Math did it the right way. He started out interviewing battlers, and slowly branched out. Using battle rap as a stepping stone is a formula for success IMO. You've seen Queenzflip do it, and PSA although at a lower level. He's showing the formula, you start with the battlers, then go after the street emcees, etc ,
This is where Mook fukked up at. Instead of building up a fanbase, he went tried to go straight to the top without building it up. The podcast was terrible anyway. Same issue with Verb's attempt at a podcast. How are y'all not gonna use battle rap to build your shyt up? That's what you're known for.
The great thing about Math's show is that he doesn't even need guest. He can do a good show with the crew he has in there.