Not nearly as entertaining as the non-superstars in the 2000s. As far as playing style mostly but also personality.
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Not nearly as entertaining as the non-superstars in the 2000s. As far as playing style mostly but also personality.
Except you know that's just your opinion.
It's not a fact.
Entertainment is subjective.
Uh no it’s a large portion on NBA fans opinions. People weren’t calling the game boring in large numbers back then.
you serious? Because of Inside The NBA breh. It's the most interesting thing in basketball and has been for years
I haven't watched an NBA game since 2018 and even I still watch inside the NBA clips. I'm not the only person that does this. It's a GOAT show
No it's not.
The huge flaw in your argument is that Generation Z make up a considerable amount of NBA fans and they didn't even watch that era. Futhermore, there were a whole generation(s) of fans who grew up on 70s and 80s hoops, who would've undoubtedly found the early 2000s to be boring, because it was a huge deviation from what they grew up with.
Imagine being someone whose childhood ran parrallel to the fast pace of the 70s/80s, and then watching the slow-paced, offense-anemia early 2000s.
The ratings had declined rapidly post-MJ's retirement, back when you know, TV ratings were one of the most accurate measurements of popularity, so yes, it's quite obvious people did find it boring (or not as appealing) once MJ retired.
"The retirement of Michael Jordan set in motion the decline in NBA ratings which continues today. Ratings for the 1999 NBA Finals (which in fairness, came after a lockout shortened season) were down significantly from the previous year, from an 18.7 to an 11.3. Primetime regular season games, which had become fairly routine (and highly-rated) during the Jordan years, set record lows for NBC once Jordan retired. With the rise of the Los Angeles Lakers in the early part of the 2000s, ratings improved, but never to the level of the 80’s or the 90’s."
We also get into the murky waters of social media not being around like that in the early 2000s, so you can't possibly make an assertion that people weren't calling the game boring in large numbers.
You mentioned it as a reason but it's the reasonOf course I know people love the show, why do you think I even brought it up as a possible reason for why TNT’s ratings haven’t dropped as much if I didn’t realize that
I’m not talking about Gen Z or internet rhetoric. I’m talking about more everyday fans I interact with IRL who watched the games 20 years ago becoming less interested now. Did you interact with fans in the early 2000s? Older fans who watched the game in the 70s and 80s weren’t calling the game boring. The main thing older generations were complaining about (if they were complaining at all) was Hip Hop’s growing influence on the game. Hence the dress codes.
And the post-MJ drop doesn’t suggest people found the game boring since he was considered a once-in-a-lifetime player and attracted tons of casual viewers.
Do you have some type of factual proof that the sole reason that TNT’s ratings haven’t declined like ESPN’s is strictly because of Inside the NBA?
If not, then it’s just a theory. Which is why I listed it as a reason, not the reason
Also for what it’s worth you don’t even have to watch the games to watch Inside. They post everything on YouTube and their social media pages
You do realize that the NBA has the youngest fanbase out of all the four major sports, right? In fact, it has the youngest fanbase out of every main sport in the world.
Okay, so you're talking about all of 5 people you know and therefore you concluded that is reflective of the majority?
In the modern era it has (since the 60s/70s, which is more than half a century), which is all the more relevant here because it has shaped and is more reflective of this country as it stands now than baseball is (despite the latter having a more storied history).
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Power is in my hair nikka
Imagine if the NFL went 2 years without ever airing a ROY Pro Bowler QB on a nationally televised game.
While i don't see anything wrong with smaller market teams having their games televised on regional cable networks, i should easily be able to turn on FOX,CBS,ABC or NBC on a random night and see a basketball game.
While i don't see anything wrong with smaller market teams having their games televised on regional cable networks, i should easily be able to turn on FOX,CBS,ABC or NBC on a random night and see a basketball game.
"You can find stuff every single night that's exciting & thrilling if you want to" - then later says "it's not necessarily the media's job", except it sort of is. That's part of these billion dollar contracts getting signed, promote best match ups and show the league in the best light
The part left out completely, it isn't the fans job to look through 12 games every night and find the best ones. They've already worked their real jobs, now you want them to work looking through bullshyt to find whatever he's talking about, basically doing the league's job for them. Then people wonder why the NFL deeboed Christmas & MLK from these nikkas
The truth is on top of a bunch of other shyt, the NBA can't manufacture stars & rivalries like it used to. It can't cut through the noise like MLB can with Ohtani or even WNBA with Clark, they don't have that one person anymore that can get people in and trickle down from there. The players control as much as they can on the court, that machine's just not working like it used to. Shai, Tatum, Ant, even the #1 generational pick, none of them matter. Nobody cares. That highlights a major difference between the NBA & NFL's business models, some brought it up a bit. The NFL has strict rules about how you're going to talk about the sport and if you don't fall in line ask Bill Simmons what happens. NBA's embraced "all content is good", including talking shyt on half the teams and media wishing everybody was in the big markets. They've done a better job making stars out of simpleton negroes like Kendrick Perkins and other bottom feeders covering the shyt than guys playing today
All that not including every team playing the same, whether they've got totally different pieces or not. Even the NFL's leveled out some after they pushed offense heavy and just about every team looked the same. Today you've got a lot more variety, teams playing how they should with personnel & schemes that match, Ravens for example. Bills play different than the Chiefs etc even though you can expect 60 yd bombs there's enough difference. The NBA is still trying to replicate mid-late 2010s Warriors cookie cutter template across all 30 teams, 7'1 nikkas are trying to be Steph.
The product is awful and they move like they don't know where they're going and don't fully have a handle on the product. There's multiple things going on at once and I don't know how you fix it. Even the MLB looks more aware bringing in things like the pitcher's clock to speed up the game, that's been a major effect on their bottom line & interest in the sport
He said it's not journalists job which it is not, it however is the national medias job who the nba employees to do their job. Journalists shouldn't be the one's pointing out the game's , it should be espn tnt etc
