The Official Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice Movie Thread

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I enjoyed it for what it was. I thought it was a little all over the place honestly. Should of been way more action but they felt the need to rehash Batman parents dying or the millionth time. With that said The Battle was off the chain and showed Batman's intelligence very well. I liked Henry as Clark even more now in the 2nd movie. Overall the first hour and half was a Superman Sequel and a Batman Reboot. The last hour was full on Justice League Prequel. I can't give Zack that ending either, a little dramatic. But it wasn't 29% bad I just think the critics were acting like they were going to get the 2nd coming of Christ because anyone who grew up in the 70's and 80's knows there's been rumors of Batman and Superman teaming up on the Big Screen for decades. Basically WB used a cheat code with this film and pretty much set up there entire Universe in 2 films basically.

Now the tables are set and they can have there universe. I will say Ben didn't do that bad at all though there were times I still saw Ben Affleck and not the character. Hispster Lex wasn't as bad as previews but he wasn't good either. It was like Jesse was acting a little to much like Jim Carrey from "Batman Forever". Also some of the Batman scenes were ripped from previous movies like the whole Batwing scene. I did think Ben did good with the fighting. Lois plotline was beyond pointless but they had to have her in the story.

Jeremy Irons definitely killed it as Alfred in a limited role. Doomsday was completely out of place and just put there to bring in the Justice League. I thought Wonder Woman was the sh!t personally. I grew up on the 70's TV show so seeing her live action really brought me back. Overall I give it B-/C+. It wasn't great but it wasn't bad. Just average. WB did what they needed to do and that's established there Universe quickly. Seeing the film though makes me kinda wish Nolan directed "Man of Steel" and This and Bale came back because Zack still kept the Nolanesque dark style. Plus Nolan was an Executive Producer on this film as well as "MOS" even though he didn't direct. Overall I'm torn, I saw a lot of good things but the execution wasn't there all the way. But critics overdid it with bad reviews.

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how was the batwing scene copied ??

no Batman movie has EVER done something like that especially this epic bro
 

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That wasn't the question. You said as casuals they understood it "perfectly" so my question was valid yet you somehow avoided answering it. The question still stands sir. Will you answer at the risk of contradicting yourself?:jbhmm:
Moving goalposts:russ:


I asked them did they like the movie... They said yes

I asked them if they understood what was going on... They said yes...


So what goalposts did I just move nikka? I'll ask you again... Did they need to do all that to like they movie yes or no?:jbhmm:
 

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Moving goalposts:russ:


I asked them did they like the movie... They said yes

I asked them if they understood what was going on... They said yes...


So what goalposts did I just move nikka? I'll ask you again... Did they need to do all that to like they movie yes or no?:jbhmm:

The argument was whether casuals could catch the more obscure references not whether they enjoyed the movie. Just say they didn't get the Darkseid stuff and keep it moving.
 

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That also means they were out in the world and Luthor (not Lex right??) could have observed and documented like he did the JL members.
They didn't show him having any knowledge of them so why assume he does?
I thought Robin being the Joker was also a possibility?

why would robin ever be the joker ??? :what:
 

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I'm not a reader, but I've always thought Superman was a pretty boring character (a common knock, so don't kill me) i don't friggin understand why they couldn't make him "cool." Like what are people gonna do, whine that "Superman is supposed to be fukkin boring! fukkin Snyder/Singer/etc!!!!" ... yeah, probably now that i think about it. Here he was brooding and still boring when he could have easily been a lot more likable. the montage of him saving people was great minus the Holly Hunter lisping over the top dialogue.
I see it as he isn't necessarily brooding but realistically he is gonna to let his emotions get the better of him from time to time (terrorist scene in the beginning). You got to remember that this is a fairly new thing for him so he is still dealing with the responsibility, and he's being vilified for every little slip up (and the fact that he is an uber powerful alien)
 

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The movie itself wasn't deep but things were thrown in that had no relevance to anything else that happened in the movie. These are things that comic writers are creating theories about and you stated makes sense if you saw a different movie before hand. It's not an issue of the movie going over peoples head, it's just not a well put together film. It tried to be deep, failed and the entertainment value dropped because of it. That's why even a lot of those who liked it said it was good not great, mention story, editing and pacing issues and always seem to mention that it's not a perfect movie before saying what they like about it.

The movie wasn't horrible but it had flaws, how much you liked it depends on how much those flaws bother you.

Things thrown in such as what? Being that the movie is called Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice. Everything in the film were either about setting up Batman versus Superman or dawning of the Justice League. You can say that it has left a lot of holes in there because there's like 30 minutes of scenes that are left out which are going to be in the Ultimate cut this July, but to say they're thrown in and have no relevance to anything isn't true.

I think the COMMON complaint which is really the only real complaint to have is the EDITING and that's because this wasn't the cut that Snyder wanted to put out but have no choice but to chop up and put out into theaters. As I said before, this was the same exact situation with Watchmen to which the Director's and Ultimate Cut (which the animated story interwoven) were damn near perfect.
 

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I know this movie was meant to be dark but I laugh so many times.

So is metropolis in New Jersey? I thought it was a west coast city.

No, in the comics... both Gotham and Metropolis represented NYC. Coast City represented the west coast or LA, Central City represented the midwest (all pretty obvious by the names).
 

