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http://www.boxingscene.com/jorge-barrios-falls-on-hard-times-now-selling-shoes--73105

By Elisinio Castillo

Former WBO super featherweight champion Jorge "La Hyena" Barrios (50-4-1, 35KOs) of Argentina is financially struggling. Barrios, 37 years old, first went pro in 1996 and he was involved in several big fights in the United States.

According to overseas reports, Barrios is now selling shoes to make ends meet.

The career of Barrios came to a halt in 2010 when he faced a big criminal trial which stemmed from a car accident on January 24th of that year in Mar del Plata. The accident killed a young pregnant woman.

Since overcoming the criminal charges, Barrios has been unable to schedule a fight and he announced his retirement in January of this year.

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Maidana calling out floyd like that?
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Now, JKC was king, and there was also Katsuo Tokashiki, the reformed hard headed youth out of the same gym as the legendary Yoko Gushiken. Tokashiki's reign as the #2 guy (or even higher depending on who you ask) would be threatened like never before against Mexican Lupe Madera, a journeyman and sparring partner to other great fighters. In their first bout, Tokashiki won a very close decision which could've went either way. The 2nd bout ended the same way resulting in a third bout in which Tokashiki injured Madera with a clash of heads prompting a technical decision in which Madera was leading on all three scorecards. Doesn't sound like much of a title victory which lead to a 4th bout (on some Pacquiao/Marquez ish) in which Madera was finally able to show that he was a rightful belt holder and won a close decision taking the fight to Tokashiki as he always had. It was one of many stories of perseverance in the sport of boxing from an underdog and in the spirit of competition decided to give a shot to the wildly undeserving Francisco Quiroz who boosted a record of 9-10-1. What follows would either be routine work against a soft journeyman, or an upset that throws the 108lb division into disarray.......watch and find out....​
 

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If ortiz come's back Vicious instead of Vulnerable I could see him smashing Collazo and having an excellent fade with Dr. Left Hook

knowing luis he will play the role of a spoiler..most likely victor will win but it will be on the level of a job...i.e. luis makes him look real bad like he did against hatton and berto but because there's money in ortiz will take a draw or a loss..luis is gonna have to stop him
 

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Now, JKC was king, and there was also Katsuo Tokashiki, the reformed hard headed youth out of the same gym as the legendary Yoko Gushiken. Tokashiki's reign as the #2 guy (or even higher depending on who you ask) would be threatened like never before against Mexican Lupe Madera, a journeyman and sparring partner to other great fighters. In their first bout, Tokashiki won a very close decision which could've went either way. The 2nd bout ended the same way resulting in a third bout in which Tokashiki injured Madera with a clash of heads prompting a technical decision in which Madera was leading on all three scorecards. Doesn't sound like much of a title victory which lead to a 4th bout (on some Pacquiao/Marquez ish) in which Madera was finally able to show that he was a rightful belt holder and won a close decision taking the fight to Tokashiki as he always had. It was one of many stories of perseverance in the sport of boxing from an underdog and in the spirit of competition decided to give a shot to the wildly undeserving Francisco Quiroz who boosted a record of 9-10-1. What follows would either be routine work against a soft journeyman, or an upset that throws the 108lb division into disarray.......watch and find out....​


quiroz might be the only world champ to actually retire with a losing record...dude managed to have a successful title defense too..boxing: the theater of the unexpected lol
 

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Manny’s Always On My Mind: Floyd Mayweather Jr.’s Obsession with Manny Pacquiao
By Robert Montgomery | Published December 27, 2013 | 47 Comments

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Floyd Mayweather Jr.’s auxiliary goal in the sport of boxing, for over four years now, seems to have been to tear down the image of Manny Pacquiao in any way he can. Floyd can’t and/or won’t do it in the ring so he does it outside of the ring with racial and ethnic slurs, mocking insults, false and damaging accusations, and various other attempted belittlements. A mission of sorts, clearly Manny has been on Floyd’s mind more than Floyd has been on his.

Floyd likely hoped Manny was done, once and for all, after Marquez knocked him out last year, likely betting that he would never have to face him in the ring or to compete with him again in any venue or on any level. But Manny came back in impressive style and now, Floyd can’t handle it. He thought Marquez had put out Pacquiao’s lights permanently. Instead, they are shining again, and even if not as brightly as before, there remains a strong glimmer of hope and confidence for, and in the man. Floyd Mayweather Jr. simply cannot handle this truth.

