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[SuikodenII]

Question for the boxing heads here: From what I understand, Austin Trout did better against Miguel Cotto than Floyd Mayweather did, but how much would that matter in a match up against Canelo? How similar are Trout and Mayweather in their styles and athleticism, and how would that (in your opinion) pan out for a guy like Canelo?

He didn't, he simply did better than most were expecting and pulled off an upset

Trout fights nothing like Mayweather, Trout likes to jab on the outside and move, not a heavy puncher at all, just outbox you from the outside with a constant flickering jab. He's defense conscious, but his technique is nothing like Mayweather's. He's also a southpaw. The Cotto fight was the most exciting version of Trout I've ever seen, most of Trout's bouts are boring due to the fact he doesn't sit on his punches much, but Cotto was there to be hit, often.

 

[HARLEM AL]

Question for the boxing heads here: From what I understand, Austin Trout did better against Miguel Cotto than Floyd Mayweather did, but how much would that matter in a match up against Canelo? How similar are Trout and Mayweather in their styles and athleticism, and how would that (in your opinion) pan out for a guy like Canelo?

2 totally different styles. 1(trout) is a Southpaw who uses his jab very well but doesnt throw it with conviction. More of a get the fukk off of me jab. The other which is floyd is a Counter puncher that can mix it up on the inside.

Couple things Canelo want be able to do with floyd...

Not take rounds off(canelo never fights the whole round)
He gasses easily
his foot work isnt good(although better still not good)
His doent have a solid jab
He will make mistakes(And when he makes them floyd will make him pay)
He will try to box with floyd(which would be a dumb idea)
He is to patient(if he waits floyd will be banking those rounds in with the more Cleaner punches)

and last but not least he wont have those bullshyt ass judges to give him rounds because he is canelo.

 

[HARLEM AL]

Marquez: Trout Win Does Not Make Canelo an Elite Boxer - Boxing News


I'm with Marquez, wins over Molina/Smith winner and Lara/Angulo winner and Cotto will force a Martinez/Mayweather's hand..........not just a close win over Trout, though he did prove he's a legit 154 fighter not just picking on 147lb boxers anymore

somebody with common sense..

 

[LauderdaleBoss]

I don't know how a nikka can claim they a real boxing fan if they don't want to see a mega fight between Canelo and Floyd. That's the biggest and easiest fight to make in boxing. shyt will do around 2 mill ppv sells. You already know the undercard is going to be stacked as well.

I'm more hyped for that potential fight then the turd joust Floyd's going to have with the Ghost.

 

[HARLEM AL]

I don't know how a nikka can claim they a real boxing fan if they don't want to see a mega fight between Canelo and Floyd. That's the biggest and easiest fight to make in boxing. shyt will do around 2 mill ppv sells. You already know the undercard is going to be stacked as well.

I'm more hyped for that potential fight then the turd joust Floyd's going to have with the Ghost.

We know its a big fight. We all want to see it(shyt if it happens sept. it woukld be better for floyd seeing that I see the kid isnt ready) But it isnt a legacy fight.

 

[SuikodenII]

I don't know how a nikka can claim they a real boxing fan if they don't want to see a mega fight between Canelo and Floyd. That's the biggest and easiest fight to make in boxing. shyt will do around 2 mill ppv sells. You already know the undercard is going to be stacked as well.

I'm more hyped for that potential fight then the turd joust Floyd's going to have with the Ghost.

We do want to see it......just be patient, B. Canelo hasn't even headlined a big PPV yet, give it some time to marinate. Floyd beats him now it won't mean anything. Hell, there's no guarantee Trout wouldn't win a rematch, that fight was close.

Canelo can take on Cotto, Angulo/Lara winner and Molina/Smith winner, Trout II

Mayweather can take on Pac-Man, 140lb tourny winner, Alexander, Khan

^^Just a general lay-out, don't get all bytchy peeps

If you want a MEGA FIGHT, then you gotta build up interest, don't let the SanAntonio crowd fool you, a lot of people still don't know who Canelo is. Let it muuurrrrinate

 

[patscorpio]

Question for the boxing heads here: From what I understand, Austin Trout did better against Miguel Cotto than Floyd Mayweather did, but how much would that matter in a match up against Canelo? How similar are Trout and Mayweather in their styles and athleticism, and how would that (in your opinion) pan out for a guy like Canelo?

they're not really similar stylewise..trout is a slick southpaw; floyd is a counterpuncher...athleticism is also a little difficult to compare because trout is in his physical prime now while floyd is starting to come out of his..trout did 2 things in the fight with canelo that cost him the fight...he didn't commit hard enough on his punches for effective scoring and he didn't stay with a body attack that worked for him early..had he did that it would have been very close

now floyd's philly shell could cause canelo problems as well as the fact floyd is capable of fighting 12 hard rounds without breathing too hard..something that is canelo big flaw..the only thing that would be a question mark is fight night weight...canelo is a light heavy when he rehydrates while floyd is barely a natural JMW...floyd would be outweighed by almost 20 lbs..it would be alot of to deal with esp from a younger figter..i don't think floyd has the type of power to discourage canelo from eventually closing in though he can make him pay..we'll prolly have to wait until the guerrero fight to see if his legs, which were a big part of his defense, are truly going

 

[LauderdaleBoss]

We know its a big fight. We all want to see it(shyt if it happens sept. it woukld be better for floyd seeing that I see the kid isnt ready) But it isnt a legacy fight.

