The Official 2023 Hip Hop Grammys Thread

[dora_da_destroyer]

ehh, the only miss with hip hop tribute is jumping from a 2001 jadakiss song to 2018 lil baby song - they skewed super heavy on 80's and 90's, which i don't mind at all, but shyt, we could've skipped the lox and at least had the late 00's repped with ross, wayne, TI, or jeezy...early 10's with a cole verse. but it was great thru kiss's performance

 

[IsThatBrothaMouzone?]

damn... these girls got a much larger reaction then lil baby.. I dont know either of them tho

DAMN they cut a lot out from 1998 on.. Was still beautiful though

Jay definitely produced this.

Scarface and Big Boi held it down for the Dirty but....no Luke? No Cash Money/No Limit? It was good but the agenda was clear. Someone should have had some Pac and Biggie verses in there too.

 

[JordanWearinThe45]

Verse is legendary. He went off. This sub just has a very weird anti-jay energy

And hol up that verse overrated but y’all been dikkeating 4 albums of verses from Nas.

Yea I said it. And I’m a Nas fan but some of you nggas need a reality check

Facts

Leaving myself out of it and why it's personal for me, people always say Jay doesn't rep the streets, he sold out, but this just brings it all full circle.

The thing is, it wasn't and never was just rap. For Jay or his guys. Look at the people at the table. Emory did a 150 month federal sentence for this, to be there at that table.

*Looks @ username* “Real recognize real and you looking familiar”

 

[Ziggiy]

Jay definitely produced this.

Scarface and Big Boi held it down for the Dirty but....no Luke? No Cash Money/No Limit? It was good but the agenda was clear. Someone should have had some Pac and Biggie verses in there too.

Jay had nothing to do with producing the performance.

Nas/Mass Appeal/Questlove put together the show. They’ve been doing the Hip Hop At 50 Celebration since last year with festivals, performances, documentaries, TV shows, etc and have more planned for this year.

 

[ADP]

Obviously there's a lot of factors at hand when staging this kind of performance BUT...

IM WILLING TO BET THEYVE ASKED OTHERS AND THEY DECLINED WHEN TOLD ITS A 20 SECONDS APPEARANCE

only Busta was longer and he's probably the only "animated" rapper that made it from early 90s to today

 

[vdfebduderocks]

Few thoughts:

1) I heard some people say that the Hip Hop 50 performance should've ended the show instead of God Did. Fair argument, but I think it would need a more grand performer. At the same time, if you put a bigger name, that person will outshine EVERYONE. It's why it was smart that Wayne, Jay, Ye, and those guys didn't hop on this.

2) At the same time, you're going to cut out a lot of hip hop in a 15 minute show. Gotta cover the essence and know you're gonna miss a few people.

3) Revisiting God Did, the only thing I wondered is that the table could've been filled with way more people. However, the people he could've added to the table for the Last Supper were probably too real to even fly out to LA. Big Bo, Moya, & Gordo were probably like "f this, I'm not traveling to LA for the Grammys." It's why you basically see them camped out in NY all the time, but they would've fit there. Biggs too, but Biggs never wants to be in the forefront lol.

4) People wondered where TyTy was. TyTy fits a different role than Juan & Emory.

5) Lot of circle of life in the performance. Jay was a bit motivation for Ross for a good chunk of his career. Hell, the MMG name wouldn't exist without Hov lol. Wayne idolized Hov forever. DJ Khaled was popular, but reached different levels under the Roc Nation era thanks to Hov and co. Meanwhile, Khaled was huge for Ross & Wayne's rise.

6) Still crazy to have Juan & Emory there while Hov rapping about drug dealing days. Just wild. You don't see this at the Grammys - ever.

7) God Did was specifically written for them and everyone with a similar comeup to Hov and them. That's why a lot of people just can't relate to the song, which is perfectly ok.

 

[Illmagic]

They didn’t hype it solely on Beyoncé. I mean she still won the most Grammys ever

People cry over this dumb shyt every year

People are in their feelings cause she hasn't won in the general categories. Only one win in the general categories in her career does seem weird for an artist of her stature. However Id have to go back and look to see who she lost to. Somtimes its just timing.

