The NBA Is Dying

[MooseMouthMthafuga]

You not a kid anymore. Also…

Yeah I didn't really fukk with the NBA from about '99 to '04.That '05 Nash, Amare, Matrix, Q Rich, ISO Joe squad reeled me back in.

I don't think the league will ever recapture that feeling.The Bird/Magic/MJ era will go down as the most special time in the sport.Social media took away the fantasy.Every Joe Blow has a platform to burst bubbles & slander the product.It's more challenging to get over 50 million people discrediting you at every turn.A random mthafkka can make a video explaining why LeBron James isn't Michael Jordan.Something Jordan never had to worry about back in the day.His branding went unopposed.Imagine Bron in that era!? He's a megastar now, but in that era, he'd have more of a magical mystique.He'd probably be up there on the Mt Rushmore of athletes with Ruth, Ali, Jordan.Unfortunately, negative outweighs the positive at present.The Jordan era was the apex.From the stars, to the narratives, to the marketing..Everything seemed to have aligned perfectly.The modern fan will never understand that magical feeling.

Not just sports.Any genre.This is why no rapper will reach the damn near messianic level of a Tupac, Ali, Marley.Social media burst that bubble.You can't manufacture that element.Now the older fans are disenchanted.The modern fan is quick to tell you "It's just nostalgia clouding your judgement" but it's not nostalgia.Shyt just legit felt more magical back then.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

Yeah I didn't really fukk with the NBA from about '99 to '04.That '05 Nash, Amare, Matrix, Q Rich, ISO Joe squad reeled me back in.

I don't think the league will ever recapture that feeling.The Bird/Magic/MJ era will go down as the most special time in the sport.Social media took away the fantasy.Every Joe Blow has a platform to burst bubbles & slander the product.It's more challenging to get over 50 million people discrediting you at every turn.A random mthafkka can make a video explaining why LeBron James isn't Michael Jordan.Something Jordan never had to worry about back in the day.His branding went unopposed.Imagine Bron in that era!? He's a megastar now, but in that era, he'd have more of a magical mystique.He'd probably be up there on the Mt Rushmore of athletes with Ruth, Ali, Jordan.Unfortunately, negative outweighs the positive at present.The Jordan era was the apex.From the stars, to the narratives, to the marketing..Everything seemed to have aligned perfectly.The modern fan will never understand that magical feeling.

Not just sports.Any genre.This is why no rapper will reach the damn near messianic level of a Tupac, Ali, Marley.Social media burst that bubble.You can't manufacture that element.Now the older fans are disenchanted.The modern fan is quick to tell you "It's just nostalgia clouding your judgement" but it's not nostalgia.Shyt just legit felt more magical back then.

Of course, because everything is more magical during your childhood.

Just like you believe no rapper will reach 2pac's divine reveredness, you have an entire young generation who never grew up on him and instead grew up on someone like Kendrick, whose malleable minds will hold him in that light that you do 'Pac.

You're not wrong in that peeking behind the curtain has removed a lot of that allurement that things once upon had, but I don't think that's ever been in question. The argument that folks use about nostalgia clouding judgment is that they think that players and/or the game were better. By that very nature, I think folks would be better served to seperate their affinity for a player/era and what is better.

Just because you like a player more doesn't mean they're better.

That's how I see it, anyway.

 

[MegaTronBomb!]

They should bring in the popular YouTube dunkers honestly and give em a lil bag to compete… They don’t even have to have nba dudes in it

i remember we had proposed something similar ( NBA vs. And 1/Team Flight Bros.) before they started making all the ridiculous changes ( pre- Blake Griffin WWE scripted contest) ....and coli dudes were talking about how the risk of injury was too high for it.

the fact that your top star dunkers simply just don't compete in it makes people just not want to tune in. Like imagine if Steph just didn't compete in the 3 point contest.

 

[tremonthustler1]

They need to move the season. It shouldn’t overlap with the NFL….AT ALL. Start the season in January and end it in July.

those hopes and dreams died with the bubble.

and if the NBA has such a phobia of football, they're gonna have a major phobia of the outdoors because that's what you want them to compete against,


The fact of the matter is this: the NBA DOES have a moment where it's front and center and it shines. The problem is the regular season isn't part of that timeline.

 

[tremonthustler1]

Imagine if the NFL went 2 years without ever airing a ROY Pro Bowler QB on a nationally televised game.

While i don't see anything wrong with smaller market teams having their games televised on regional cable networks, i should easily be able to turn on FOX,CBS,ABC or NBC on a random night and see a basketball game.

