The Official 87th Academy Awards Thread

[pickles]

Eddie!!!!!!!

You realize ol'boy cleaned up at every award show. I am actually surprised he wasn't more of a lock for the Oscar.

 

[MartyMcFly]

And that's completely fair. We have to remember those confessionals are only from 10 people and don't tell the entire story. Call me an optimist I always feel there is a chance to change peoples minds.

I'm an optimist too but I also don't want people to just vote for something just because they feel like they have to. If you truly didn't think the movie was that great, don't vote for it. If you do, then give it your vote. And I'm with @kp404 no amount of campaigning was going to change that fact. The movie deserved an oscar but it also deserved to make a lot more money than it did at the box office so before we start getting upset at a group of people who vote for what movies should get rewards, let's get upset at our people who aren't going to see the movie. It's only made about $50 million, which is great for the $20 million budget but it should've made a lot more than that.

 

[kp404]

If 12 years got it done they anything could have. You have to beat them at their own game.

You realize why 12 Years won and Selma didn't?

1.Steve McQueen was a British man and is known for being a 'safe' guy who doesn't speak out politically; Ava Duvernay spoke out as soon as she was hired to direct Selma
2.Brad pitt produced 12 years; Oprah produced Selma; who's whiter?
3.McQueen has been directing for years; Ava is relatively young and she has plenty of time to win; that's exactly what academy thinks; wait your turn mentality
4.12 Years a Slave is light years better a movie than Selma.
5.Selma depicts blacks as autonomous and organized against and without whites for much of the movie; Ava defended this, which is Black Power. Whites hate the Black Power movement or any instance of blacks practicing self-determination. That's the real death of a Oscar chance there.

there are many more reasons but those are the main ones. It never stood a chance.

 

[the next guy]

I'm an optimist too but I also don't want people to just vote for something just because they feel like they have to. If you truly didn't think the movie was that great, don't vote for it. If you do, then give it your vote. And I'm with @kp404 no amount of campaigning was going to change that fact. The movie deserved an oscar but it also deserved to make a lot more money than it did at the box office so before we start getting upset at a group of people who vote for what movies should get rewards, let's get upset at our people who aren't going to see the movie. It's only made about $50 million, which is great for the $20 million budget but it should've made a lot more than that.

Good Point. You don't release a civil rights movie during the holiday season. Also during the dead months for movies. It mad its budget back but it should have grossed 75-80 million.

 

[pickles]

Here's the thing. though, all that doesn't matter if Oprah did something more then to rely on her name for promotion. She has more influence and money then everyone else in that room. She should could done more. Like not start after Toronto.

Nah man, the Academy people for some reason hate Oprah. She really has not been able to be an insider in Hollywood, even though she has produced stuff.

 

[Poetical Poltergeist]

This scene pretty much tells what happened tonight.

 

[MartyMcFly]

Good Point. You don't release a civil rights movie during the holiday season. Also during the dead months for movies. It mad its budget back but it should have grossed 75-80 million.

Breh you're giving us way too many excuses. It came out during a good time of year but we didn't come out in droves to see it like we should've. But we'll line up for Ride Along and Ride Along 2 and Think Like a Man and Think Like a Man too and The Best Man Holiday. It ain't about the timing, it's about us getting off our lazy asses and going to support something that isn't the typical crap we go support at the movie theaters. I'm not about excuses, I'm about action and sometimes you gotta look in the mirror and realize what the fukk is up.

 

[the next guy]

You realize why 12 Years won and Selma didn't?

1.Steve McQueen was a British man and is known for being a 'safe' guy who doesn't speak out politically; Ava Duvernay spoke out as soon as she was hired to direct Selma
2.Brad pitt produced 12 years; Oprah produced Selma; who's whiter?
3.McQueen has been directing for years; Ava is relatively young and she has plenty of time to win; that's exactly what academy thinks; wait your turn mentality
4.12 Years a Slave is light years better a movie than Selma.
5.Selma depicts blacks as autonomous and organized against and without whites for much of the movie; Ava defended this, which is Black Power. Whites hate the Black Power movement or any instance of blacks practicing self-determination. That's the real death of a Oscar chance there.

there are many more reasons but those are the main ones. It never stood a chance.