Here’s a question: If Manny is so insignificant, if he’s so much lesser than Floyd, if he’s not on Floyd’s level, if Floyd won’t fight him until he leaves Bob Arum, why is Floyd wasting so much brain and vocal energy on Manny Pacquiao?


Among the answers to that question might be envy, jealousy, contempt, and hate. These appear to be the emotions and thoughts that Floyd Mayweather Jr. has for Manny Pacquiao. Floyd has demonstrated these traits over and over and over through the years, from PED use accusations, to cell phone video rants, to calling the man a “midget” and “yellow” (referring to his race, not his courage), and recently, he published an insulting “Christmas Card” and artwork of him supposedly smashing Manny Pacquiao in the ring. The man works so visibly hard to demonstrate his hate for Manny Pacquiao. But why?

Perhaps Floyd Mayweather Jr. is obsessed with Manny Pacquiao and he cannot cope with Pacquiao’s greatness. This is not to say Pac would beat him if they fought—or vice-a-versa. But there is something about Manny Pacquiao that Floyd just cannot let go of. Maybe it’s because where Floyd Mayweather Jr. is well-known, Manny Pacquiao is an international hero. Maybe it’s because where Floyd Mayweather Jr. is the highest paid athlete in professional sports, Manny Pacquiao has more followers and fans than any other single athlete in the world. Maybe it’s because while Floyd Mayweather Jr. burns one hundred dollar bills and boasts about all his white luxury cars, Manny Pacquiao is recognized as a savior to his Filipino brothers and sisters.

Mayweather has demonstrated a foolishly abusive nature that has been checked only once by a short jail term. Well, actually it’s been checked twice, at least: Once by the jail term, and a second time by the out-of-court monetary settlement (a hefty one, no doubt) and written settlement agreement he had to give Manny Pacquiao for levying unsubstantiated PED-use accusations against him (You can smell the hate brewed from that). Yet, the foolish streak in Floyd Mayweather Jr. is as big as his ability to earn money, to be a super star, and to become a celebrity. The black spot of foolishness is more evident in Floyd Mayweather Jr. than the yellow streak that runs down the back of a coward.

Alas for Floyd, Manny Pacquiao has proven to himself to be a champion not only in the ring, but in heart, mind, and disposition as well. This is a type of champion that Mayweather has no idea of how to confront, much less to defeat. While Floyd relies on narcissistic bragging, insults, racial and ethnic attacks, and other low-handed efforts in an attempt to bring Pacquiao down while bolstering himself up at the same time, Manny counters with silence, humility, a smile, and peace. He gives Floyd no fuel for the shameful fire that burns within him and which Floyd cannot extinguish, because Floyd is his worst enemy in spite of himself. Floyd Mayweather acts like a big man on the outside, but on the inside it appears that he is very, very small.


50 years from now their portraits, dedication, and history will be on display in the Boxing Hall of Fame. 50 years from now Floyd Mayweather Jr. will still be remembered for his amazing boxing skills, his wealth, his business acumen, and quite possibly, as the greatest boxer to ever grace the sport.

In comparison, Manny Pacquiao will also be remembered as a fine boxer and warrior and like Mayweather, as one of the greatest boxers of all time. But he will also be remembered as a humble warrior with an undefeatable spirit, as a humanitarian, a savior, a man for the people, and as a leader.


If Floyd is lucky, his portrait, memorabilia and written history will be placed right next to that of Manny Pacquiao in the Boxing Hall of Fame. This will ensure that the biggest thorn in Mayweather’s side will be there to haunt him for as long as the Boxing Hall of Fame exists. And if there truly is an afterlife in which spirits have the power of voice and action, Floyd can continue to rant about Manny Pacquiao for all eternity. That should make his soul feel good. But who would listen? Or care?

To obsess is to need. At the end of the day, Floyd Mayweather Jr. needs Manny Pacquiao. Floyd cannot be as great as he thinks he is without having Manny Pacquiao by his side—in one way or another. Sad, really. If Manny Pacquiao is not on Floyd’s level, why does Floyd continue to stoop so ”low?”


