yeah, but Maidana the puncher at WW, not AB...so AB had the most risk for coming in dry like that.
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yeah, but Maidana the puncher at WW, not AB...so AB had the most risk for coming in dry like that.
If Madonna was still woozy after inhaling smelling salts, you dont think he would've been even worse without taking it? Especially with how aggressive AB started off that 12th round, we will never know, but it's still something to think about.
Madonna was tired and woozy and AB was very aggressive. Without the smelling salts, anything could've happened.
fukk Alex Ariza
well, smelling salts is banned from corner use..and that footage proves that he used something of that effect, be it salts, ammonia, etc....
will there be a protest?
Amare's Right Hook
Southeast World Champion
It was mentos.
well, smelling salts is banned from corner use..and that footage proves that he used something of that effect, be it salts, ammonia, etc....
will there be a protest?
I would, but does smelling salts or whatever he used even show up in post fight drug tests?
He obviously told him to sniff something...what the fukk is he sniffing? You're not allowed to be sniffing anything
I wish I could go back and watch the fight. Matter of fact, I believe @SuikodenII posted the fight somewhere in here but it's long gone due to the posts made since then.
All I know is, if it was prior to the 12th round, it was blatant cheating and I would protest if I was AB.
Somebody named "yuppie" posted in "Why did smelling salts get banned from boxing" g on boxingscene.com a few months ago.....here's his post and if true, fukk Madonna, Robert Garcia, AND Alex Ariza because that shyt is ridiculous
http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=588536
I need an explanation from Ariza or Madonna or Garcia
I dont know about all of that but smelling salts are bad period in boxing because it basically wakes you up before you are ready to be woke up. your brain has many auto shutdown features...smelling salts shocks your brain and senses and makes it come out of its natural shutdown mode. if you cant wake a fighter up or get him alert by slapping him...he shouldnt be fighting.
Amare's Right Hook
Southeast World Champion
Your boy Madonna cheating breh?
Prescription mentos, dude has halitosis. It will come out in the report.
I would, but does smelling salts or whatever he used even show up in post fight drug tests?
He obviously told him to sniff something...what the fukk is he sniffing? You're not allowed to be sniffing anything
I wish I could go back and watch the fight. Matter of fact, I believe @SuikodenII posted the fight somewhere in here but it's long gone due to the posts made since then.
All I know is, if it was prior to the 12th round, it was blatant cheating and I would protest if I was AB.
fukk a test...we got video proof. this at least should be looked into. I am not a guy that says this guy is a cheat because he drank some gatorade or took some smelling salts. but rules are in place for a reason. dont make em if you aint gonna adhere.
charknicks
All Star
Great minds think alike, breh.
To me, once you become World Champ level, no more soft touches for you. No one is trying to pay good money (HBO, Showtime, PPV, ticket sales) to see you beat on a no-hoper. If you need some time off to heal, cool, but Broner better take this shyt seriously and come back strong.
he has to because what is the incentive for top guys like Swift to fight him now? he's damaged goods. he didnt lose a close decision, he got brakes beat off him. he needs to come back strong because now people really view him as a fraud and a bunch of lip.
GREENandYELLOW
2x...and defending
I'm just looking at Maidana's history and the fact the punch looked like it hurt Maidana, but he didn't appear in serious trouble. Maidana is a warrior and has always fought back when hurt. Broner may have ended up knocking Maidana down, I still would have been surprised, but I don't think Broner could've knocked Maidana out. A knockdown, but not knockout may have helped our perception of Broner in the fight, but not on the scorecards as he clearly was trailing by a lot in the fight.If Madonna was still woozy after inhaling smelling salts, you dont think he would've been even worse without taking it? Especially with how aggressive AB started off that 12th round, we will never know, but it's still something to think about.
Madonna was tired and woozy and AB was very aggressive. Without the smelling salts, anything could've happened.
fukk Alex Ariza
We also need to consider Maidana fans would have been pissed if Maidana lost because of a punch that was clearly after the bell.
Either way, the argument is moot for me. The fight was the correct result, late punch or smelling salts...it ended how it should have. But Ariza needs to go. This guy is bad for boxing. He may not be doing anything illegal, but the perception is that he is. That is a black eye the sport doesn't need.
Broner vs Madonna is on Showtime OnDemand already. I'm about to confirm whether it was in the corner prior to the 12th round or not.
Regardless, it was cheating but that was a crucial point in the fight for AB. The 12th round was the only round AB came out letting his hands go from the bell and landed some good shots early on a still dazed Madonna.
Regardless, it was cheating but that was a crucial point in the fight for AB. The 12th round was the only round AB came out letting his hands go from the bell and landed some good shots early on a still dazed Madonna.
I think its important that we realize now that....in boxing, its like the music industry. do you sign wit a major or go indy? at least boxers should try and control most of their business. when you put your career in the hands of promoters and networks...you basically have to go with the flow. if they say you are the next Mayweather, then thats what you are...whether you have Mayweather skills or not.
When's the last time Maidana was knocked down late in a fight though?
He was clearly winning this fight, but he was also clearly tired and also still dazed with smelling salts used on him. If smelling salts were used, we dont know HOW badly he was actually hurt and may have been open to anything.
I cant say for sure, but none else can say for sure either. There have been plenty of fights were people have been KOd in the 12th and final rounds
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