and dont have his reach or punching output. Plus he has just as much punching power or more. That's what bothered Broner. The fact he was so much smaller than Maidana. Broner is bigger than both Matthysse and Prov.

Danny Garcia though? We dont want those problems yet

 

[SuikodenII]

Prov? Yall gotta stop overrating him until he beats somebody official first

Garcia? He's the King at 140

And Matthysse? He's still on the bubble to me. He can be the real deal or a real hype job truthfully. He's lost all 3 fights to his best 3 opponents to be honest

What I meant about them not being Maidana, is that they are smaller than Maidana and dont have his reach or punching output. Plus he has just as much punching power or more. That's what bothered Broner. The fact he was so much smaller than Maidana. Broner is bigger than both Matthysse and Prov.

Danny Garcia though? We dont want those problems yet

Aight.......Provodnikov you can hide behind the Berlin Wall, so no worries there. Garcia, well you're quick to back down, so no worries there. Matthysse.......you already know your avi would be replaced, keep thinking Lucas ain't a problem solver.....better pray nightly that fight never happens