Essential The Official Boxing Random Thoughts Thread...All boxing heads ENTER.

[Newzz]

Ok, this aint the barbershop..so when u spit it u gotta spit the whole shyt. Berto WAS next because the WW division was devoid of anything. Floyd had retired and relinquished the belt. Haymon and HBO had to have somebody to hype. There was no sense in matching him with another Haymon fighter in the Punisher...why do you think Paul never fought at WW again after that year? The WW division was run by TR. There was only Cotto, Marg, and Pac who had just came there to fight Oscar. The only guy that found a way in was Shane but even he was fighting Mayorga at 154 and had just lost to Cotto! There was no Bradley or no Marquez...but they are TR so that wouldnt matter anyway. Even the guys he lost to...Guerrero and Ortiz had not gotten to WW yet. He was overhyped and there was a very good business reason as to why. But check this out....Berto is soooooooo overhyped right? He is soooooooo overrated right? Yet he lost to 2 guys that Floyd got criticism for facing. Doesnt say much for Floyd. Like Marlo said on The Wire...you want it one way...but its the other way.

Berto aint never beat a fighter the caliber of Austin Trout....he is not fukking with Canelo Alvarez. AT ALL.. What you talking about breh? There's no way in the world that ANYONE would pick Berto to beat Canelo Alvarez in a boxing match

"But check this out....Berto is soooooooo overhyped right? He is soooooooo overrated right? Yet he lost to 2 guys that Floyd got criticism for facing. Doesnt say much for Floyd"



It says alot about Floyd and even MORE about Berto. Floyd easily dispatched of those 2 fighters that true boxing heads know shouldnt have even been in the ring with him. That's what he was supposed to do and he did it.....made it look mad easy too.

BERTO, however, lost both of the fights even though he was the favorite in them.....and then both fighters went ahead and got destroyed in their very next fights

That shows that Berto was overhyped. He was nothing but a B Class fighter at the end of the day

 

[ChocolateGiddyUp]

tbh i thought trout won that fight

canelo was fighting in spurts too much

It was close but the kd N Canelos power was the difference

Trout was throwing weak ass pitty pat bullshyt not to mention making Canelo look like mexican sweet pea missing 5,6 punches in a row

 

[ChocolateGiddyUp]

Berto aint never beat a fighter the caliber of Austin Trout....he is not fukking with Canelo Alvarez. AT ALL.. What you talking about breh? There's no way in the world that ANYONE would pick Berto to beat Canelo Alvarez in a boxing match

"But check this out....Berto is soooooooo overhyped right? He is soooooooo overrated right? Yet he lost to 2 guys that Floyd got criticism for facing. Doesnt say much for Floyd"



It says alot about Floyd and even MORE about Berto. Floyd easily dispatched of those 2 fighters that true boxing heads know shouldnt have even been in the ring with him. That's what he was supposed to do and he did it.....made it look mad easy too.

BERTO, however, lost both of the fights even though he was the favorite in them.....and then both fighters went ahead and got destroyed in their very next fights

That shows that Berto was overhyped. He was nothing but a B Class fighter at the end of the day

B class fighters dont get kod by Jesus Soto Karass

 

[surv2syn]

Then hop off his dikk he got his ass beat get over it.......



What is your agenda and what are you pursuing

to stop u from being such a goddamn hater...thats all. if its a fighter you dont like....u bash em with no shame...if its one u like u suck the skin off his dikk. I aint even talkin bout Berto stoppage...you are! I just used the nikka as the latest example of ref's not administering count. my agenda is for more objectivity and less subjectivity in the sport.

 

[Skip b]

It was close but the kd N Canelos power was the difference

Trout was throwing weak ass pitty pat bullshyt not to mention making Canelo look like mexican sweet pea missing 5,6 punches in a row

Canelo aint shyt and Trout aint shyt ugliest fight I seen with division number 1 squaring off vs the number 2

Trout boxed his head off, off 4 when the cards became known to team Canelo his bytch ass decided to run and get on his bicycle after he knew he would be awarded anything, Trout then had to come forward weary of Canelo's power throwing half assed punches vs a completely gassed fighter, then Canelo lands a counter and drops him the proceeds to run and get slapped to death. Horrible fukking match, truthfully Canelo stock went down after that victory, the main reason the Floyd fight has zero heat as much as Canelo deserve props for beating Trout he truly aint do shyt

 

[surv2syn]

Canelo beat the #2 guy in Trout an undefeated fighter errybody said he'd duck

Canelo is the top guy at 154

Has Berto ever accomplished those things?? At his weight??

Styles makes fights Berto has horrible reflexes N trex arms N suspect chin, gets hurt lays on the ropes N gets pummelled some more

Canelo has better power, better defense, throws combos, has a better chin, fights smarter, is bigger N stronger

How tf is/was Berto ever the same threat as Canelo

N i have no clue why tf you brought up Pwill stay on topic breh

Pwill cuz yall nikkas got selective memory...thats why. like u dont remember that shyt. so then you try and dismiss it. its all on topic. FOH. nikkas live off hindsight and revisionists history...it will happen with Canelo. I could give a fukk about him beating Trout. he beats one decent guy then he top 10 p4p. u nikkas kill me. a fighter winning two fights or losing two fights can be the difference in if you on his dikk or not. just be consistent.

