Essential The Official Boxing Random Thoughts Thread...All boxing heads ENTER.
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seemorecizzy
Superstar
bradley d like khan talk to him like he was a little hoe and did nothing but walk away
i would love to see him and floyd fight
but i don't want to hear any trash talking from him until he "gets some balls"
SuikodenII
Where's Suikoden VI??????
Since the year is over, and I live in the realm of reality and not a world where there's no Cold War, I'm just gonna speak my mind...........
Mayweather-Garcia>>>>Mayweather-Matthysse>>>Mayweather-Lara>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Mayweather-Peterson>>>Mayweather-Maidana>>>Mayweather-Khan
Yeah.......that's how I feel.........
and on that note......
Bradley-Pacquiao II with Rios-Alvarado III, Provodnikov-Mayfield and Khabib-Vargas on the under-card, I'd buy.........that's my word............
Mayweather-Garcia>>>>Mayweather-Matthysse>>>Mayweather-Lara>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Mayweather-Peterson>>>Mayweather-Maidana>>>Mayweather-Khan
Yeah.......that's how I feel.........
and on that note......
Bradley-Pacquiao II with Rios-Alvarado III, Provodnikov-Mayfield and Khabib-Vargas on the under-card, I'd buy.........that's my word............
King P
Legends Never Die
Problem?
Not sure if you are familiar with Wilfred Benitez, but he's one of the greatest defensive boxers ever.
seemorecizzy
Superstar
he's not the counter puncher floyd is
and floyd is a lot better than him period
King P
Legends Never Die
Benitez is a master counter puncher and Floyd is not "a lot better". You're underrating Benitez.
To each his own though
I agree with Manny Steward to a degree, but its really not fair to make a hypothetical match up between these two because they were at their best at different weights. Its hard for me to see Floyd beating Hearns at 147....but at 130...a weight Hearns never fought at, Floyd Mayweather was absolutely invisible. His footwork, movement and laser like accuracy.....
a better matchup would be maybe Sweet Pea and Floyd at 135.
King P
Legends Never Die
Very true. There are certain people that I feel are damn near unbeatable at certain weights. And Floyd fits the bill. At 130, Pretty Boy Floyd is basically invincible.I agree with Manny Steward to a degree, but its really not fair to make a hypothetical match up between these two because they were at their best at different weights. Its hard for me to see Floyd beating Hearns at 147....but at 130...a weight Hearns never fought at, Floyd Mayweather was absolutely invisible. His footwork, movement and laser like accuracy.....
a better matchup would be maybe Sweet Pea and Floyd at 135.
Same with Duran at 135, Hearns at 147, Roy Jones at 168.
Larry Holmes holds a special place for me because I grew up watching his career since he beat Ali. Larry Holmes was underrated because he was in an era devoid of the big names and because he didnt talk a lot of shyt. He truly didnt believe anyone could beat him. Some fighters mentally were just giants. Holmes, Toney, Hagler....
He made the point about parity with c00ney. the issue is that Holmes was never a HUGE star like Floyd, Manny, Oscar, or SRL and didnt have the leeway over other fighters in his era to command taking a lion's share of the purse, hence the c00ney situation...where he even was introduced first and he was the champion!!!
But he did it. He was totally disrespected...but he let his fists do the talking. once he started measuring you with the jab (a tactic that refs normally do not allow now and a tactic Lennox bit off of Holmes) you were food for real.
and that wasnt a typo....you said invincible, I said INVISIBLE....meaning that with his footwork, movement and that damn shoulder roll, it was hard to even lay a glove on him.
King P
Legends Never Die
No I got what you said. I'm saying he is invincible. I don't see anybody beating Floyd at 130. He was that damn good at that weight
SRL over Hearns parallels Floyd over Corrales. I think had Corrales been able to stay at 130 after Floyd left, he wouldve been damn near unbeatable himself. A legend. As Corrales moved up, he gave away more of his freakish advantages. At 130....he had lights out power from 12" punches. speaking of which.....mostly all the big punchers I knew of had big hands and lighter punchers smaller. Corrales had huge hands, way bigger than Floyd. Roy Jones Jr hands.....? Huge.
yeah, I know, he was invincible too. at 130....damn...who was better?
This era the champs don't fight each other. Who is the undisputed champion right now?
Corrales was overrated.
the thing about Floyd is, he is one of those fighters that you really cant see what it is that makes him great off just video alone. he is like the perfectly tuned guitar. Benitez was a master and just as good a counter puncher as Floyd. actually, Floyd aint got a claim to being the greatest counter puncher or greatest defensive fighter for that matter. what it is though, he puts together great elements of everything...almost perfect and he doesnt make mistakes. he does subtle little things that you just cant put a finger on. he's not the greatest athlete to lace em up, I think thats RJJ. he is not the greatest defensively, I think that is Sweet Pea. if I have to give him a distinction, I would have to say he is the most balanced and least flawed fighter I have ever seen.