The NBA Is Dying

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No quick twitch, no special handle,no dunks no flair his game is just vanilla.

Even Tatum who other nikkas think is boring will go on a flash run of difficult shots/dunks every once in a while.
He's so fluid and smooth though. He plays exactly like dudes in here say they want to see
 

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you really have the apex of multiple facets of what would make a bad product all culminating at the same time
- on court analytics dictating if you cant get a layup/dunk... go jack up a 3
- shameless attempts at mirroring the euro soccer leagues with ads on jerseys,those t shirt jerseys, the NBA Cup, etc.
- lack of competition to the point where they're friendly on court
- positionless basketball
- increasing rate of players not having any type of developed skillset, just vibing on the court
- lack of regular TV games + paywalling small markets



 

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Like I said in another thread nostalgia is something else. They used to trash this era too in real time. Complaints were loud.... too much iso ball, league was "too black", not enough shooting, not enough scoring, etc.... Ratings were historically bad just like now.
Yeah old white men that didn't like braids & crossovers
 
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Just my humble opinion.

Silver is diluting the product by trying to use influencers to bring in more eyeballs, instead of using actual players. There's a lot of new dynamic young cats in the league, that most of America wouldn't recognize if they walked down the street. Focus on marketing your young stars and focus on building up team rivalries again.


Look at how many eyeballs Tyson and Jake Paul generated. So many people watched in hopes that they would see flashes of that young ferocious Tyson.


People still long for old school competition. Bring that back, market that. I'm not saying let's go back to the day of 80-79 scores, but let's have a healthy balance of physicality as well as marketing these new players. The story telling aspect of what made the NBA so great is now missing.
I'm not entirely sure how your reference of Jake Paul makes sense when he's an influencer. I mean, boxing has literally been used as a vehicle by social media influencers to make money, after the sport had one foot in the grave.

I certainly wouldn't be using an influencer vs. a near 60-year-old boxer as an example of upholding the purity of a sport. But I digress.

What players do you think aren't being marketed properly? A certain portion of America doesn't recognize or identify with the stars of the league, largely because they're foreign, and really no amount of marketing is going to get that demographic of this country to follow them. They either follow them from start or when they rise into being a star -- or they never will.

By that nature, it would seem counterproductive to herald lesser players over the true superstars because they're more identifiable to a certain group, because folks would soon lose interest if they couldn't compete with 'the best of the best'. NBA fandom is global now, so it can't really cater to an American audience the same as it did in the past. The NBA has done their best to market Ant, but playing in Minnesota and not showing himself to be a true megastar has got him fighting an uphill battle. Unless he meets the threshold of becoming a MJ/Kobe-level player, he's not going to get any bigger than he is now, regardless of what the NBA does to promote him.

In regards to the story telling aspect - I don't think it's missing, I just think since the NBA has become a 24/7 medium, the same allurement doesn't exist because we know everything about it. We know how players think, feel, act etc at all times, so that whole mystery element is no longer present. Parlay that with the fact that there are infinite channels of entertainment now, where stories in the NBA can't compare to other forms of entertainment.

You believe in a storyline because it gives you a reason to believe it's real. You can't really do that in sport anymore. In similar fashion to wrestling, once that kayfabe is broken, the stories just aren't the same.
 

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A lot of it is likely due to he money and if you cut into that, the CAC owners will be pocketing the difference right. I think declining revenue is when players would really put an effort instead of being happy with just being good enough.

The three point thing is cool when you have prime Curry and Klay knocking them out at a high rate but when you have average shooters just jacking up threes, it's trash.
 
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That's ultimately the difference between the discourse that takes place about the NFL and NBA.

Over time, it's become generally accepted to shyt on the NBA because that's what the media encourages, whereas the media almost treats shytting on the NFL as being blasphemous. A lot of that is steeped in the fact that the NFL has always been seen as an American pastime, as part of this country's fabric (how we see ourselves), whereas NBA has always been a sidepiece, who only gets attention when it's convenient. Otherwise, it's just that hoe over there.
 
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It's become stylistically GARBAGE.

Only 6 hoopers can get you off your seat.

Everything is else is just 3 point chucking :scust:
The NBA has always been that.

A handful of superstars who stand above the rest, against the backdrop of a copycat league. Every single era.
 

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That's ultimately the difference between the discourse that takes place about the NFL and NBA.

Over time, it's become generally accepted to shyt on the NBA because that's what the media encourages, whereas the media almost treats shytting on the NFL as being blasphemous. A lot of that is steeped in the fact that the NFL has always been seen as an American pastime, as part of this country's fabric (how we see ourselves), whereas NBA has always been a sidepiece, who only gets attention when it's convenient. Otherwise, it's just that hoe over there.
Just look at how the nba media treats small markets, that would never ever never happen in the NFL. NFL would damn near pull their broadcast relationships
 

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The leagues are not comparable though. NFL players have to put 100 percent effort all the time. Also NFL defenses adjust...at one point QBs would easily be able to throw 5000 and it was starting to ruin the game until defenses caught up.

The nba wanted to be high scoring, less physical, three point bombing and it has ruin the game completely.
 
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