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[surv2syn]

No it wasn't...

Rigo's work was clean and effective, Trouts wasn't...

You can't win with a weak ass jab and flurries that catch nothing...Trout was scared to let his hands go and follow through with his punches...He landed nothing significant which rendered his work insignificant...Rigo on the other hand did not fight like that, his straight left was rocking Donaire and all his punches had life to them...His work was clean and effective hence the outcome...

The right man won both those fights...

Rigo stopped Donaire from throwing. Thats what made these two fights totally different.

I dont see really anything Canelo did to take Trout out of his game plan. Trout couldve done some things better but he basically fought his fight and the better man won.

 

[Black_Jesus]

Floyd is ducking MWs now?
So anybody at any weight can just say his name and he is automatically ducking them?

He didn't want no parts of Sergio... yes Sergio is MW. No shyt, but when Sergio agrees to drop to 154 then yes its a duck....

 

[Skip b]

Not even close Stop it

Rigo was throwing 875567 pitty pat punches or hard ass counters??

Trout had Canelo terrified to throw punches like Donaire was??

Trout was ducking N weaving slipping punches like rigo?? shyt that was the ginger doin that

Trout had Canelo wit his glove glued to his eye scared for his life??

nikkas from before the fight started was crying it was goin be a robbery....it was a close fight N Trout should fought like he did in the 6th the whole match he would won

Knowing he was losing threw him off his game, noticed how he got sloppy and stop popping the jab, which set up everything for Trout, fight was a disgrace majority of the press felt Canelo lost

 

[surv2syn]

Floyd can't avoid Canelo and yes he does need him, not for the money but for his legacy...The Pac fight never happening was a huge blackeye for both of their careers and the sport...After that debacle, failing to now secure the second biggest prize fight that can be made would all but solidify his legacy as a ducker and an opportunist in the court of public oppinion...

I am a big fan of dude but there is zero excuse for not fighting Canelo...Floyd's had multiple fights at 154 and even held a strap...If his age is a problem then he shouldn't have signed that showtime contract...Either take on a challenge or retire...

Floyd needs Canelo for his legacy

So Canelo does more for Floyd's legacy than say Martinez...should he come down. Or Bradley at WW. Floyd is 36. Any legacy building is pretty much done...but for the sake of argument...why is Canelo most qualified?

There arent any great fighters out here honestly. I just dont see how Canelo is viewed as a legacy builder when he just got on the scene.

I guess in 88 SRL shouldve been fighting Virgil Hill and Michael Nunn (both who were much more accomplished at that time than Canelo) being that he held belts at 168 and 175. SRL was a JMW at his highest weight, just because he won titles higher doesnt make him something else. Those fights are for money and marketability. If Floyd was committed to JMW then he would vacate WW and never come back. He is a WW who takes an occasional fight at JMW.

Funny, I didnt hear all these cries for Manny to clean out 154 after he beat Margarito.

 

[Black_Jesus]

and Canelo has NEVER impressed me.

He impressed me... Trout is no walk in the park that was a definitely a solid win... In the fight he showed that he has pretty good defense/head movement and packs a super solid punch he just needs to polish that shyt and get his conditioning and stamina on point and dude will be straight. ..

The beauty of him being only 22 is that he has more than enough time to work on his flaws and keep improving

 

[Skip b]

He impressed me... Trout is no walk in the park that was a definitely a solid win... In the fight he showed that he has pretty good defense/head movement and packs a super solid punch he just needs to polish that shyt and get his conditioning and stamina on point and dude will be straight. ..

The beauty of him being only 22 is that he has more than enough time to work on his flaws and keep improving

Trout never was shyt I was against this fight from the start cuz he beat a shot pillow fisted Cotto who fought dumb who was able to buzz trout when he landed and win 5 rounds, Trout is a level below the Lara's of the world, so all in all meaningless victory.Tout is a pillow fisted JMW with horrible punching technique, Saturday he fought someone 170's pounds his own weight

 

[surv2syn]

He impressed me... Trout is no walk in the park that was a definitely a solid win... In the fight he showed that he has pretty good defense/head movement and packs a super solid punch he just needs to polish that shyt and get his conditioning and stamina on point and dude will be straight. ..

