The most important assassination of the 20th century - Patrice Lumumba

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You really believe this?:cachaha:. Dude Libya was a chief exporter of petroleum and that's the only reason the US gave a fukk. It's not like the US is interested in the atrocities committed in the resource poor areas of sub Saharan Africa. The new conflict now is securing oil reserves against the Chinese. That's the new Cold War breh, only this time we got beef with people we owe a lot of money too.

Yeah I do, if you look across africa is very obvious the era of the African dictator is over

Let's say that the only reason why the us took out ghadaffi was becuase of oil, I would still approve of the operation, just for the fact that it got rid of another African dictator
 

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and there you have it, you are making geo political opinions based on swag, just the fact that you feel good about being embraced by a non black person and that you along with the clowns in the picture think they are moving up in the world is c00nish to the nth degree

but anyways i make geopolitical opinions based in individual freedom, and under that obama getting rid if the bummy as dictator was one of the best things he ever did, i respect lumumba but he was not the most important assassination of the 20th century, that is just hyperbole
you should take a look at the thread on Ghadaffi. Wasn't about swag or acceptance. ......

You main point is that Western Imperialism is the key for black people in African and America. We clearly see that western imperialism has been horrible for Africa and black people. The only thing that's good for Africa is trying to control their own resources without Asian or Western intervention.
 

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Yeah I do, if you look across africa is very obvious the era of the African dictator is over

Let's say that the only reason why the us took out ghadaffi was becuase of oil, I would still approve of the operation, just for the fact that it got rid of another African dictator

But yet it was ok for someone like Pinochet to be dictator because he had capitalist views, right? There's more Koolaid in the back room to quench your thirst breh.
 

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you should take a look at the thread on Ghadaffi. Wasn't about swag or acceptance. ......

You main point is that Western Imperialism is the key for black people in African and America. We clearly see that western imperialism has been horrible for Africa and black people. The only thing that's good for Africa is trying to control their own resources without Asian or Western intervention.

my main point is that individual freedom and economic freedom is the key to success

and as far as developing africa, resources are not relevant, thinking that resources is the key is the first step toward doom
 

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when did i say it was ok for pinochet to be a dictator?


You never did. I was just pointing out a region that had a leader overthrown in the name of democracy, only to have a puppet in place.

Speaking of which, can you actually name a place where the US successfully installed democracy, to instill what you call individual freedom and economic freedom? I just can't seem to think of any :pachaha:
 

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You never did. I was just pointing out a region that had a leader overthrown in the name of democracy, only to have a puppet in place.

Speaking of which, can you actually name a place where the US successfully installed democracy, to instill what you call individual freedom and economic freedom? I just can't seem to think of any :pachaha:

yeah exactly i never did say i approved of pinochet so you arent saying anything

except for cuba, the entire western hemisphere is democratic, europe is democratic, japan, korea and taiwan are democratic and most of africa is democratic

in other words the world is moving on and you are stuck in some time warp from the 1960s which explains why you are defending an old decrepit arab dictator
 
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yeah exactly i never did say i approved of pinochet so you arent saying anything

except for cuba, the entire western hemisphere is democratic, europe is democratic, japan, korea and taiwan are democratic and most of africa is democratic

in other words the world is moving on and you are stuck in some time warp from the 1960s which explains why you are defending an old decrepit arab dictator
i don't insult anyone. but looks like that nicca is your daddy or something cause anything i say against him you take it as an insult. i'm just pointing out the truth. speaking of dictator why is he shoving obamacare down ppl's throat. no one wants that garbage. quit defending a dictator. we can play pingpong all day with the word dictator.
libya was doing very well compared to most countries a "dictator" wasn't their problem. they didn't need to be saved from anyone. none of those countries need saving. libya, egypt, iraq, syria, iran etc.. none of them need saving. the biggest threat to world peace is led by your daddy and instead of him stopping it or slowing it down, it's actually on steroids. he has you brainwashed that it's about individual rights and the other garbage you keep repeating hoping that one day it'll make sense but it won't. you're a grown ass man stop lying to yourself. you're looking like a religious follower trying to brainwash yourself with sh1t that just doesn't make sense. your not even gonna be a beneficiary of the end game.
 
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i don't insult anyone. but looks like that nicca is your daddy or something cause anything i say against him you take it as an insult. i'm just pointing out the truth. speaking of dictator why is he shoving obamacare down ppl's throat. no one wants that garbage. quit defending a dictator. we can play pingpong all day with the word dictator.
libya was doing very well compared to most countries a "dictator" wasn't their problem. they didn't need to be saved from anyone. none of those countries need saving. libya, egypt, iraq, syria, iran etc.. none of them need saving. the biggest threat to world peace is led by your daddy and instead of him stopping it or slowing it down, it's actually on steroids. he has you brainwashed that it's about individual rights and the other garbage you keep repeating hoping that one day it'll make sense but it won't. you're a grown ass man stop lying to yourself. you're looking like a religious follower trying to brainwash yourself with sh1t that just doesn't make sense. your not even gonna be a beneficiary of the end game.

obama care is not dictatorial, obamacare was passed by congress, if you have a problem with it, vote for people that will get rid of it and speak freely about your objections to convince your fellow countrymen that its bad

do you feel any fear as your type words of hate toward young hussein? no you dont, so stop trying to equate him to a dictator, its blatantly false

libya was a dictatorship, and it s about individual freedom, we just disagree on that, i dont really see any point in exchanging speeches

the key to developing africa is promoting individual freedom and economic freedom and promoting capitalism and education, people like ghadafi arent part of that vision, him and his ilk belong to an era that is coming to an end thanks to obama
 

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my main point is that individual freedom and economic freedom is the key to success

and as far as developing africa, resources are not relevant, thinking that resources is the key is the first step toward doom

If controlling your resources isn't key, than what is?
 

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If controlling your resources isn't key, than what is?

having educated government workers and a straight forward and effective tax regime is the key, its irrelevant who actually owns it, what is important is taxing the entity that owns it effectively

but getting educated tax collectors doesnt sound as sexy and dramatic so people dont really want to talk about it
 

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one thing people need to under stand is that africa will never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever get rich from its resources, the only real money to be made is by using resources to create finished goods

an economic plan that is based on resources is an awful economic plan
 

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having educated government workers and a straight forward and effective tax regime is the key, its irrelevant who actually owns it, what is important is taxing the entity that owns it effectively

but getting educated tax collectors doesnt sound as sexy and dramatic so people dont really want to talk about it

But if you are taxing the "owners", isn't it essentially your resource because if they actually owned it, they wouldn't have to pay you anything.

Taking it a step further, wouldn't you generate more income selling the resource than taxing it?
 
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