The Official 2023 Hip Hop Grammys Thread

Who Will Win Best Rap Album?

  • Kendrick Lamar

    Votes: 46 70.8%
  • Pusha T

    Votes: 11 16.9%
  • DJ Khaled

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Jack Harlow

    Votes: 3 4.6%
  • Future

    Votes: 5 7.7%

  • Total voters
    65
  • Poll closed .

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Shout out to Bronx own Samara Joy winning best new artist at the Grammy’s

shyt looks like her and Ice Spice were at SUNY Purchase around the same time

BX we here man :mjcry:
 

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One thing I gotta say...I really hate Beyonce discourse. Not here on the Coli, I'm talking about twitter/social media. Beyonce is constantly centered as the official purveyor of blackness, and any win or loss she takes is somehow a victory for the race. Like she's Joe Louis circa 1937. It makes any discussion of her art nauseating because no one is allowed to critique it.

A black person won the Grammy for AOTY last year. Stevie Wonder has won it multiple times. Michael Jackson has won it. Lauryn Hill has won it. Ray Charles has won it. Outkast won it. This is not a civil rights issue. It's not a black woman issue either, for those trying to divide across gender lines, while erasing/ignoring Lauryn Hill in order to put Beyonce on a pedestal. It's just weird to me.

I'm still surprised Adele lost btw. I get the sales and industry reasons for Harry Styles but still. Adele sold nearly 6 million records in a couple months (in late 2021), and nearly did a million more sales in 2022.
 

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One thing I gotta say...I really hate Beyonce discourse. Not here on the Coli, I'm talking about twitter/social media. Beyonce is constantly centered as the official purveyor of blackness, and any win or loss she takes is somehow a victory for the race. Like she's Joe Louis circa 1937. It makes any discussion of her art nauseating because no one is allowed to critique it.

A black person won the Grammy for AOTY last year. Stevie Wonder has won it multiple times. Michael Jackson has won it. Lauryn Hill has won it. Ray Charles has won it. Outkast won it. This is not a civil rights issue. It's not a black woman issue either, for those trying to divide across gender lines, while erasing/ignoring Lauryn Hill in order to put Beyonce on a pedestal. It's just weird to me.

I'm still surprised Adele lost btw. I get the sales and industry reasons for Harry Styles but still. Adele sold nearly 6 million records in a couple months (in late 2021), and nearly did a million more sales in 2022.
Her album flamed out a lot faster than the other ones. Once she lost her weight and got her new man her pain ain't hit the same.

Harry Styles wound up dominating radio

Agreed with your post though. You had a young Black girl who does jazz from Castle Hill win Best New Artist. Yet when Beyonce loses Song of the Year, it's "why can't Black people win the big awards? :dry:"
 

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Agreed. It's not enough that they spent the whole night gushing over her, from her being stuck in traffic to getting presented the award again later and being referenced throughout the night even in other speeches. It's not enough that she's the most decorated Grammy artist ever - she needs to win everything.

She ain't Nina Simone. Who also only won a Grammy after she died. Most of our legends in rap won nothing. Who cares
 
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One thing I gotta say...I really hate Beyonce discourse. Not here on the Coli, I'm talking about twitter/social media. Beyonce is constantly centered as the official purveyor of blackness, and any win or loss she takes is somehow a victory for the race. Like she's Joe Louis circa 1937. It makes any discussion of her art nauseating because no one is allowed to critique it.

A black person won the Grammy for AOTY last year. Stevie Wonder has won it multiple times. Michael Jackson has won it. Lauryn Hill has won it. Ray Charles has won it. Outkast won it. This is not a civil rights issue. It's not a black woman issue either, for those trying to divide across gender lines, while erasing/ignoring Lauryn Hill in order to put Beyonce on a pedestal. It's just weird to me.

I'm still surprised Adele lost btw. I get the sales and industry reasons for Harry Styles but still. Adele sold nearly 6 million records in a couple months (in late 2021), and nearly did a million more sales in 2022.


Only THREE black women have ever won AOTY


I personally find that appalling
 

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They left out a lot of important artists in hip hop

No NWA
No Eminem
No Nas
They didn't include a Tupac or Biggie tribute
LL said in the speech leading to the performances that he knows it's hard to get everything in that sort of performance.

Now, this is where BET can legitimately do it right. For their award show, ALL their performances should just be in that vein. You can't squeeze 50 years of rap in 15 minutes, but they can sure try it in 3-4 hours.

And even then, someone's gonna feel left out.
 

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yall got me looking at AOTY lists

1) wtf @ going from 5 to 8 nominees, and now fukking 10 albums nominated the past 2 years, that's stupid AF to me, at that point a nomination is watered down - aint 10 fukking albums in contention for album of the year

2) Jhene Aiko's Chilombo was nominated for AOTY :skip:
 
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