Maybe, but how many realistic fights out there are there for Floyd that are legacy fights.

Alexander, Danny Garcia, Guerrero, and Khan aren't legacy fights. Marquez got dominated already and I'm pretty sure Floyd ain't moving up to 160 to fight Sergio and if the Pac fight hasn't been made yet it probably never will.

Look's like Canelo will have to do.. unless ya'll can name another realistic legacy fight that can be made.

 

[LauderdaleBoss]

We do want to see it......just be patient, B. Canelo hasn't even headlined a big PPV yet, give it some time to marinate. Floyd beats him now it won't mean anything. Hell, there's no guarantee Trout wouldn't win a rematch, that fight was close.

Canelo can take on Cotto, Angulo/Lara winner and Molina/Smith winner, Trout II

Mayweather can take on Pac-Man, 140lb tourny winner, Alexander, Khan

^^Just a general lay-out, don't get all bytchy peeps

If you want a MEGA FIGHT, then you gotta build up interest, don't let the SanAntonio crowd fool you, a lot of people still don't know who Canelo is. Let it muuurrrrinate

I understand where you coming from but.....

I'm tired of all that waiting shyt breh..Boxers especially the major draws barely fight twice a year as it is..and Floyd is getting older just like I'm getting older. I don't wanna be waiting another 18 months of Floyd fighting no hopers from 140 or Canelo fighting fringe guys at 154 before I see this fight. Both guys can lose before then or get some nasty cut from a clash of heads and prolong shyt some more. I'm not with taking all those chances.

 

[The Fukin Prophecy]

nikka you said he didnt fight pacq so he should fight canelo. nikka just fought a fukking jmw instead of his usual jw and ww.

Floyd has to fight him based on what?

No nikka this is what I said...

Floyd can't avoid Canelo and yes he does need him, not for the money but for his legacy...The Pac fight never happening was a huge blackeye for both of their careers and the sport...After that debacle, failing to now secure the second biggest prize fight that can be made would all but solidify his legacy as a ducker and an opportunist in the court of public oppinion...

This does not in anyway shape or form imply Canelo replaces Pac...All it implies is Floyds legacy will take another blow if he ducks the kid...

This isn't rocket science bruh...It's a legacy fight because it impacts his fukking legacy... @ you struggling to grasp that...

 

[SuikodenII]

I understand where you coming from but.....

I'm tired of all that waiting shyt breh..Boxers especially the major draws barely fight twice a year as it is..and Floyd is getting older just like I'm getting older. I don't wanna be waiting another 18 months of Floyd fighting no hopers from 140 or Canelo fighting fringe guys at 154 before I see this fight. Both guys can lose before then or get some nasty cut from a clash of heads and prolong shyt some more. I'm not with taking all those chances.

Great things comes to those who wait........either wait for a REAL Mega Fight 5 course PPV


or heat up some left over fast food from last night


Cause as of right NOW, from 154-140, there's still nobody who has a chance at beating a healthy Mayweather. But if you give Canelo some time to grow and mature as a fighter.........a lot of potential there..........but we'll have to see how he handles other actual top 154lb fighters. One close win solidifies him as a legit 154 champion, not a legit threat to the throne

 

[Flight]

I was in San Antonio for the fight. Canelo's boxing skills in person were straight status.

 

[surv2syn]

Marquez: Trout Win Does Not Make Canelo an Elite Boxer - Boxing News


I'm with Marquez, wins over Molina/Smith winner and Lara/Angulo winner and Cotto will force a Martinez/Mayweather's hand..........not just a close win over Trout, though he did prove he's a legit 154 fighter not just picking on 147lb boxers anymore

I wish I could give you double dap for this. This is all I have been trying to say for the past day. Plain and simple. Now these clowns saying JMM bitter because Canelo getting hype. Maybe, but does he have a right to be if he is? Marquez took a hard road up and I am sure he gets a lil irked by people hailing this guy as the next big thing when he aint done chit! Marquez was twice the fighter Canelo was when he fought a close fight with Norwood...who at that time was a better fighter than Trout is today. He was a good fighter his whole career but didnt really get his opportunity until years after fighters like MAB and Morales had made millions and became living legends...yet, he actually was a peer of theirs. In fact JMM older than MAB or Morales!!!

ANYONE saying Canelo is elite because he beat Trout :udontknow:

 

[Skip b]

You're out your fukking mind. Cotto barley won 3 rounds. Stop it Skip

So you gonna act like Cotto wasnt making Trout look foolish in the middle rounds


Yall could hype this bullshyt victory all yall want, the boxing world knows



Canelo decisions Trout in robbery of the century in Texas



This win will hinder Canelo, he would've been better off losing with the damn near unanimous hate

 

[HARLEM AL]

Maybe, but how many realistic fights out there are there for Floyd that are legacy fights.

Alexander, Danny Garcia, Guerrero, and Khan aren't legacy fights. Marquez got dominated already and I'm pretty sure Floyd ain't moving up to 160 to fight Sergio and if the Pac fight hasn't been made yet it probably never will.

Look's like Canelo will have to do.. unless ya'll can name another realistic legacy fight that can be made.

None really.