 

[surv2syn]

Canelo aint shyt and Trout aint shyt ugliest fight I seen with division number 1 squaring off vs the number 2

Trout boxed his head off, off 4 when the cards became known to team Canelo his bytch ass decided to run and get on his bicycle after he knew he would be awarded anything, Trout then had to come forward weary of Canelo's power throwing half assed punches vs a completely gassed fighter, then Canelo lands a counter and drops him the proceeds to run and get slapped to death. Horrible fukking match, truthfully Canelo stock went down after that victory, the main reason the Floyd fight has zero heat as much as Canelo deserve props for beating Trout he truly aint do shyt

and thats my point...154 really aint shyt and Canelo is manufactured like a mf. what makes it even worse is....the contenders are guys like Lara and he will give Canelo some trouble. man...these are all mediocre fighters. like beating Trout make u some kinda god or sumthin.

 

[surv2syn]

Berto aint never beat a fighter the caliber of Austin Trout....he is not fukking with Canelo Alvarez. AT ALL.. What you talking about breh? There's no way in the world that ANYONE would pick Berto to beat Canelo Alvarez in a boxing match

is that the undefeated Berto against a green Canelo or the WW version? no...of course you dont mean that...u mean the Berto that just got KOed by Soto-Karass against the Canelo going up against Floyd. Who would pick that? Come on....cheap comments breh. I implore yall nikkas to challenge yourselves a lil harder. I never said Berto could beat Canelo...but since u brought it up...the fact is you dont know what one fighter can do against another at any given weight. Obviously Berto aint a JMW. also...u nikkas talk a lot after the results of these matches stating the obvious..and sometimes fukkin that up. you only talkin that shyt cuz Canelo aint been beat yet....once he is...two and three times over....he will be yesterday's trash. we will see how many of yall will ride for him then.

Canelo is an average fighter with superstar hype.

 

[ChocolateGiddyUp]

We was talking bout Berto vs Canelo N you bring up Pwill


Was Pwill a draw like Canelo?? Did Canelo lose to C class Quintana?? Is Canelo bouncing around from weight to weight like Pwill?? Was Pwill undefeated? Was there a demand for Pwill Vs Floyd like there is for Ginger vs Floyd??

Thats why Canelo is getting his Payday N Pwill didnt its pretty simple

 

[Skip b]

B class fighters dont get kod by Jesus Soto Karass

Getting your ass beat then shaking your head, screaming uhh uhh with the da hell face

 

[surv2syn]

No fukking body fought Pwill cuz he wasn't a draw, bounced from weight class to weight class N after his best win follows it up with a L to quintana...nikkas need to jus let it go already

As far as Floyd wont fight anybody fast...when proposed fights wit Khan or Devon are talked about errybody bytches N complains

so because he wasnt a draw then that means he wasnt a threat? and because Canelo is a draw he is a threat? yeah, I see your logic. well, I thought Pwill was a threat to Floyd...but I didnt change my stance after he got worked over by Lara. 154 in 2011 or so aint got shyt to do with 147 in 2009. the fight never happened so we will never know...but just because PWill fizzled out dont mean he wasnt a serious threat. nikkas wait for outcomes then say I told u so then start backtrackin when you call em on some shyt they put out over the wire prior to that.

 

[surv2syn]

We was talking bout Berto vs Canelo N you bring up Pwill


Was Pwill a draw like Canelo?? Did Canelo lose to C class Quintana?? Is Canelo bouncing around from weight to weight like Pwill?? Was Pwill undefeated? Was there a demand for Pwill Vs Floyd like there is for Ginger vs Floyd??

Thats why Canelo is getting his Payday N Pwill didnt its pretty simple

not talking about payday...never mentioned purse...only threats. first Pwill was a threat then he wasnt fit to be in the ring with Mayweather. Canelo has not proven to be a better fighter than PWill yet. say what you will.

 

[Skip b]

so because he wasnt a draw then that means he wasnt a threat? and because Canelo is a draw he is a threat? yeah, I see your logic. well, I thought Pwill was a threat to Floyd...but I didnt change my stance after he got worked over by Lara. 154 in 2011 or so aint got shyt to do with 147 in 2009. the fight never happened so we will never know...but just because PWill fizzled out dont mean he wasnt a serious threat. nikkas wait for outcomes then say I told u so then start backtrackin when you call em on some shyt they put out over the wire prior to that.

Only Floyd haters would see Williams as a legitmate threat to Mayweather, he lost to C class Quitana, nothing else needs to be said, throw wild pitty pat punches vs Mayweather and see what happens..............................

 

[Mr. Leonidas]

Only Floyd haters would see Williams as a legitmate threat to Mayweather, he lost to C class Quitana, nothing else needs to be said, throw wild pitty pat punches vs Mayweather and see what happens..............................

And only a FLoyd lover would NOT see Williams as a legitimate threat. This is called a circular argument.

 

[Newzz]

is that the undefeated Berto against a green Canelo or the WW version? no...of course you dont mean that...u mean the Berto that just got KOed by Soto-Karass against the Canelo going up against Floyd. Who would pick that? Come on....cheap comments breh. I implore yall nikkas to challenge yourselves a lil harder. I never said Berto could beat Canelo...but since u brought it up...the fact is you dont know what one fighter can do against another at any given weight. Obviously Berto aint a JMW. also...u nikkas talk a lot after the results of these matches stating the obvious..and sometimes fukkin that up. you only talkin that shyt cuz Canelo aint been beat yet....once he is...two and three times over....he will be yesterday's trash. we will see how many of yall will ride for him then.

Canelo is an average fighter with superstar hype.

Breh, Canelo before OR AFTER the fight with Floyd Mayweather would still be the favorite against a fukking Andre Berto. You serious b?

Floyd is the best fighter in the world, him beating Alvarez doesnt mean anything as to "exposing" Alvarez


Berto been overrated since Luis Collazo was putting the beats on him. Alvarez is a more talented fighter....you know that breh.


Stop this riding for Berto. He has no defense, has short arms, an average chin, footwork is suspect. All he has is hand speed and some pop to his punches. Thats it.