reservoirdogs
Superstar
Don’t think he needs Haymon or anyone else for the matter, he can stand on his own leg and make deals on a fight-by-fight basis with whoever. Can’t really see Canelo joining to the PBC or Top Rank stable like that.
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reservoirdogs
Superstar
c’mon breh read the context. He fough Jacobs and Kovalev, neither of them were approved as “premier opponents”, BJS and Smith wouldn’t be either. That leaves us with GGG who was hellbent on fighting Szeremeta instead and they threw in 2 MMA fighters plus DLH who is fukking 47. Some clowns sitting in their board who seem to know fukk all about boxing.
they expected Canelo to do these huge numbers for them but forgot to look around in the scene basically only banking on showing Canelo vs Golovkin 3. They haven’t realised that there are not so many “premium names” in boxing and now they come with this tomfoolery to propose Canelo circus fights with MMA fighters and his soon to be 50 promoter instead of demanding the best fights that are out there (BJS, Smith, Andrade, Charlo, Benavidez, Plant). It’s ridiculous how bad they misjudged the situation.
I’m not one of these Haymon dikkriders who were rooting for this to fail from the get go, I was rooting for them to be successful as I’m rooting to any new project in boxing but it seems more and more like they just fukked up.
Bigblackted4
Superstar
I agree for now but in the long term the less networks the better.
reservoirdogs
Superstar
Not necessarily cause I think that’s only true if one entity controlls the sport but both Haymon, TR and DAZN are very far from that. If the question is bipolar vs multipolar I vote for multipolar any time, there’s seem to be an agreement that in multipolar systems alliances between parties are more likely than in case of bipolar systems with only 2 actors.
in boxing too, when it was bipolar (HBO vs Showtime cold war) it was very rare that promotional entities worked together, while it wasn’t that common in recent years either it still became more common than during the cold war, I think at least partially because there were more actors not just two of them against each other.
Bigblackted4
Superstar
Same hell I had it up until May from the inception. They had a bad business model and would have been better off hiring Lou Dibella with a smaller stable putting on fights weekly and then buy big fights so that limits your money out.
c’mon breh read the context. He fough Jacobs and Kovalev, neither of them were approved as “premier opponents”, BJS and Smith wouldn’t be either. That leaves us with GGG who was hellbent on fighting Szeremeta instead and they threw in 2 MMA fighters plus DLH who is fukking 47. Some clowns sitting in their board who seem to know fukk all about boxing.
they expected Canelo to do these huge numbers for them but forgot to look around in the scene basically only banking on showing Canelo vs Golovkin 3. They haven’t realised that there are not so many “premium names” in boxing and now they come with this tomfoolery to propose Canelo circus fights with MMA fighters and his soon to be 50 promoter instead of demanding the best fights that are out there (BJS, Smith, Andrade, Charlo, Benavidez, Plant). It’s ridiculous how bad they misjudged the situation.
I’m not one of these Haymon dikkriders who were rooting for this to fail from the get go, I was rooting for them to be successful as I’m rooting to any new project in boxing but it seems more and more like they just fukked up.
Bigblackted4
Superstar
Make sense but I think if Matchroom USA went to showtime or ESPN more fights would get made because of network pressure. Problem is budgets might not permit it.
reservoirdogs
Superstar
They wanted to break the bank and start a quick expansion but I don’t think they found the right men to do boxing business and I’m not sure anymore how enthusiastic is their owner about this whole thing. That guy is one of the richest man on this Earth but they gonna tell me he can’t pay up for Canelo Vs Smith/BJS? Or perhaps he can be de doesn’t want to
The axe murderer
For I am death and I ride on a pale horse
desjardins
Veteran
Will be interesting to see this play out. I remember there were rumors Showtime was getting irked with some of Mayweather opponents after Canelo and before Manny. Gotta be hard to profit off these long term mega deals if the fighter has complete latitude to cherry pick who he wants to fight. Ppl acting like DAZN is crazy for demanding GGG again when they paying $350 mil on the obvious hopes of that trilogy 
. It is what it is. DAZN should just offer a settlement and cut their losses and Canelo should leverage this lawsuit to bounce from GBP and do his own thing and likely end up banking the same $35+ mil fighting who ever he wants
. It is what it is. DAZN should just offer a settlement and cut their losses and Canelo should leverage this lawsuit to bounce from GBP and do his own thing and likely end up banking the same $35+ mil fighting who ever he wants
Teixeira Still Obligated To Next Defend Title Versus Castano, Per WBO
By Jake Donovan
Published On Wed Sep 9, 2020, 11:44 AM EST
For months, Brian Castano and his team have awaited an update on his mandatory title shot.