1. Steve McQueen is pretty militant bruh, check him out I'm serious
2. I'll give you this, although being a billionaire should count for something.
3. True
4. Selma was done on a shoe string budget. There was also a non race controversy (LBJ)
5. 12 years does have a white savior, but the movie was not about that. Is Selma militant? Yes. And it should not have changed that.

David should have won for best oscar. My problem is black people in the industry get one shot, if they don't close it they go back to being regular people, like us, on the couch/bed watching the oscars from home. I hope David and Ava get more chances but I won't hold my breath.

 

[Rapmastermind]

I'm an optimist too but I also don't want people to just vote for something just because they feel like they have to. If you truly didn't think the movie was that great, don't vote for it. If you do, then give it your vote. And I'm with @kp404 no amount of campaigning was going to change that fact. The movie deserved an oscar but it also deserved to make a lot more money than it did at the box office so before we start getting upset at a group of people who vote for what movies should get rewards, let's get upset at our people who aren't going to see the movie. It's only made about $50 million, which is great for the $20 million budget but it should've made a lot more than that.

Why bring up "Selma's Box office though? It did better than a majority of the Best Pic nominees including "Birdman, Whiplash, Theory of Everything and Boyhood" The facts are the facts, Selma got done dirty cause they wanted to use "LBJ" the white guy not getting treated right against it. So again Birdman just sweeped the Oscars yet it grossed Less then "Selma". The box office had nothing to do with it. The Oscars history on race is TERRIBLE and can't be defended. Selma numbers are in line with most Bio-Pics. Selma lost cause it didn't have a White Savoir period.

 

[the cac mamba]

he highlighted 'american' so we know how much of a patriot he is

 

[the next guy]

Breh you're giving us way too many excuses. It came out during a good time of year but we didn't come out in droves to see it like we should've. But we'll line up for Ride Along and Ride Along 2 and Think Like a Man and Think Like a Man too and The Best Man Holiday. It ain't about the timing, it's about us getting off our lazy asses and going to support something that isn't the typical crap we go support at the movie theaters. I'm not about excuses, I'm about action and sometimes you gotta look in the mirror and realize what the fukk is up.

Fair enough. I don't disagree but those were issues I saw from an awards perspective.

 

[MartyMcFly]

Why bring up "Selma's Box office though? It did better than a majority of the Best Pic nominees including "Birdman, Whiplash, Theory of Everything and Boyhood" The facts are the facts, Selma got done dirty cause they wanted to use "LBJ" the white guy not getting treated right against it. So again Birdman just sweeped the Oscars yet it grossed Less then "Selma". The box office had nothing to do with it. The Oscars history on race is TERRIBLE and can't be defended. Selma numbers are in line with most Bio-Pics. Selma lost cause it didn't have a White Savoir period.

I'm on to some different shyt. If we are demanding that our voices be heard and demanding that our movies get awards, then how about WE start going to see those movies? How about WE get off our asses and go buy a ticket rather than waiting for someone on the coli to drop the link to download? I'm not saying it would've helped at all I'm saying that I'm disappointed a movie that was incredible, with a timely message and such an important movie sort of came and went with barely any attention from the people who need to be paying attention and putting their money where their mouth is yet complain anytime hollywood gives us a tyler perry vehicle or a movie where militants on this site will say "oh a c00n movie"

 

[the next guy]

Nah man, the Academy people for some reason hate Oprah. She really has not been able to be an insider in Hollywood, even though she has produced stuff.

I wonder who she pissed off... it definitely race but I sense its also personal with her...

 

[Kitsch]

he highlighted 'american' so we know how much of a patriot he is

 

[FlyRy]

Mexicans own the night

2 straight years a Mexican director wins