Read more at http://www.eastsideboxing.com/2013/mannys-always-on-my-mind-floyd-mayweather-jr-s-obsession-with-manny-pacquiao/#E8DujXkcre40qYLz.99

Now, I agree that Floyd just randomly throws shots at Manny....which is bullshyt if you aint gonna fight him....but, they way Manny is painted is so "holy" and "innocent" and "he just wants to box and help his fellow country men"

:comeon:


Manny, like Floyd, has done his fair share of dirt which has been swept under the rug in order to preserve his "image".

shyt like:

Rumors of Pacquiao's Charlie Sheen--like behavior had flooded boxing message boards, but few people knew the full extent of it. They didn't know about the cases of Johnny Walker Blue that Pacquiao had shipped to the Philippines and swilled late into the night. They didn't know that in recent years the fighter, who earns $25 million to $30 million per bout, had been forced to go to his promoter, Bob Arum, for cash to pay his gambling debts. One associate recalls that Pacquiao asked Arum for a $2 million advance on a purse. Arum says that "five or six times" he has wired hundreds of thousands of dollars to casinos. "[Manny] had one of the worst gambling habits of any athlete I've ever known," says Arum. "He was addicted to it."

Most people also didn't know the extent of his infidelity, though Jinkee certainly did. Last November she flew to Las Vegas, where Pacquiao was preparing to face Juan Manuel Márquez. Pacquiao thought she was coming to watch the fight; according to sources close to him, she told him she wanted a divorce. "They weren't getting along," says his trainer, Freddie Roach, "and it really shook him up." On the day of the fight Manny went to Jinkee's room to ask her to ride with him to the arena. The two argued for 40 minutes, pushing a scheduled 6 p.m. arrival to 7 and leaving Manny just enough time to dress and warm up with Roach for 10 minutes before going to the ring. Pacquiao won a narrow decision that easily could have gone the other way.


http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1199967/1/index.htm

Now, this is what I'm talking about. This is rarely talked about. How come whenever people bring up Mayweather, usually talks about HIM as a person end up coming up? However, when we talk about Manny, all his personal stuff is left out of the convo? It's not fair to Floyd. If we gonna take skeletons out of his closet....it's only fair we do so to Manny as well.

Looking at this article and the way they paint Manny as such a humble, peaceful, loving family man in order to slight Floyd and all along Manny was basically living like a college student up until last year is crazy:dead:

Yes, Floyd be on some bullshyt with his excuses and the stupid internet memes if he has no intentions to fight Manny Pacquiao, but the media and people need to stop trying to compare and contrast them as if Floyd's just some savage, ignorant, foolish, buffoon and Manny is just an innocent, humble, peacemaker who fights for his country and just wants to help those in need:usure:

The only reason I'm bringing this up, is because the end of the article where the author is talking about in 50 years Manny will remembered as "...a humble warrior with an undefeatable spirit, as a humanitarian, a savior, a man for the people, and as a leader.":bryan:

That may be true in 50 years, but that's not true of Manny Pacquiao himself. Just like Floyd is a woman beater and cheater, Manny was an alcoholic, gambling obssessed, cheater as well. Both men have flaws and if you're gonna use ones flaws against themselves...it's only right to bring up the others flaws as well.


*End Rant*
 

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Now, I agree that Floyd just randomly throws shots at Manny....which is bullshyt if you aint gonna fight him....but, they way Manny is painted is so "holy" and "innocent" and "he just wants to box and help his fellow country men"

:comeon:


Manny, like Floyd, has done his fair share of dirt which has been swept under the rug in order to preserve his "image".

shyt like:



Now, this is what I'm talking about. This is rarely talked about. How come whenever people bring up Mayweather, usually talks about HIM as a person end up coming up? However, when we talk about Manny, all his personal stuff is left out of the convo? It's not fair to Floyd. If we gonna take skeletons out of his closet....it's only fair we do so to Manny as well.

