Anybody who is basically given a title and touted as a possible threat to someone like Floyd but then goes life and death with Ortiz and Guerrero is someone I would call overrated.
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So do you want to see Berto die in the ring, he couldnt even fight back coherently with one arm, enough was enough. Any a Berto apologist would say otherwise.
Shaky stoppages are Pacquaio Cotto, LM vs Ajose, Rios Alvarado, and such this was a prolonged noncompetitive one sided ass whipping
Berto was just as much a threat to Floyd as Canelo....I dont remember anyone picking him to beat Floyd though...thats different. Do you think Canelo is overrated? And some fools are picking him to win. Not saying he wont, he has a chance...but smart money is on Floyd because if Canelo was even money and he gets that work....that is what you call overrated. Just wait...in another couple of years after 3 or 4 losses...lets revisit this thread and see how many nikkas now is gonna be calling Canelo a bum then.
@patscorpio said no 8 count was needed for Cotto....you say the stoppage was shaky. see the difference in opinion? I dont care either way....my argument is to count.
ChocolateGiddyUp
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Canelos W over Trout is much better then ANYTHING Berto has ever done
Ginger is def a bigger threat then Berto ever was
Yeah I think Canelo is overrated. I think their are a few fighters other than Floyd who could beat him and I don't think he is worthy of the praise. But I do think he is a pretty good fighter though and better than Berto. If you are called the next great champion at any point and time and fail to reach those expectations that is what I call overrated.
Ok, this aint the barbershop..so when u spit it u gotta spit the whole shyt. Berto WAS next because the WW division was devoid of anything. Floyd had retired and relinquished the belt. Haymon and HBO had to have somebody to hype. There was no sense in matching him with another Haymon fighter in the Punisher...why do you think Paul never fought at WW again after that year? The WW division was run by TR. There was only Cotto, Marg, and Pac who had just came there to fight Oscar. The only guy that found a way in was Shane but even he was fighting Mayorga at 154 and had just lost to Cotto! There was no Bradley or no Marquez...but they are TR so that wouldnt matter anyway. Even the guys he lost to...Guerrero and Ortiz had not gotten to WW yet. He was overhyped and there was a very good business reason as to why. But check this out....Berto is soooooooo overhyped right? He is soooooooo overrated right? Yet he lost to 2 guys that Floyd got criticism for facing. Doesnt say much for Floyd. Like Marlo said on The Wire...you want it one way...but its the other way.
dont see how. cuz he beat Trout? INSIDE THE RING styles make fights not names. thats not to say Berto was fukkin with Floyd but the fact remains....Floyd aint fighting no fast fighters...only Zab. if there was ever hype, its Canelo. because he beat Trout in a fight Trout couldve won...and Trout beat a past prime Cotto is circumstantial and you can say anything in hindsight. Ginger is a bigger name and a bigger guy...thats it.
Once again...PW beating Winky and Sergio is MUCH better than anything Canelo has ever done. Yet nikkas was flip flopping from when he lost to Quintana til after, saying he was Floyd's biggest threat...then after the Lara fight yallz like....see, he was never a threat to Floyd.
and thats my point...very few are worthy of the praise heaped upon them. I am not going to say I didnt think Berto could or couldnt be great....I didnt know. What I am saying is.....I just dont hype guys too much until I see them do something. I never saw Berto do anything impressive as far as his wins so I had no reason to hype him. If others did, shame on them.
Then hop off his dikk he got his ass beat get over it.......
What is your agenda and what are you pursuing
SuikodenII
Where's Suikoden VI??????
good shyt...vanes better not fukk up his latest chance on HBO...HBO needs stars and he has an opportunity to capitalize
ChocolateGiddyUp
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Canelo beat the #2 guy in Trout an undefeated fighter errybody said he'd duck
Canelo is the top guy at 154
Has Berto ever accomplished those things?? At his weight??
Styles makes fights Berto has horrible reflexes N trex arms N suspect chin, gets hurt lays on the ropes N gets pummelled some more
Canelo has better power, better defense, throws combos, has a better chin, fights smarter, is bigger N stronger
How tf is/was Berto ever the same threat as Canelo
N i have no clue why tf you brought up Pwill stay on topic breh
ChocolateGiddyUp
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No fukking body fought Pwill cuz he wasn't a draw, bounced from weight class to weight class N after his best win follows it up with a L to quintana
...nikkas need to jus let it go already
As far as Floyd wont fight anybody fast...when proposed fights wit Khan or Devon are talked about errybody bytches N complains
...nikkas need to jus let it go alreadyAs far as Floyd wont fight anybody fast...when proposed fights wit Khan or Devon are talked about errybody bytches N complains
tbh i thought trout won that fight 
canelo was fighting in spurts too much
canelo was fighting in spurts too much