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Spence vs Crawford would be the biggest fight in either guys career and the biggest possible payday excluding a Manny fight.
After Wilder/Fury II I have no doubt Fox/ESPN could flood their marketing and get hype going for the match.
Crawford PPV buys have been trash but so have his dance partners, he still had 1.5mil view and 2mil views on his recent ESPN fights and was on First Take heavy. This idea no one knows who he is is a reach. I think ppl just ain't willing to pay $75 for fights they don't care about :manny:
Neither dude is a "star" in the Floyd or Manny vein imo. Wilder wasn't even a star numbers wise despite his profile as a HW with high KO % foreal foreal.
so I think it's unfair to hold black american fighters to a super high standard given that context. Even with all that at their current levels I don't think 500k+ buys is a crazy expectation with guaranteed purses over $10 mil each
 

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He was all over the place thanking her, I think the WBC even gave her an award and she was doing this the whole time.
 

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That :cape:shyt fukked up


Don’t trust Women with $$$$ .... it could’ve been worse :manny:


Lemme share a story with y’all... in the 90s my uncle got locked up for selling bricks to an undercover... uncle goes to jail his wife cheats on him N ends up leaving my uncle for dude

Years later uncles ex wife N dude still together N dudes son like 16-17 gets shot in the back N killed by the police...dude ends up getting like a couple milly wrongful death settlement ... dude keeps his dead sons cell phone for memories N shyt....

Dude gets pulled over for something dumb ... cops go thru the dead sons cell phone...they find a nude On the phone from a teenage girl the dead son had received... bam possession of child porn... dude gets locked up N later :dead:deported


My uncles ex wife convinces dude to give her control of the cash (they been together damn near 15 yrs) N she’ll send it to him So he can come back :youngsabo:



bytch took off with erry damn cent... didn’t send dude a dime of his millions :damn:


Trust Women with Money brehs :heh:
 

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That :cape:shyt fukked up


Don’t trust Women with $$$$ .... it could’ve been worse :manny:


Lemme share a story with y’all... in the 90s my uncle got locked up for selling bricks to an undercover... uncle goes to jail his wife cheats on him N ends up leaving my uncle for dude

Years later uncles ex wife N dude still together N dudes son like 16-17 gets shot in the back N killed by the police...dude ends up getting like a couple milly wrongful death settlement ... dude keeps his dead sons cell phone for memories N shyt....

Dude gets pulled over for something dumb ... cops go thru the dead sons cell phone...they find a nude On the phone from a teenage girl the dead son had received... bam possession of child porn... dude gets locked up N later :dead:deported


My uncles ex wife convinces dude to give her control of the cash (they been together damn near 15 yrs) N she’ll send it to him So he can come back :youngsabo:



bytch took off with erry damn cent... didn’t send dude a dime of his millions :damn:


Trust Women with Money brehs :heh:
:gucci::mjtf::mindblown::mindblown::mindblown::mindblown::mindblown::mindblown::mindblown::mindblown::mindblown::mindblown::mindblown::mindblown::mindblown::mindblown::mindblown::mindblown::mindblown::mindblown:
 

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That :cape:shyt fukked up


Don’t trust Women with $$$$ .... it could’ve been worse :manny:


Lemme share a story with y’all... in the 90s my uncle got locked up for selling bricks to an undercover... uncle goes to jail his wife cheats on him N ends up leaving my uncle for dude

Years later uncles ex wife N dude still together N dudes son like 16-17 gets shot in the back N killed by the police...dude ends up getting like a couple milly wrongful death settlement ... dude keeps his dead sons cell phone for memories N shyt....

Dude gets pulled over for something dumb ... cops go thru the dead sons cell phone...they find a nude On the phone from a teenage girl the dead son had received... bam possession of child porn... dude gets locked up N later :dead:deported


My uncles ex wife convinces dude to give her control of the cash (they been together damn near 15 yrs) N she’ll send it to him So he can come back :youngsabo:



bytch took off with erry damn cent... didn’t send dude a dime of his millions :damn:


Trust Women with Money brehs :heh:
Sheesh.
 