Looking at this article and the way they paint Manny as such a humble, peaceful, loving family man in order to slight Floyd and all along Manny was basically living like a college student up until last year is crazy:dead:

Yes, Floyd be on some bullshyt with his excuses and the stupid internet memes if he has no intentions to fight Manny Pacquiao, but the media and people need to stop trying to compare and contrast them as if Floyd's just some savage, ignorant, foolish, buffoon and Manny is just an innocent, humble, peacemaker who fights for his country and just wants to help those in need:usure:

The only reason I'm bringing this up, is because the end of the article where the author is talking about in 50 years Manny will remembered as "...a humble warrior with an undefeatable spirit, as a humanitarian, a savior, a man for the people, and as a leader.":bryan:

That may be true in 50 years, but that's not true of Manny Pacquiao himself. Just like Floyd is a woman beater and cheater, Manny was an alcoholic, gambling obssessed, cheater as well. Both men have flaws and if you're gonna use ones flaws against themselves...it's only right to bring up the others flaws as well.


*End Rant*

I knew it even then, you could see it on his face. The killer was gone replaced by a puppy eyed man with his balls in his wife's purse. In the pre fight interviews he sounded like a cult member, "if God is with me than who can be against me". I knew right then he was going to lose, she forced him to become something he is not and it killed his fire.
 

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Now, I agree that Floyd just randomly throws shots at Manny....which is bullshyt if you aint gonna fight him....but, they way Manny is painted is so "holy" and "innocent" and "he just wants to box and help his fellow country men"

:comeon:


Manny, like Floyd, has done his fair share of dirt which has been swept under the rug in order to preserve his "image".

shyt like:



Now, this is what I'm talking about. This is rarely talked about. How come whenever people bring up Mayweather, usually talks about HIM as a person end up coming up? However, when we talk about Manny, all his personal stuff is left out of the convo? It's not fair to Floyd. If we gonna take skeletons out of his closet....it's only fair we do so to Manny as well.

Looking at this article and the way they paint Manny as such a humble, peaceful, loving family man in order to slight Floyd and all along Manny was basically living like a college student up until last year is crazy:dead:

Yes, Floyd be on some bullshyt with his excuses and the stupid internet memes if he has no intentions to fight Manny Pacquiao, but the media and people need to stop trying to compare and contrast them as if Floyd's just some savage, ignorant, foolish, buffoon and Manny is just an innocent, humble, peacemaker who fights for his country and just wants to help those in need:usure:

The only reason I'm bringing this up, is because the end of the article where the author is talking about in 50 years Manny will remembered as "...a humble warrior with an undefeatable spirit, as a humanitarian, a savior, a man for the people, and as a leader.":bryan:

That may be true in 50 years, but that's not true of Manny Pacquiao himself. Just like Floyd is a woman beater and cheater, Manny was an alcoholic, gambling obssessed, cheater as well. Both men have flaws and if you're gonna use ones flaws against themselves...it's only right to bring up the others flaws as well.


*End Rant*

I feel where you coming from, but you gotta remember that Manny doesn't really promote his own fukkery like that. Those in the know just know that it exists and keep it moving. Nobody is putting a gun to Floyd's head and saying, "Burn that 100 dollar bill in front of the club." "Make endless videos disrespecting a nikka that you won't fight for whatever reason, and etc..." Floyd promotes a lot of his own fukkery and negativity himself. Yeah he'll be on some positive shyt too, but then he'll end that positive streak by doing some stupid shyt that doesn't look good to the masses.

You can't do shyt that people dislike constantly on purpose in order to get a rise out of people to sell ppvs and then complain when that's all people will focus on. Floyd and some of this stans try to have it both ways. The article you posted was a bit much in the praise worthy department of Pacquiao, but to me it's always been clear that Floyd is jealous of Manny. His words and actions have shown that throughout the years. Why belittle your biggest rivals accomplishments if you really plan on fighting dude? All the PED accusations and disses just seem like dude couldn't stand the fact that Manny was getting just as much shine as he was getting. If he knows he's the better, more skilled, and richer fighter of the two, why always diss the nikka and bring him up. I'm not saying Manny don't talk shyt, but it's always an indifferent vibe he gives about it, whereas you hear Floyd and you know that nikka passionate as fukk with what he's saying like he's obsessed with dude.

Just my opinion on how I perceive shyt from an already tired and beaten down subject which I already know certain nikkas will disagree with.
 
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