 

[Mike the Executioner]

They left out a lot of important artists in hip hop

No NWA
No Eminem
No Nas
They didn't include a Tupac or Biggie tribute

Eminem hates the Grammys and made it clear he's never going to it again. I'm pretty sure he was asked to come, but if this wasn't enough to motivate him to leave Detroit and make an appearance, nothing will be.

One thing I gotta say...I really hate Beyonce discourse. Not here on the Coli, I'm talking about twitter/social media. Beyonce is constantly centered as the official purveyor of blackness, and any win or loss she takes is somehow a victory for the race. Like she's Joe Louis circa 1937. It makes any discussion of her art nauseating because no one is allowed to critique it.

A black person won the Grammy for AOTY last year. Stevie Wonder has won it multiple times. Michael Jackson has won it. Lauryn Hill has won it. Ray Charles has won it. Outkast won it. This is not a civil rights issue. It's not a black woman issue either, for those trying to divide across gender lines, while erasing/ignoring Lauryn Hill in order to put Beyonce on a pedestal. It's just weird to me.

I'm still surprised Adele lost btw. I get the sales and industry reasons for Harry Styles but still. Adele sold nearly 6 million records in a couple months (in late 2021), and nearly did a million more sales in 2022.

I actually agree with you for the most part. Beyonce herself isn't frustrating and she doesn't bother me. It's all the talk around her. It's what makes people call her the GOAT, it's what makes her #8 on Rolling Stone's best singers list when one of her biggest influences is eighty spots lower. When you think about all that, you think the Academy would recognize her status and give her their biggest award at least once. But she hasn't won it, and she's only won one of the Big Four awards once in her entire career. I could see why diehard fans get confused and wonder what else she has to do.

Adele didn't have a song like "Hello," which was so big, it made her a mega star. She went triple platinum in 2015 off physical sales. That sentence doesn't even sound real, but it actually happened. I feel like Adele mania was at its peak during this time. With 30, people were just happy to see her back in one piece.

 

[dubsmith_nz]

That 50th anniversary performance was special but man did it shine a light on how poor the 2020 rappers are in comparison to the people who came before them though. Energy, skill and performance all dropped off a cliff as soon as Lil Baby turned up.

 

[Ziggiy]

That 50th anniversary performance was special. Man did it shine a light on how poor the 2020 rappers are in comparison to the people who came before them though. Energy, skill and performance all dropped off a cliff as soon as Lil Baby turned up.

It REALLY was embarrassing.

Glorilla, Baby, and Uzi have ZERO stage presence. Hell Souljah Boy, Scrappy and Crime Mob would have done a better job rocking the crowd than these garbage ass misfits that qualify as “rappers” nowadays

 

[dubsmith_nz]

It REALLY was embarrassing.

Glorilla, Baby, and Uzi have ZERO stage presence. Hell Souljah Boy, Scrappy and Crime Mob would have done a better job rocking the crowd than these garbage ass misfits that qualify as “rappers” nowadays

For real, they needed someone with energy like J Cole or Meek to represent for the new school properly. shyt just showed how low Hip Hop has fallen.

 

[Wild self]

Obviously there's a lot of factors at hand when staging this kind of performance BUT...

IM WILLING TO BET THEYVE ASKED OTHERS AND THEY DECLINED WHEN TOLD ITS A 20 SECONDS APPEARANCE

only Busta was longer and he's probably the only "animated" rapper that made it from early 90s to today

I wish that Redman or Ghostface Killah would make an appearance on stage

 

[Lil Bape the PostGod]

Can’t wait to see what bullshyt BET comes up with for this portion of the hip hop awards

 

[DontEemTry]

Jay had nothing to do with producing the performance.

Nas/Mass Appeal/Questlove put together the show. They’ve been doing the Hip Hop At 50 Celebration since last year with festivals, performances, documentaries, TV shows, etc and have more planned for this year.

Was Nas even there? I didn't watch the whole thing

 

[Detroit Wave]

ehh, the only miss with hip hop tribute is jumping from a 2001 jadakiss song to 2018 lil baby song - they skewed super heavy on 80's and 90's, which i don't mind at all, but shyt, we could've skipped the lox and at least had the late 00's repped with ross, wayne, TI, or jeezy...early 10's with a cole verse. but it was great thru kiss's performance

They skipped a whole era and it shows how mainstream hip hop is when the energy was deflated when lil baby came out