The Nightly Show Panel - Black Women And Dating

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im not even saying this to bash bw or anything, but i've dated a white lawyer, accountant and model who all made 6 figures plus sometimes double/triple than me.

I "wasn't on their level" monetary speaking, but I was still the man.

And how many of them were trying to build a family with you and a future with you? How many of them were planning on putting that wealth into the black community? Are those the women that sent your kids to the garbage chute?
 

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many bus drivers make 60-100k a year

same with many cleaning men

"Bu bu but he's not in the same social circles as us professional black women:why:"

A lot of these black women get some success and think they Oprah now,she flat out rejected the idea of a woman making 80K dating a man who makes 40K....But later said since 50K is CONSIDERED middle class income that would be okay....so a extra 10K a year?thats what this is all about:dahell:? Who would want to marry anybody that petty?

They really think a man who makes 40K is going to marry her just so he can take half her money,thats how low these types think of us.....A man aint marrying no woman he aint attracted to or don't love just cuz she make a extra 40K,we talkin bout 40K:aicmon:?

Like i said my sister did just that,and she cooked and cleaned....Why?Because quite frankly he had a more physical,harder job working longer hours....she just happened to make more money.

As a woman you want to cook and clean because you WANT to cook and clean for your man,thats not something you magically are supposed to start wanting to do after marrying somebody who makes the same amount you do:mjlol:....So most likely you women don't cook,clean or excel sexually right NOW:sas1:?

But that cant be why your alone,you make 100K a year,you Oprah status right?,you aint gotta do all that huh:sas2:?

But for real this is more dangerous for the division it causes between black men and women who DONT make nearly that much....This agenda isn't careful at all in stressing the fact that women making 30-40K a year shouldn't have it hard at all finding a good black man,unless they priorities are even more fukked up than the wench women who are focused on money...Nah they push the idea that on every level we broke,in jail,dead with multiple baby mamas:beli:...Its a reason they don't want to be careful with they message though,you a fool if you don't see it:mjpls:
 

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I was under the impression that this conversation was typically dealing with the problems that more financially successful black women have with dating black men.

Middle class to lower middle class black people (And everything lower) have no problem finding black partners. Most black people marry other black people.
"successful black women" (and that's if we define success monetarily) are a statistical anomaly.

These panels are very misleading because they don't represent the average.

Where are the black women on there to explain why they have 3 children by 3 different men?

Where are the black women on there who are 40 lbs over weight who wonder why they can't find a man?

Unfortunately, that is far more representative of what the "average" black woman is like rather than the panels up there with lawyers, judges, hedge fund managers and PhD recipients.

Then on top of that, this misrepresentation up there has the cojones to speak stereotypically of how the "average" black male is below them.

And then you have people actually entertaining these discussions :mindblown:
 

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http://singleandlivingfab.com/

look at the poiosn shes preading


irst, let me say my perspective on being Single and romantic relationships could be considered unconventional and even bold. But I don’t shy away from it, because my opinions are based on my experience, observations and research. It’s also refreshing to say what a lot of women want to say but feel that they can’t say, when it comes to dating.

On The Nightly Show, when we were discussing dating Black men. I chimed in saying something that I typically say about the subject… “Finding a good Black man is like finding a $100 dollar bill in midtown Manhattan. He/it is not going to be available for long.” Meaning, someone is going to snatch it or that good Black man up. To make my point, I continued with a true story about a girlfriend who called one morning to set me up with a guy she went to college with. She had bumped into him about a month prior and found out he was recently divorced. She went on to describe him as a handsome, Harlem doctor who spent a lot of time doing volunteer work in Haiti. PAUSE: I just want to say that most red blooded American women of any race are going to start salivating at the thought of dating a doctor. It’s is the same as a man given the opportunity to date a woman who is a physical match for JLo or Beyonce or Gwenyth. Not saying that all doctors are good men, but for that matter, not all beautiful women are good women. Back to my story.

So my girl felt we would be a good fit. She called me to gauge my interest. Needless to say I was on board, so when she told me she would tell him about me later in the week, I panicked. That’s because I knew that a dude with that personal and professional resume would not be Single for long. I knew the women who already knew him from work and elsewhere, were already circling in the waters. And I was right! I convinced her to call him that morning. She called me back and informed me that he recently started dating someone.

