The Official 89th Academy Awards Thread - ABC, 8:30PM ET

[Poetical Poltergeist]

You're wrong

Emma Stone isn't a terrible actress but nothing about her is best actress, not even close.

 

[Ms. Elaine]

I've always wondered how pleasurable it would be to debunk a person's conspiracy theories or believed stereotypes about Black people to their face. The racists that I've been able to do that to literally just block it out of their mind.

Seeing the way no one came out and was like, "Damn, yea, yall, I need to reevaluate how quick I am to convict this or that as being an agenda about blah blah blah" shows me that NO MATTER WHAT you prove... people are going to be ignorant scumbags.

Think about what it means to be in your living room, kids around and saying a whole bunch of conspiracy theories in front of your kids... but not correct your viewpoint when shyt is shown to be false less than 2 minutes later... When you think about it...shyt is disturbing as fukk.

These are the kind of the people I can't stand the most and usually end up ignoring all together - both online and in real life. When you can't concede that you're wrong (or have ever been wrong), you actually lose all credibility.

 

[Optimus Prime]

look at the Rock
He's ready to beat someone's candy ass

 

[DPresidential]

These are the kind of the people I can't stand the most and usually end up ignoring all together - both online and in real life. When you can't concede that you're wrong (or have ever been wrong), you actually lose all credibility.

Agreed.

The problem is... people who are rational and reasonable, their thought process is more concrete but can bend at the right times.

People who are constantly looking to create these fantastical theories about EVERYTHING have a thought process made out of water...you can't trap it. No matter what, they'll be able to leak out of some crevice and never be pinned down and confronted.

Take a look at the flat earth thread in the Coliseum. Text book example.

 

[nieman]

But that's the thing about "truly representing us" is that we all aren't the same. @SirBiatch asked if any black people care about back to the future. For him, as a black man, he doesn't and that shyt is foreign to him. For me and my people, back to the future is like sacred text lol. The black experience isn't monolithic. There are things we share in common but we're all different. Someone who grew up in Miami is going to have a different experience than me growing up in the D.C. area. Someone who grew up in poverty will have a different set of experiences than someone who came from wealth or a comfortable middle class situation. The black experience is boyz in the hood, menace to society, new jack city, Selma, think like a man, Malcolm x, fences, hidden figures,and moonlight all at once. I watch boyz in the hood and menace to society and I can't relate to any of that. But I can relate to boomerang or the core theme in moonlight or self discovery and trying to figure out who I am as a teenager and young adult. Or the relationship drama in About last night.

Cosby feels more real to me and my experiences than good times. Doesn't mean either one is wrong and not true. It speaks to the diversity of us as a people and that should always be celebrated

Well said. And if you (well I know you do) but anyone pays attentions to my posts on such matter, that's my overall problem with it. It has to be a "black film" in the traditional sense rather than a film with black people to gain general acceptance. We as black people are some, if not the the most embracing people in the world, while simulataneously being the most excluding people. That "you can't/can do that but we can/can't" mentality really turns me off sometimes.

 

[No1]

It's not about confusing me homie. I know brothers who are gay. They've had similar issues and similar experiences. That's what I'm saying. The black experience isn't one thing. It isn't two things. It's multiple things with multiple stories. My story won't be yours and vice versa nor should it be. And there's nothing wrong with doing a coming of age story about a black boy who happens to be gay. Me saying that's part of the black experience lies simply in that he's black and that's his experience. We get caught up in trying to tell one story when we all don't have one story. I went to St. John's but I went to grad school with people who went to HBCUs. Doesn't make my experience in queens any less black than their experiences.

Idk man. Does the argument come down to how one feels about homosexuality? Cause the shyt doesn't bother me at all.

Of course it's about homosexuality. This response is the exact reason the movie was made.

 

[nieman]

Of course it's about homosexuality. This response is the exact reason the movie was made.

I disagree. I don't think it was a gay movie, but more of a coming of age story. The lone "gay scene" can be compared to Sug Avery and Celie's tryst. It was damn near the same movie/premise - with a person struggling with the grips of life while finding themselves in a world that bullies them for being perceived as one way. The first first person to show him love became the one that showed him love, the second person that showed him love was a conflicting character in his life. He was asexual for most of the movie, but obviously lonely. Who cares if was made by a gay man, when they didn't even play up to the "gay".

My problem is that it doesn't flow, making the watching experience shaky for me. Instead of being shot in 3 parts/scenes, I would've suggested the teenager life, more of the adult life, and sprinkling the child life throughout those 2 parts. The childhood part didn't really need to be there other than the 2 scenes with Juan.

 

[CourtesyFlush]

Was Bill Paxton mentioned at all?

 

[UserNameless]

Of course it's about homosexuality. This response is the exact reason the movie was made.

That's what I'm sayin...

...and the lines are being blurred and that can't happen. It minimizes the plight.




@MartyMcFly I appreciate the thoughtful post and the insight. .. the discussion really needs its own thread if we can operarationalize things and really nail down the discussion prompt.


Glad these black folks got an award tho. I applaud their artistry.

 

[Sensitive Blake Griffin]

Wait... moonlight actually won best pic? I thought lala won? I turned the channel when I saw they won what fukkery happened

 

[semicko82]

@Wenzel Dashington thanks for the neg .

 

[MartyMcFly]

Wait... moonlight actually won best pic? I thought lala won? I turned the channel when I saw they won what fukkery happened

Fell asleep?

 

[MartyMcFly]

Was Bill Paxton mentioned at all?

Yup. Jennifer Aniston mentioned him before the in memoriam montage

 

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[SanchoPanda]

People really keep mentioning ratings when it was the end of the show already.