The most important assassination of the 20th century - Patrice Lumumba

[Kritic]

obama care is not dictatorial, obamacare was passed by congress, if you have a problem with it, vote for people that will get rid of it and speak freely about your objections to convince your fellow countrymen that its bad

do you feel any fear as your type words of hate toward young hussein? no you dont, so stop trying to equate him to a dictator, its blatantly false

libya was a dictatorship, and it s about individual freedom, we just disagree on that, i dont really see any point in exchanging speeches

the key to developing africa is promoting individual freedom and economic freedom and promoting capitalism and education, people like ghadafi arent part of that vision, him and his ilk belong to an era that is coming to an end thanks to obama

i ain no punk but you know you all are punktified by the nsa. i know they'll send a negro like yourself to come get me and you'll be received with 3 rifles and you'll bounce back doing exactly 37 backflips.



a quick search on the most educated countries in africa have sanctions against them or are unstable. would you happen to guess why libya, zimbabwe, egypt, sudan etc... have been thrown back to the stone age?

 

[theworldismine13]

But if you are taxing the "owners", isn't it essentially your resource because if they actually owned it, they wouldn't have to pay you anything.

Taking it a step further, wouldn't you generate more income selling the resource than taxing it?

take for example BP. BP stands for British petroleum, yet BP is drilling oil in the US, do you hear americans crying about the british are stealing our oil? no, because the us government makes sure BP pays its taxes
and follows worker laws and environmental laws, if they fuk up they get sued and fined, that is the way its suppose to work

i dont want the us government selling oil for example, unless its a separate government entity that the government doesnt really control

do you want to give the government even more power, do you trust the us government to use oil revenues properly, do you want obama, chris christis, george bush and mitt romney controlling the oil and the NSA (which is what libya was under ghadaffi)? i think its better to have a division of power and money and not concentrate power in the central government

secondly to exploit natural resources you need to invest large amounts of money, where does the money come from to invest in resources? what is the point of owning resources when you dont have the money to exploit it?

 

[theworldismine13]

i ain no punk but you know you all are punktified by the nsa. i know they'll send a negro like yourself to come get me and you'll be received with 3 rifles and you'll bounce back doing exactly 37 backflips.



a quick search on the most educated countries in africa have sanctions against them or are unstable. would you happen to guess why libya, zimbabwe, egypt, sudan etc... have been thrown back to the stone age?

yeah because in libya, zimbabwe, egypt and sudan there is little individual freedom and little economic freedom

 

[Kritic]

having educated government workers and a straight forward and effective tax regime is the key, its irrelevant who actually owns it, what is important is taxing the entity that owns it effectively

but getting educated tax collectors doesnt sound as sexy and dramatic so people dont really want to talk about it

everytime a visionary comes up in africa your cacs meddle in their politics and back their puppet. they killed patrice. they were behind the killing of robert ouko.

 

[Kritic]

yeah because in libya, zimbabwe, egypt and sudan there is little individual freedom and little economic freedom

now you're just making shiit up

 

[theworldismine13]

everytime a visionary comes up in africa your cacs meddle in their politics and back their puppet. they killed patrice. they were behind the killing of robert ouko.

shyt happens

but black people dont need a leader, we need a culture that promotes individual freedom and economic freedom, if we create that culture multiple leaders will arise, not just one

 

[theworldismine13]

now you're just making shiit up

how am i making shyt up, there is little economic and individual freedom in zimbabwe

 

[Kritic]

shyt happens

but black people dont need a leader, we need a culture that promotes individual freedom and economic freedom, if we create that culture multiple leaders will arise, not just one

tell me more

 

[Kritic]

how am i making shyt up, there is little economic and individual freedom in zimbabwe

and barack extending sanctions on them after they run out under bush helped their "economic freedom"?

 

[theworldismine13]

and barack extending sanctions on them after they run out under bush helped their "economic freedom"?

what do OUTSIDE sanctions have to do with economic freedom and individual freedom INSIDE the country?

 

[dc007]

take for example BP. BP stands for British petroleum, yet BP is drilling oil in the US, do you hear americans crying about the british are stealing our oil? no, because the us government makes sure BP pays its taxes
and follows worker laws and environmental laws, if they fuk up they get sued and fined, that is the way its suppose to work

i dont want the us government selling oil for example, unless its a separate government entity that the government doesnt really control

do you want to give the government even more power, do you trust the us government to use oil revenues properly, do you want obama, chris christis, george bush and mitt romney controlling the oil and the NSA (which is what libya was under ghadaffi)? i think its better to have a division of power and money and not concentrate power in the central government

secondly to exploit natural resources you need to invest large amounts of money, where does the money come from to invest in resources? what is the point of owning resources when you dont have the money to exploit it?

The US gov't doesn't sell Oil....but there are US companies that drill for it I believe.

African governments do not have to sell the resources per say, there can be separation. But the separation does not have to be a foreign entity coming in and not helping the local economy. You could either have a totally independent African company doing everything, or a foreign one coming in and having a certain percentage of that company being owned by locals.

 

[Kritic]

what do OUTSIDE sanctions have to do with economic freedom and individual freedom INSIDE the country?

everything.

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not only is that happening in africa. it's happening here too on black ppl. they're doing exactly the opposite of the that stuff you keep repeating about economic freedom, eduction etc...

 

[theworldismine13]

tell me more

sure

the thing you have to understand is that it wasnt so much the lumumba was killed, its that the leadership pool in african countries is very thin, that is a problem that needs to be addressed

that is why people like ghadaffi and mugabe are dangerous to the future of africa, they stop the development of a wide pool of leaders by suffocating their own population

 

[theworldismine13]

everything.

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not only is that happening in africa. it's happening here too on black ppl. they're doing exactly the opposite of the that stuff you keep repeating about economic freedom, eduction etc...

it has nothing to do with it, mugabe was never committed to individual freedom and economic freedom before the sanctions, so what do the sanctions have to do with it?

mugabe was committed to fighting colonialism, which is honorable but he lost his way and he should and will be removed eventually so that new leaders can emerge

 

[theworldismine13]

The US gov't doesn't sell Oil....but there are US companies that drill for it I believe.

African governments do not have to sell the resources per say, there can be separation. But the separation does not have to be a foreign entity coming in and not helping the local economy. You could either have a totally independent African company doing everything, or a foreign one coming in and having a certain percentage of that company being owned by locals.

whats your point? i think you are just saying what i just said, that it doesnt matter who owns the resources, there are many different ways to organize resources, and many different examples, there are good examples like norway and there are bad examples like mexico and Venezuela