My point is that I don’t think that good Black men, GBM, don’t exist. Rather, I think that most GBM (over 38) are unavailable. They are either in relationships or they are emotionally unavailable because they prefer being Single for a variety of reasons. It becomes more of a painful reality for women looking to date Black men who are 38 or older.

A Black man on twitter helped me prove my position. He reached out to let me know how disappointed he was with my comment and that there were plenty of good Black men. So I challenged him to introduce me to 10 GBM that are over 38. He hit me back with “ok, so the over 38 thing might be an issue”. So there is only an abundance of young, GBM? PAUSE: As a side note, when I was on MSNBC’s Morning Joe last week I was asked about dating and said, “Men over 35 and Single are single for a reason. Either they are undateable or they are not interested in being in a relationship”. I say this because what ever type a man, not even a good man, is looking for he can pretty much find out there because so many women are desperate to have a man that they are willing to work with what he has. Some folks gave me some flack about this comment. But I stand by it. The only thing I would change is making the age 38 instead of 35. Moving on…

Don’t just take my word for it, talk to some Single women you know and ask them about finding a GBM. Look folks, the struggle is real. So anyone who takes issue with what I am saying here about good Black men, instead of a nasty tweet, please send me a list of 10 good, available Black men that are over 38 and are interested in a monogamous relationship and I will match them up with some of really great women. I may even keep one for myself.
 

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First off my "broke daddy" never had a credit card, my broke daddy has over 200k in savings in the bank account, my broke daddy retired early and lives in jamaica 6 months of the year, my broke daddy has never been in debt

The whole purpose of marriage is a union of love and building together for the future. My sister stays at home while my brother in law works, do you think he thinks damn im making 125k a year, the only one contributing to savings, the future?

only undeveloped minds think that way.

Keep it up black women as you get married to yourself

No because your brother in law doesn't also come home to clean the house and do all the domestic duties, does he? He's the head of the household, he makes the breadwinner money, and so she's subservient in the house and has no problem doing so.

Almost no woman has a problem being subservient if the man is making more and being the provider. Most women will RELISH that opportunity. I know it because I'M living it. But women are having a problem with being the primary providers AND being asked to be Suzie Homemaker.
 

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"Bu bu but he's not in the same social circles as us professional black women:why:"

A lot of these black women get some success and think they Oprah now,she flat out rejected the idea of a woman making 80K dating a man who makes 40K....But later said since 50K is CONSIDERED middle class income that would be okay....so a extra 10K a year?thats what this is all about:dahell:? Who would want to marry anybody that petty?

They really think a man who makes 40K is going to marry her just so he can take half her money,thats how low these types think of us.....A man aint marrying no woman he aint attracted to or don't love just cuz she make a extra 40K,we talkin bout 40K:aicmon:?

Like i said my sister did just that,and she cooked and cleaned....Why?Because quite frankly he had a more physical,harder job working longer hours....she just happened to make more money.

As a woman you want to cook and clean because you WANT to cook and clean for your man,thats not something you magically are supposed to start wanting to do after marrying somebody who makes the same amount you do:mjlol:....So most likely you women don't cook,clean or excel sexually right NOW:sas1:?

But that cant be why your alone,you make 100K a year,you Oprah status right?,you aint gotta do all that huh:sas2:?

But for real this is more dangerous for the division it causes between black men and women who DONT make nearly that much....This agenda isn't careful at all in stressing the fact that women making 30-40K a year shouldn't have it hard at all finding a good black man,unless they priorities are even more fukked up than the wench women who are focused on money...Nah they push the idea that on every level we broke,in jail,dead with multiple baby mamas:beli:...Its a reason they don't want to be careful with they message though,you a fool if you don't see it:mjpls:

1. black men marry lower than any other race of men
2. when black men marr yyou can be damn sure it ain't for "finances", they actually love the woman.

3 preach breh
 

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Bottom line miss Exnat is that whites are not checking for sistas. If they're going to step out Asian/Hispanic is going to be their preferred choice.
so u are not going to answer the previous question :ld:

just the sistas huh :mjpls: ? so you're one of those guys. :francis:
 

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No because your brother in law doesn't also come home to clean the house and do all the domestic duties, does he? He's the head of the household, he makes the breadwinner money, and so she's subservient in the house and has no problem doing so.