The beauty of him being only 22 is that he has more than enough time to work on his flaws and keep improving

like Victor Ortiz?

I heard this same shyt before. It was a solid win but why make it more than that? Stop believing all this HBO bullshyt hype. They did the same thing with Jermain Taylor, but he actually did face a couple of HOFers who were still close to their prime. Mosley dont count because he hasnt won a fight in ages.

The Hype Machine has to exist in all sports, thats how they keep interest generated for the general public. When I come into a boxing forum I expect to see a lil more objectivity from so-called real boxing fans who should be able to see through all this. There is a need for a fighter to be hyped every year to keep money going. It is what it is. I just thought some of yall nikkas would know Fool's Gold when you see it.

 

[patscorpio]

He impressed me... Trout is no walk in the park that was a definitely a solid win... In the fight he showed that he has pretty good defense/head movement and packs a super solid punch he just needs to polish that shyt and get his conditioning and stamina on point and dude will be straight. ..

The beauty of him being only 22 is that he has more than enough time to work on his flaws and keep improving

but he's 22 with 43 professional fights..he's a veteran...a young veteran..the window for him to improve his flaws is not a big one as he's upping his competition

 

[surv2syn]

to me, Canelo, Trout, Lara, etc...all these guys are on the same level. some have belts, some dont. some have more hype, some less. Canelo is not head and shoulders above everyone else at 154 because he beat Trout. Hell, Lara got robbed against PW. Timing plays a huge part but some fighters are hyped from day one, others arent. Canelo is hyped because of his large Mexican fan base.

I dont think some of you know just how much of a market there is for a halfway decent Mexican fighter. Netflix Mexico has all of JMM major fights streaming. They dont even have boxing on Netflix USA. It is for that reason and not any other that FMJ will eventually face him.

 

[surv2syn]

I got a question for yall...if Canelo's people believe he is so good and he is not simply trying to cash out...why did he have a rematch clause and Trout didnt?

Spoiler

 

[Black_Jesus]

Trout never was shyt I was against this fight from the start cuz he beat a shot pillow fisted Cotto who fought dumb who was able to buzz trout when he landed and win 5 rounds, Trout is a level below the Lara's of the world, so all in all meaningless victory.Tout is a pillow fisted JMW with horrible punching technique, Saturday he fought someone 170's pounds his own weight

So basically you're saying that you cant give a boxer props unless they completely dominate their opponent flawlessley ... if they cant do that then they aint shyt and/or, the victory is meaningless....

This is your logic??

 

[L68]

so im expecting garcias dad to give me some laughs this week...did they have a preview show for this fight..atleast a half hour special or some shyt

 

[Black_Jesus]

but he's 22 with 43 professional fights..he's a veteran...a young veteran..the window for him to improve his flaws is not a big one as he's upping his competition

:idk:

As he ups his competition he will improve... as long as he don't getting get KTFO, his skills can only improve as his experience increases

 

[Skip b]

So basically you're saying that you cant give a boxer props unless they completely dominate their opponent flawlessley ... if they cant do that then they aint shyt and/or, the victory is meaningless....

This is your logic??

Not saying that you bytch ass Troll, I'm just not giving Trout props for his weight draining ass beating a shot blow up lww in Cotto by the skin of his teeth, and I damn sure aint giving Props to Canelo for beating that overhyped fighter in Trout, in a fight where he clearly got his head boxed off and won no more than 4 rounds, and the press sitting ringside vehemently felt he lost

 

[patscorpio]

:idk:

As he ups his competition he will improve... as long as he don't getting get KTFO, his skills can only improve as his experience increases

yeah but he shouldn't be having stamina/conditioning problems at his age..no matter how his skills are