The Official 87th Academy Awards Thread

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Why bring up "Selma's Box office though? It did better than a majority of the Best Pic nominees including "Birdman, Whiplash, Theory of Everything and Boyhood" The facts are the facts, Selma got done dirty cause they wanted to use "LBJ" the white guy not getting treated right against it. So again Birdman just sweeped the Oscars yet it grossed Less then "Selma". The box office had nothing to do with it. The Oscars history on race is TERRIBLE and can't be defended. Selma numbers are in line with most Bio-Pics. Selma lost cause it didn't have a White Savoir period.
I'm on to some different shyt. If we are demanding that our voices be heard and demanding that our movies get awards, then how about WE start going to see those movies? How about WE get off our asses and go buy a ticket rather than waiting for someone on the coli to drop the link to download? I'm not saying it would've helped at all I'm saying that I'm disappointed a movie that was incredible, with a timely message and such an important movie sort of came and went with barely any attention from the people who need to be paying attention and putting their money where their mouth is yet complain anytime hollywood gives us a tyler perry vehicle or a movie where militants on this site will say "oh a c00n movie"
Looking again, Marty is right here. We have to stop saying they didn't give it to us and start taking it...
 

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1. Steve McQueen is pretty militant bruh, check him out I'm serious
2. I'll give you this, although being a billionaire should count for something.
3. True
4. Selma was done on a shoe string budget. There was also a non race controversy (LBJ)
5. 12 years does have a white savior, but the movie was not about that. Is Selma militant? Yes. And it should not have changed that.

David should have won for best oscar. My problem is black people in the industry get one shot, if they don't close it they go back to being regular people, like us, on the couch/bed watching the oscars from home. I hope David and Ava get more chances but I won't hold my breath.

McQueen is no way a militant. I've heard his interviews and he is a moderate liberal at best; And Selma had tons of racial controversies when it was screened. Remember that the context of my post was speaking in the voice of the academy and why they chose 12 Years over Selma. Ava will get TONS of chances and she will win an award....when the academy decides its her turn. Its all politics, breh.
 

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@kp404 too bad the young logic didnt work for best actor :mjcry:
I think that the academy did that so Birdman wouldn't clean the awards so its a pity award for Redmayne. I bet that's why they did it. Birdman already had 4 MAJOR wins so they dump off one of the other big ones to another hot commodity; and let's not act like Redmayne is a kid; he's like 35 and been acting for 15 years and some change
 

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I'm on to some different shyt. If we are demanding that our voices be heard and demanding that our movies get awards, then how about WE start going to see those movies? How about WE get off our asses and go buy a ticket rather than waiting for someone on the coli to drop the link to download? I'm not saying it would've helped at all I'm saying that I'm disappointed a movie that was incredible, with a timely message and such an important movie sort of came and went with barely any attention from the people who need to be paying attention and putting their money where their mouth is yet complain anytime hollywood gives us a tyler perry vehicle or a movie where militants on this site will say "oh a c00n movie"
I'm pretty sure the majority who went to see Selma were black.
 

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I'm on to some different shyt. If we are demanding that our voices be heard and demanding that our movies get awards, then how about WE start going to see those movies? How about WE get off our asses and go buy a ticket rather than waiting for someone on the coli to drop the link to download? I'm not saying it would've helped at all I'm saying that I'm disappointed a movie that was incredible, with a timely message and such an important movie sort of came and went with barely any attention from the people who need to be paying attention and putting their money where their mouth is yet complain anytime hollywood gives us a tyler perry vehicle or a movie where militants on this site will say "oh a c00n movie"

I agree with your point but even if Selma grossed 100 Million it would of still got done dirty cause it didn't have a White Savoir. I loved "12 Years" it was raw and real but at the end of the day Brad Pitt was right there to saved the day in the end. Blacks make up 12% of the population. Any movie needs a nice make up of races for it to be a success, Black casted films included. You think "Ride Along" did well cause it was all Blacks? No Whites love Kevin Hart too. The issue is let's be honest, most White Americans do not like to be reminded of Racist stuff in the past. They most likely skipped "Selma". Of course that's hypocritical cause they can turn around and make "American Sniper' 300 Million cause it was about a "White" hero or figure. I'm not saying White people didn't watch "Selma" or "12 years" cause they did but the reality is both would of done better if it was more than just Black people seeing them. I still say we make our own movies like Tyler Perry does and that way we can market to our people. We can't relay on Hollywood to tell our story correctly. It's to much politics.
 

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Looking again, Marty is right here. We have to stop saying they didn't give it to us and start taking it...

Look at American Sniper..a movie that spoke directly to a section of the american population and it's a huge freaking hit..huge. There's no reason Selma, a much better film by all accounts, shouldn't be just as big of a hit if not bigger. But nah, we want to see shyt for free. We want to see shyt that's going to make us laugh. We want to go see the hobbit only to talk about how terrible it was rather than going to see a movie that we needed to see at a time when we needed to see it. Hollywood listens to money. Case in point: Empire is the biggest show on network tv right now. Huge. The Walking Dead is the one show bigger than it right now and because of Empire's success, networks are going to start looking to have more shows with black casts. Not just Empire, but Black Ish, How to get away with murder, and even fresh off the boat is helping the cause, and it's because the shows are getting good or great or phenomenal ratings and the networks are paying attention. The freaking tv version of Uncle Buck is going to be produced with an all black cast. Let that marinate for a minute: A sitcom on network tv based on a beloved 80s movie with an all white cast is being produced for television with an all black cast. You think that's by accident? No. That's an exec looking at numbers and realizing that "hm, maybe there's something to this whole minority thing" and deciding to roll the dice.

If you go see more movies like Selma and make them huge hits, then you get more movies like Selma.
 

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I think that the academy did that so Birdman wouldn't clean the awards so its a pity award for Redmayne. I bet that's why they did it. Birdman already had 4 MAJOR wins so they dump off one of the other big ones to another hot commodity; and let's not act like Redmayne is a kid; he's like 35 and been acting for 15 years and some change
Hes 33. 30 yrs younger than keaton
 

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McQueen is no way a militant. I've heard his interviews and he is a moderate liberal at best; And Selma had tons of racial controversies when it was screened. Remember that the context of my post was speaking in the voice of the academy and why they chose 12 Years over Selma. Ava will get TONS of chances and she will win an award....when the academy decides its her turn. Its all politics, breh.
Of course. It's like Spike Lee said, it's on to the next one. She'll be back and better before, but this was an experience for her, and she'll take it forward. I agree, it's all politics.
 

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I agree with your point but even if Selma grossed 100 Million it would of still got done dirty cause it didn't have a White Savoir. I loved "12 Years" it was raw and real but at the end of the day Brad Pitt was right there to saved the day in the end. Blacks make up 12% of the population. Any movie needs a nice make up of races for it to be a success, Black casted films included. You think "Ride Along" did well cause it was all Blacks? No Whites love Kevin Hart too. The issue is let's be honest, most White Americans do not like to be reminded of Racist stuff in the past. They most likely skipped "Selma". I'm not saying White people didn't watch "Selma" or "12 years" cause they did but the reality is both would of done better if it was more than just Black people seeing them. I still say we make our own movies like Tyler Perry does and that way we can market to our people. We can't relay on Hollywood to tell our story correctly. It's to much politics.

Yeah but again I don't give a damn about the oscar, I'm making a larger point about our entertainment and us complaining about shyt when in reality, making the movie a huge hit has more of a ripple effect than an oscar win does. If Selma is a hit, then you get more movies like it meaning more movies worthy of being considered oscar worthy, which means more of us at awards shows which also puts more of us in the academy.
 

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