Almost no woman has a problem being subservient if the man is making more and being the provider. Most women will RELISH that opportunity. I know it because I'M living it. But women are having a problem with being the primary providers AND being asked to be Suzie Homemaker.

yes he does

because for almost a year and half my brother in law was unemployed and my sister was the only one working.
See marriage is a loving union with ups and downs, there is we and not the us mentality.

Instead of this man is only making 40k, it should be we are making 110k together but these broads dont think of it that way. But for the broads that do, they got the ring on teh finger, they got the baby kicking in the belly, they get teh respect and lovea nd admiration.
 

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So you're saying you gonna bring less to the table than your woman but expect to get treated like the head of the household because that's what your broke ass daddy did?

You offer some plumbing and yardwork as a way to compensate for up to 10 to 20 thousand dollars a year difference?

Lmao good one, go find you that chick who has no problem making more money and doing more around the house than you while you sacrifice nothing but offer the handy ability to mow a yard, you bum.

If black women are gonna be expected to be Suzy homemaker for dudes they make more than, they might as well be Suzy homemakers for the broke ass nikkas who they're attracted to and not average looking lame dudes.
Doesn't matter if I bring less money or more. I'm going to do my best in this racist land and support my family and my own people. We will both have our duties in the household as i've said and I'm not changing my stance.

She could make more than me and I could make less and as long as she is cool with my way then we will be fine. I could even be the breadwinner and she could have no job and I would still love her. I have countless relatives who all are married for more than 30 years as proof that the way I chose works.

I don't care what names you call me I refuse to be emasculated. :ufdup:
 

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"successful black women" (and that's if we define success monetarily) are a statistical anomaly.

These panels are very misleading because they don't represent the average.

Where are the black women on there to explain why they have 3 children by 3 different men?

Where are the black women on there who are 40 lbs over weight who wonder why they can't find a man?

Unfortunately, that is far more representative of what the "average" black woman is like rather than the panels up there with lawyers, judges, hedge fund managers and PhD recipients.

Then on top of that, this misrepresentation up there has the cojones to speak stereotypically of how the "average" black male is below them.

And then you have people actually entertaining these discussions :mindblown:

Oh, I wasn't discussing the average and I agree that this, like most of our representation in white media, is obviously skewed to fit a certain narrative.

I jumped in to better explain @Yup stance because she was speaking in regards to a particular situation (Black women who are financially successful and their problems with dating life) because I understood her point.

Most women, black or otherwise, aren't content with bringing a larger chunk of money but being told to handle all the domestic duties because those are duties usually reserved for the less competent provider. She was saying that if women changed their standards to account for good black men who might make less than them, good black men should be willing to meet them halfway and change their standards for how the domestic duties are handled to account for good black women who make more than them.
 

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this is why black women continue to remain single, a man even making 30k a year 5 years from now will not be making 30k, same as in ten

base everything on $$ brehettes

the barren fingers, empty beds and cobweb wombs brigade

Remind me again who you go home to at night?
 

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in all honesty if black women want to dig their own graves then go right ahead
at my old job there was a black dude working in the mail room prob making like 16 a hour, he was married to a black woman and they had 3 kids. Dude works hard and is faithful and loves his family.

to you barren fingers, empty beds brigade that may be scust, but who is winning and who is losing?

Chances are she was making the same or less than him.
There's nothing wrong with a woman wanting a man on her level, black women are the only women who are told to settle for less.
You don't hear Asian fathers telling their daughters to stick with the man making less than her because he may be a great doctor one day. If she is a doctor he wants her with a doctor or similar. If she is working in the corner store he wants her with a man working at the corner store across the street.

I was under the impression that this conversation was typically dealing with the problems that more financially successful black women have with dating black men.

Middle class to lower middle class black people (And everything lower) have no problem finding black partners. Most black people marry other black people.

Exactly this is not an issue that affects most black women because most black women are not in high earning positions. This is almost a non-issue because the average black woman will wind up with the average black man.


Yeah it's pretty sad. Then get mad when black men date out of race. It's insanity.

Breh what does this convo have to do with black men dating out. Why don't you skate with your subtle anti-black women rhetoric :camby:Always making slick comments.
 

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Some black women acting like black women out earn black men.

Average black male makes $667 a week, average black woman makes $602 a week.

:skip:

black women online act like every black woman has a degree and a great job

while every black man is doing nothing with his life
 
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