That's not happening and it's not gonna happen because those networks don't rely on sports for their ad revenue. They rely on actual television shows to do that. It's why FS1 exists and why ABC linked up with ESPN and why these games are gonna wind up on streaming services for the most part.

 

[tremonthustler1]

the fact that your top star dunkers simply just don't compete in it makes people just not want to tune in. Like imagine if Steph just didn't compete in the 3 point contest.

The top dunkers are not always the most creative dunkers. The style of dunks we love to watch now are different. We wanna see dudes catch bodies instead of flippy shyt,

 

[FakeNews]

 

[Soldier]

Atleast for me, the reason I rarely watch NBA games is because there is no parity anymore. It’s been Lebron James in the finals for like a decade. That shyt gets old. And everyone knew the Warriors were going to win once they got KD. Just like this season, there is a 95% chance they repeat. NFL is completely random you don’t even know if your squad will make the playoffs half the time.

Once these super teams break up, i think the NBA will pick up for me again

Its not dying, its practically dead. Interest in the NBA dropped during Covid and never recovered.

The NBA needs a true super team again. Not this Durant shyt. The Heatles and Super Warriors eras were the golden age of the modern NBA as far as viewership. The NBA needs a couple stars to team up with a big draw, preferably Bron or Steph before they get TOO old. Thats probably the only thing that can reignite interest in casual fans.

Well it’s football season and it’s hard to justify giving a shyt about meaningless NBA games right now.

Plus all the real stan-able stars are old as hell and there are no story lines anymore.

Low key the league needs to encourage super teams.

yeah I agree

Dynasties/Super teams create heroes/villains, storylines, and most importantly STARS. Parity works in the NFL/MLB because its a team driven sports. The players matter to a certain extent...but the team as a collective and their fandom are what really drive everything.

The NBA is almost entirely star driven. Parity is great until you end up with a Thunder vs Cavs final that nobody watches because there are no true stars involved that will draw casuals. But this is what the NBA wanted....the new CBA pretty much pushed it in this direction.

@Gil Scott-Heroin
@FTBS
@Remote

 

[Soldier]

 

[DoubleClutch]

It’s almost like “the nba is dying”/“what’s wrong with the nba” story is keeping the NBA relevant now.

Now everyone is focused on how to “fix” it

Does us watching games really matter if we’re still talking about it daily and analyzing why ratings are down?

“Anti NBA” is the new storyline

 

[ReturnOfJudah]

 

[fifth column]

Sports is a copycat industry…if something works and can be duplicated, it will be.

Steph play style is a lot easier to replicate than Bron.

Also shooting 3s gives teams the easier path to victory.

I watched Nuggets/Cavs last week, and Denver did well battling the Cavs throughout the game but lost the 3pt battle and that was that. Denver had more rebounds, 30 more points in the paint and one overall less basket made than the Cavs (46 to the Cavs’ 47). Cleveland hit 22 3s and Denver hit 6…matter of fact Cavs hit almost as many 3s as Denver took. Cavs really started pulling away when Joker sat and they hit a bunch of 3s to start the 4th to bury them.

So unless you got a Joker level talent on your team to get you efficient 2s…you gotta battle 3s with 3s

And while teams have all rights to have a 3 point contest every night, the fans also have a right to say the product is trash if they gonna keep jacking 3s with little entertainment value.

 

[tremonthustler1]

And while teams have all rights to have a 3 point contest every night, the fans also have a right to say the product is trash if they gonna keep jacking 3s with little entertainment value.

NBA fans are only entertained with high degree of difficulty shots being made at an abnormally high clip

 

[fifth column]

NBA fans are only entertained with high degree of difficulty shots being made at an abnormally high clip

NBA fans are entertained by real competition, that’s the real issue why fans are saying the league is dying.

What’s the sense of being more skilled if the players are not giving their all on the court. Jacking up all those 3s is just lazy offense and switching everything is just lazy defense. The NBA is just lack luster these days, they just doing enough to get revenue.

 

[knickscrusaderm]

NBA fans are entertained by real competition, that’s the real issue why fans are saying the league is dying.

What’s the sense of being more skilled if the players are not giving their all on the court. Jacking up all those 3s is just lazy offense and switching everything is just lazy defense. The NBA is just lack luster these days, they just doing enough to get revenue.

Real competition like a new NBA champ every year? Real competition like an 8th seed making the finals? Real competition like the Western conference bloodbath every year? Real competition like the play-in that encourages winning over tanking?

You dudes are a fukking joke lol. This dude said switching everything is lazy defense