That moment finally arrived, receiving the news they have expected only after having to read news of alternate plans not including their involvement.
The unbeaten former secondary junior middleweight titlist is still due a shot at reigning World Boxing Organization (WBO) 154-pound title claimant Patrick Teixeira, the Puerto-based sanctioning body ruled on Wednesday. The two were scheduled for an April 25 showdown at Fantasy Springs Resort Casino in Indio, California, only for the event to be shut down to the ongoing coronavirus pandemic.
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Boxing has since resumed and at that very venue, although no such plans have come in the way of this bout making its way to the schedule. Instead came the recent news of Teixeira’s team reportedly exploring the possibility of a voluntary title defense with Australia’s Tim Tszyu, who is fresh off of a high-profile stoppage win over countryman and former welterweight champion Jeff Horn and is eager to enter the title mix.
“We were very surprised to learn through BoxingScene that Tim Tszyu’s promoter was trying to arrange a fight between Tszyu and Texeira by requesting it to the WBO,” Sebastian Contursi, Castaño’s longtime manager informed BoxingScene.com. “Last December, the WBO appointed Castano as the mandatory challenger and he still is. In fact, contracts have been signed for Castaño to face Texeira last April 25 in Indio, California, a fight that was officially announced by Golden Boy and then postponed because of the pandemic.
“Castaño has been and still is waiting for confirmation for a new date to reschedule the fight against Texeira. Therefore, there are absolutely no grounds for such a request from Tszyu’s team, or for that matter from anyone, to try to sidestep Castaño. I don’t know where that comes from. It’s ridiculous.”
The stance is one that is shared by the one party with final say in the matter.
“Be advised an agreement is set for #WBO Jr. Middleweight Teixeira/Castaño as mandated by Championship Committee,” Francisco ‘Paco’ Valcarcel, longtime president of the WBO confirmed on Wednesday. “The bout was set for April 25, but due to COVID-19, it was postponed.
“We’ve been informed it will be held November 2020. We stand [by the] committee’s ruling.”
Castaño (16-0-1, 12KOs) was named mandatory challenger at the WBO Convention last December in Tokyo. The ruling came shortly after his 5th round stoppage of Wale Omotoso last November in Oxon Hill, Maryland. The 30-year old Buenos Aires native served as a secondary WBA titleholder prior to that point, but vacated his belt after refusal to enter a rematch with Michel Soro without assurance of his guaranteed purse being placed in a confirmed escrow account. Castaño and Contursi had to sue in order to get paid following their first fight in July 2017, which Casataño won by 12-round decision.
Teixeira (31-1, 22KOs) will attempt the first defense of the title he claimed in a 12-round win over unbeaten Carlos Adames last November in Las Vegas. The 29-year old from Sao Paulo, Brazil has won five straight since a 2nd round knockout loss to Curtis Stevens in May 2016.
Despite the prior ruling for a mandatory title defense, Teixeira’s name has been linked to several high-profile bouts. Long before Tszyu entered the equation, there were rumors of Teixeira facing unbeaten three-division titlist Terence Crawford (36-0, 27KOs) though such talks never advanced beyond random gossip.
Given the WBO’s firm stance on the subject, the onus is now on Golden Boy Promotions—Teixeira’s promoter—to secure a venue and platform to stage the fight. The two sides reached a date for the previously scheduled April 25 date, avoiding a purse bid in the process.
Should a default occur, Castaño’s team can petition to the WBO to re-order negotiations with the threat of a purse bid hearing looming overhead.
The axe murderer
For I am death and I ride on a pale horse
As long as he isnt KO’d/TKO it is what it isLoma a lil different though. He'll taunt you and box literally circles around you and make you quit. Teofimo cannot have the same night Nicholas Walters did.