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Things thrown in such as what? Being that the movie is called Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice. Everything in the film were either about setting up Batman versus Superman or dawning of the Justice League. You can say that it has left a lot of holes in there because there's like 30 minutes of scenes that are left out which are going to be in the Ultimate cut this July, but to say they're thrown in and have no relevance to anything isn't true.

I think the COMMON complaint which is really the only real complaint to have is the EDITING and that's because this wasn't the cut that Snyder wanted to put out but have no choice but to chop up and put out into theaters. As I said before, this was the same exact situation with Watchmen to which the Director's and Ultimate Cut (which the animated story interwoven) were damn near perfect.
People seem to be very forgiving of the studio putting out an incomplete product then selling them the finished product later. If you enjoyed the theatrical release for what it was that's fine but don't try to sell me the idea that it's unfair to judge the film as released because they cut it in a way that would maximize profit but caused the finished product to suffer. I'm never buying the 3 hour cut and may never see it, the same is probably true of most of the audience so the film will be judged by the theatrical cut, which I and many others found disappointing.
 

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People seem to be very forgiving of the studio putting out an incomplete product then selling them the finished product later. If you enjoyed the theatrical release for what it was that's fine but don't try to sell me the idea that it's unfair to judge the film as released because they cut it in a way that would maximize profit but caused the finished product to suffer. I'm never buying the 3 hour cut and may never see it, the same is probably true of most of the audience so the film will be judged by the theatrical cut, which I and many others found disappointing.
Yeah, it's like Zack can't make a coherent movie in under 2 and a half hours. This is twice now.
Watchmen's theatrical version was better than this though.
 

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‘The Boss,’ ‘Batman v Superman’ Are Neck and Neck in Fandango Advance Ticket Sales



The superhero saga has a one-point lead on Melissa McCarthy comedy in ticketer’s Fanticipation index

“Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice” and Melissa McCarthy‘s “The Boss” are neck and neck in Fandango’s advanced ticket sales, giving the new comedy a shot at dethroning the superhero saga. According to Fandango’s Fanticipation movie buzz index released on Thursday, “Batman v Superman” scored 81 out of 100 points, whereas “The Boss” tallied 80.



McCarthy’s latest R-rated comedy is also outselling “Tammy” (directed by her husband, Ben Falcone) at the same point in the respective movies’ selling cycles.

STX’s “Hardcore Henry” scored 66 points and is outselling “Hitman: Agent 47” at the same point in the sales cycle.

“Movie fans in search of a date night or girls’ night out are looking forward to Melissa McCarthy‘s latest outing as ‘The Boss,'” says Fandango managing editor Erik Davis, “while action fans will revisit the big-screen showdown between Batman and Superman in its third weekend or plan to take a wildly innovative ride with ‘Hardcore Henry.'” On Tuesday, TheWrap reported that turnout for the Henry Cavill-Ben Affleck comic book adaptation is expected to drop by half after suffering a massive decline of 69.1 percent in its second weekend. It’s projected to earn less than half of its $51.3 million from last weekend.

“The Boss,” in which McCarthy plays a disgraced industry titan who tries to redeem her reputation by building a brownie empire, is looking to open in the low $20 million range. That’s on par with the actress’ recent box office hits, including last year’s “Spy,” which opened to $29 million, and “Tammy,” which debuted to $21.6 million in 2014.
Thought the story was funny so I'll leave this here.

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Also I officially saw the movie last night. I'm not good at reviews so I'll do a simple pros and cons

Pros
- The Bats vs Supes was well done, I'm not gonna lie and say it wasn't although the reason Supes even bothered to show up for the fight was forced.
- Batman was cool. It's probably been said a lot already but he really was the highlight which was expected. Anyone who expected Superman to be a star in a movie with Batman was outright in denial lol
- The trio fighting Doomsday was cool, I'm a sucker for flashy fights (when they're done correctly) and WW was cool.

Cons
- The reviewers who said this movie was badly cut and edited were right. A lot of scenes felt random and very confusing which took away the overall flow and enjoyment of the film. For example the dream scenes..why? They weren't needed. The Flash scene especially was just ridiculous.
- The metahuman clips while enjoyable were very random. It ties into my first con actually, the scenes just broke flow and just seemed really random. To me the scene also showed how much DC is struggling to build the JL team and them throwing that shyt in is them basically saying, fukk it we're gonna take a shortcut.
- Lex was the worst...absolute worst. I'd say more but that'd be beating a dead horse.
- Superman was boring but going on about that is also beating a dead horse.
- Doomsday....ugh

Not serious/ petty nitpicks
- The Senator lady was annoying. The way she talks is like nails on a chalkboard lol
- Lex's assistant...why do all these rich billionaire types have these women beside them that might as well be skeletons? Eat some food lady! :damn:

Overall score 6/10. Fights was cool everything else..meh:manny:
 

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I feel it was mainly him. He added way to many gestures to his character and in between sentences he'd be saying things in a humourous quippy tone like "hmm" or "yes". That's how you'd expect Joker or Riddler to behave like, not Lex Luthor. The one thing that especially bothered me was when he was talking to some guy and he put the candy in his mouth then licked his fingers. I was like, bruh :dahell::scust:
 
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