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I agree, you're not understanding what I'm saying. For us hardcore fans yeah it's a dream fight, to not so hardcore fans they don't care. Spence barely is breaking into being a star(which is why he wants to fight Danny and Manny first to build his profile), and Crawford isn't a star at all.

It doesn't make 'sense', because it won't make the type of money it could possibly make. I hate to say it, but if we talking money Spence has the right idea of it. His original plan was to face Thurman(who already had a name built up) for a mega fight, but with Thurman basically falling off a cliff now people are saying Crawford, yet Crawford has done nothing to build the fight up and make it a mega fight.

If anything the WBO needs to actually force Crawford to fight his mandatories to build a profile. In order the WBo contenders are
1. Danny Garcia
2. Vergil Ortiz Jr
3. Mikey Garcia
4. Maurice Hooker
5. Regis Prograis

Bud could fight two names off that list and finally build a profile, but we know Bob won't do it cause he is protecting him until he cashes him out and discards him like he did to Manny before him and like he was trying to do to Floyd, Oscar, Mikey, etc.

Think you underestimate Crawford's profile a bit, or overestimate Thurman's. Bud is a bigger name than Thurman, more people know who he is. Same with Porter, more people know Crawford. You can make an argument for Danny Garcia or Spence being more known than Crawford among casuals but not Porter, Thurman or any 154er PBC fighters including Charlo.

It's not everything but look at their social media following numbers. Thurman, Porter and the 154er roster clearly lagging behind Pac, Swift, Spence and Bud. Danny is kinda the odd one out with his popularity going downhill recently but still he's pretty known.
 

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Spence making the fights he needs to make to make himself a household name

If Bud was actually fighting nikkas it’d be a more mainstream fight

This nikka bud losing views from the lead in fight... how many main events does less viewers than the undercard :hhh:


ESPN can only tell us so many times he gotta mean streak he can switch his boxing stance :gladbron:


This last fight PBC fighters got brought up more than Mean Machine :beli:


2020 Kell Brook ain’t goin move the needle either :heh:

Exactly
Crazy how we gotta wait for the nikka that's supposed to be top 5 p4p to build his rep up. :mjlol:

I don't even know what ESPN mention more, Bud's mean streak or Fury being lineal champion. fukkin drinking game ass commentary
 

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Exactly
Crazy how we gotta wait for the nikka that's supposed to be top 5 p4p to build his rep up. :mjlol:

I don't even know what ESPN mention more, Bud's mean streak or Fury being lineal champion. fukkin drinking game ass commentary
If you wanna catch alcohol poisoning :sadcam:
 

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If anything the WBO needs to actually force Crawford to fight his mandatories to build a profile. In order the WBo contenders are
1. Danny Garcia
2. Vergil Ortiz Jr
3. Mikey Garcia
4. Maurice Hooker
5. Regis Prograis

WBO does force T-craw to face his mandatory..what do you think Mean Machine was?

with regards to the mandatory, do you think Danny Garcia will actually take this fight if the WBO orders it? You see how he moves in his own career. He's not exactly campaigning for his title shot. thats not the fault of the WBO or Crawford.

Ortiz Jr would love to see and unlike Danny he would take it in a heartbeat and wants a shot

Mikey Garcia is a wildcard because it looks he's getting the pacquiao fight next. all signs are pointing to it

hooker and prograis are fighting each other - the winner will prolly be a future wbo mandatory
 

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WBO does force T-craw to face his mandatory..what do you think Mean Machine was?

with regards to the mandatory, do you think Danny Garcia will actually take this fight if the WBO orders it? You see how he moves in his own career. He's not exactly campaigning for his title shot. thats not the fault of the WBO or Crawford.

Ortiz Jr would love to see and unlike Danny he would take it in a heartbeat and wants a shot

Mikey Garcia is a wildcard because it looks he's getting the pacquiao fight next. all signs are pointing to it

hooker and prograis are fighting each other - the winner will prolly be a future wbo mandatory

And he still won't fight none of them. :unimpressed:
 
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